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    Post  sepheronx Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:21 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:The head of red cross in moscow is saying the humantarian convoys from Russia to Donestsk is an invasion. In what is all holly, is wrong with these retards?
    You forgot to post the article, here you go.
    http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/769882

    And as for my thoughts, this guy's finances needs to be thoroughly investigated and/or relieved from his position for mental illness/disorder.

    Agreed. And I bet that is what will happen - an investigation. Clearly something is wrong with him or that would mean all red cross missions around the globe would be an invasion. I would also ask him for physical evidence of paramilitary being sent. Sounds like a real nutcase.
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    Post  Regular Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:07 pm

    So yeah it's better not to do anything. God bless such invasion
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    Post  arpakola Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:32 pm

    HAPPY 2015 TO UKRAINE...
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    Post  mack8 Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:08 pm

    The head of red cross in moscow is saying the humantarian convoys from Russia to Donestsk is an invasion. In what is all holly, is wrong with these retards?

    Just another agent in US service. Doesn't Putin needs some uranium or gold or something dug out from say Kolyma? He should gather all the agents, fifth columnists and traitors and have them "visit" the welcoming Siberia, for like the rest of their  lives. (they would actually earn an honest living for the first time anyway while there) Rolling Eyes
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:11 pm

    http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/12/30/2180

    Looky here. Former blackwater to train Ukrainian military in urban combat. Criminals supporting criminals. How nice.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:20 pm

    i just read it on RT: Nuclear leak in Ukraine Nuclear reactor - 17 times above normal. according to an leaked report of Ukraine's interior ministry.


    http://rt.com/news/218807-ukraine-nuclear-plant-leak/
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:31 pm

    There is talk of failures at Ukraine NPP using US nuclear fuel rods, maybe that is where a leak is happening. Same thing happened in ib the Cezch republic before. They ended up buying fuel rods from Russia again afterwards. Ukraine though is dumb enough that they will buy more us fuel rods, that are not compatible with soviet reactors.
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    Post  mack8 Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:59 pm

    The unnerving thing is, wasn't there some allegations circulating recently about a false flag nuclear incident of sorts to be blamed on Russia?
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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:34 pm

    i remember too that an while back that the international atomic energy and Russia warned against using them in the Ukraine reactors, that they where incompatible with them.

    and i cant see them blaming this one on Russia, and the Ukraine government replying now with "no, everythings fine". is more like them actually thinking "we have a major f***ing problem by using those U.S fuel rods!".

    i read the reactor had already malfunctions last week. the ones that Yatsenjuk reported to the kabinet, but he said "everything is under control". and now the radiation is increasing... they might be in deeper shit than we may know.

    one of the warnings sepheronx reffered to:

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nuclear-industry-veterans-american-fuel-at-soviet-nuclear-power-plants-could-cause-second-chernobyl-256697511.html


    MOSCOW, April 25, 2014 /PRNewswire/ --


    International Union of Veterans of Nuclear Energy and Industry (IUVNEI) issued the following statement on Friday:

    "Nuclear fuel produced by the US firm Westinghouse does not meet the technical requirements of Soviet-era reactors, and using it could cause an accident on the scale of the Chernobyl disaster, which took place on the 26th April 1986.


    A decision by the Ukrainian nuclear regulator and government to use Westinghouse fuel, or TVS-W, at Ukrainian nuclear power stations would be irresponsible in the extreme.

    Two years ago, there was a near-miss in the Ukraine, when TVS-W with damaged distancing armatures risked substantial uncontrolled releases of dangerous radiation. Only by a miracle was there no disaster at the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant.

    As we remember those who died in Chernobyl, we should not forget that that tragedy took place because of a similarly irresponsible experiment with a live operating reactor, pushed beyond its design limits. No one, whatever their political view of Ukraine, should risk letting that happen again."

    Note for editors:

    International Union of Veterans of Nuclear Energy and Industry (IUVNEI) brings together more than 15,000 nuclear industry veterans from Armenia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Finland, the Czech Republic, Russia, Slovakia and Ukraine. It was founded in 2010 and headquartered in Moscow.

    SOURCE International Union of Veterans of Nuclear Energy and Industry (IUVNEI)
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    Post  etaepsilonk Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:46 pm

    My uneducated guess would be those fuel rods would have different reaction properties when subject to neutron rays, and therefore, become more unstable with power fluctuations, thus putting more stress on piping, turbines and so on.

    I'd discount chernobyl type accident though. That was a runaway reaction, since loss of coolant increased reactor power. With reactor type found in plants like zaporozhia, it's the exact opposite: loss of coolant causes nuclear reaction to slow down. As a result, steam explosion (and scattering of fuel rods all other the place) becomes almost impossible, if at all.

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    sepheronx wrote:Looky here. Former blackwater to train Ukrainian military in urban combat. Criminals supporting criminals. How nice.

    Well, that's kinda old news. Mercenaries are known to operate in ukraine since spring.
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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:44 pm

    Actually Chernobyl was the result of a criminal experiment.  They disabled the safety systems to run a test if they could generate more
    power when reactor was in shut-down mode.   I don't understand why the clowns involved were not all shot.

    http://atomicinsights.com/accident-at-chernobyl-caused-explosion/

    I would not call what happened at Chernobyl an accident.  It was an incident which was clearly the result of negligence.  In Russian
    the term is "halatnost".
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:23 am

    kvs wrote:
    I would not call what happened at Chernobyl an accident.  It was an incident which was clearly the result of negligence.  In Russian
    the term is "halatnost".

    Sounds eerily similar to 'Glasnost'... Neutral
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    Post  TR1 Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:28 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlrxSuzIcc

    Lugansk military training. Seems like they got Vystrel armored vehicles. I wonder from where.
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    Post  TheArmenian Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:34 am

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlrxSuzIcc

    Lugansk military training. Seems like they got Vystrel armored vehicles. I wonder from where.


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    Post  Zivo Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:05 am

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlrxSuzIcc

    Lugansk military training. Seems like they got Vystrel armored vehicles. I wonder from where.

    Who knows, these might be the "secret" russian adviser's vehicles.

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    Post  Regular Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:23 am

    Maybe we will see Armata there before it will be shown to public Very Happy Captured from Ukraine of course.
    Well the training they are doing is interesting. Those Vystrels might suggest there that officers could be there too helping with the training. I doubt that Ukrainian army gets even half of the training of separatists.
    Only think that I would be worried is those "volunteer" battalions who only listen to their commander, like shitload of cossac groups.
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    Post  medo Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:29 pm

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlrxSuzIcc

    Lugansk military training. Seems like they got Vystrel armored vehicles. I wonder from where.

    Kazakhstan?
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:08 pm

    Regular wrote:Maybe we will see Armata there before it will be shown to public Very Happy Captured from Ukraine of course.
    Well the training they are doing is interesting. Those Vystrels might suggest there that officers could be there too helping with the training. I doubt that Ukrainian army gets even half of the training of separatists.
    Only think that I would be worried is those "volunteer" battalions who only listen to their commander, like shitload of cossac groups.

    Only thing I'm worried about is that Russia eventually gets tired of annihilating those Ukr formations from orbit when they gather enough audacity to push an offensive again.

    The Ukrs are very stubborn, tricked into going against Russia because they're a poor and gullible people, who easily fall for America's Hollywood magic, showing them the country they can never be (at least while remaining a puppet of some greater power to use as cannon fodder against another greater power). However I think they'll get the message eventually, that their real enemies are the ones directing them from heated offices in Kiev, not the ones desperately fighting for their lives in the Donbass.
    And the fact that their columns mysteriously get annihilated with horrendous casualties incurred by sophisticated weapons, whenever they start to make any headway in the region - might go a long way towards convincing them of the futility of the enterprise.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:36 am

    Very interesting report about US plans with Ukraine and Russia..

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.se/2014/12/the-us-cannot-start-major-war-in-ukraine.html

    a small excerpt..
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    As a result the US must eliminate two threats to its power - China and Russia. Ideally, make them clash with each other. To do this the US need to change regime in one of these countries. Obviously, the Americans think that the regime change in Russia is an easier task.

    The question is how to achieve this? Orange technologies did not work in 2011, Putin became president again.

    What the West does when it loses in any territory is most important for understanding the events in Ukraine.

    When we talk about a Western loss we mean the failure of its plans and loss of control over a certain area, full or partial.

    What do the Western strategists do in such a situation?

    1949. Britain is "kicked out" of India. Before leaving the British set up the Anti-India - a new state of Pakistan. Tensions, military conflicts between the new states ensue. In short, many opportunities for the Anglo-Saxons.

    Again in 1949. As a result of the civil war in China, pro-Soviet Mao Zedong wins. The US lose control over China. What do they do? Create the Anti-China -Taiwan. Evacuate there the army of Chiang Kai-shek under the protection of the US Navy. Tensions, the permanent possibility of war between China and the Anti-China ensue. Tiananmen Square, 1989, Beijing - who can tell the "desperate" mainland Chinese from the agents of the Taiwanese special services?

    Attention please. In the geopolitical game to grant a diplomatic recognition is to follow the current 'national' interests, and nothing more. First, the United States recognizes Taiwan as China. For those who do not know: until 1973 the representative of Taiwan at the United Nations was seated as the representative of China. But later Washington changes its position, recognizes Beijing and ceases to recognize Taipei. At the same time it strongly supports Taiwan and prevents the reunification of the two "Chinas"

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    When in the Southeast of Ukraine the people who do not agree with the Kiev's coup rose up, few had a clear idea that they were “blocking the road” of such a terrible scenario. The presence of the Anti-anti-Russia as a part of a federalized Ukraine, refusing either to arm for the West, nor to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for it, blocked the Western plans to unleash the Ukrainian-Russian war. Remember the end of the spring of 2014?

    Moscow's insistent calls for the territorial integrity of Ukraine, for federalization, for negotiations. Moscow needs a unified Ukraine, where the pro-Russian part of the society will "tie" the hands of the militants and bought politicians, and will not allow to draw the whole Ukrainian people into the war.

    The West needs not the peace, not the prosperity of Ukraine. It needs a militarized state with an aggressive ideology in the form of hatred directed against Russia.

    Kiev begins aggressive actions against Donbass. Immediately the propaganda about the "terrorists" and the Russian military starts. Military actions, conducted with cruelty to civilians, give the West two possibilities:

    - To win by military means and then start the planned collapse of the economy of Ukraine as the beginning of its preparation for war with Russia. The well fed do not want to fight. The West can blame Russia for the difficulties and hardships, whereas the military service provides an income, albeit a tiny one;

    - To draw Russia into war, forcing her to send troops into Ukraine. The defeat of the Ukrainian armed forces does not matter for the West. It wants not the victory but the war itself.

    And the more Ukrainian citizens will die in the fratricidal war, the better for the West – the rebellious Slavic nation eliminates itself. As a result of the war in Ukraine the West will try to repeat 1917 and "overthrow the bloody Kremlin regime." All of it in order to take the course toward preparation of the war between Russia and China.

    And then a problem happened. Neither military success nor the military invasion by Russia and its participation in the civil conflict was achieved.

    And then what? That's what.

    The existence of the DNR and LNR as Anti-anti-Russia is the key to inability of the West to start a war between Ukraine and Russia.

    The cannonball on its leg does not let the United States to push Kiev toward this Great War with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of victims.

    That is why Moscow is helping Donbass in every way possible that is why Sergei Lavrov says that we are for the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

    That is why Russia does not recognize the DNR and LNR as independent states. To recognize them, to let them secede means to launch countdown for war with Ukraine. In this scenario the Western plan kicks in: there is Russia, there is Anti-Russia, and there is Novorossia. Anti-anti-Russia is no more. In case of incorporation of Donbass into Russia, those in Washington will stand up and give a standing ovation. This is it: the war becomes practically inevitable. The image of Russia as the enemy is created by Russia itself.

    In today's situation the Russian tactics in Ukraine are the only correct ones. US must pay to support 40 million people, Russia must help 3 million people in the Donbass and 1.5 million refugees. Moscow constantly insists on negotiations, not allowing the aggressor being shaped by the west to "remove the weight" from its leg, not allowing DNR and LNR to be defeated militarily.

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    This is what i have been saying for long.. that IF Russia manage to get peace in Ukraine..  US Gov will lose BIG TIME
    all its hopes to isolate Russia from Europe.. and to break its economy.. the West plans in Ukraine ,was a very long war between Russia and Ukraine ,that not only will sink Russia economy but have permanently destroy their posibilities of ever having good relations with their neighbors again. and damaging their relations with other soviet states too ..including Belarus.  If Poroshenko is smart.. he will see the game being played against them.. and will
    just reject any confrontation with Russia and reject joining NATO and instead seek to negotiate mutual development of Crimea and eastern Ukraine .

    Putin essentially have Outsmarted the west in the Ukraine conflict.. Now you have an interesting situation
    where US and Europe need to maintain Ukraine economy with their own money and pay their energy bills to Russia.
    Something like that will not last.. and definitively they will try at any way possible to provoke the starting of the war
    between Ukraine and Novorosiya.. If Ukraine economy collapse.. then it will be ditched by Europe and they will have no choice than to become close again with Russia..
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:26 pm

    Oh wow.. this is SHocking Shocked    

    Is about Syria but directly connected with Ukraine too.. Smile

    TR1 and others NGOs FANBOys That support policy in Ukraine and Syria will be very depressed to see This..  lol1
    High ranked Americans Veterans community and former intelligence services travels to Syria Damascus early in
    december invited to a conference against International Terrorism.. Big was the surprise of Syrians when after everyone talks in diplomatics terms about the source of Terrorism in Syria..  The americans delegation completely
    surprise everyone and began to speak without diplomacy and point fingers directly at their own government for the war crimes and illegal proxy war happening in Syria..  and start to name the criminals by its names..   Very Happy

    The conference have gone viral in all online media and have Exposed things that never before have been said
    about what really happens in USA ,what the problem really is..  The delegation of Americans have the information
    of Intelligence Services around the world.. and is telling everything with names ,so that the entire world wake up and pressure to end the American Government illegal war against Russia in Syria.. but also in Ukraine.   Very Happy

    But before you see the video.. get a hint with this one..

    Look what an American Neoconservative Pro Israel Lobby who finance US politicians told in front of many without blinking an eye.. Take a look at the Human Scum that fully welcomes US aggression on world ..what they say openly in meetings...


    "THANKS GOD FOR ISIS " ...  



    and here is the video in Damascus Syria of veterans from the American Intelligence community ..

    "Duff explained that what is going on in Iraq and Syria with ISIS is not Terrorism, it is simply CRIME. That is, it is the works of an international Crime Cabal which has gotten control of the American Congress. Yes, this is a large Organized Crime problem that must be understood at its simple root cause. Duff identified this Crime Cabal as Israeli and pointed out that this is Worldwide Crime on a scale never experienced before." ]
     Shocked



    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/13/historic-speech-in-damascus-sends-shockwaves-around-the-world/

    Also he says John McAin is the father of ISIS and have been put in charge of implementing the middle east policies of a world wide Criminal Organization that control the US government.   Cool

    What is interesting to me..Is that he said he will give more details of how the entire criminal organization
    operates and how the war is done in Syria.

    Now i wonder what will US "freedom loving" FANBOYS  ,who ridiculise anything negative as "conspiracy theory".. When you have Rock solid information from American delegation connected with the intelligence community ,saying the US government is controlled by a criminal Organization that is responsible for ISIS and the destruction of middle east.. And even mentioning them by their names.   Cool

    Interesting things told.. in the conference..
    1)US Controlled by ISrael and a world wide criminal Organization fund their politicians.
    2)Chuck Hagel ,previous secretary of defense stopped the US bombing of Syria.. he was against it.  
    3)He mentions The names of the Pentagons Generals directly working with ISIS and ALnusra.. and helping them
    to overthrow Assad and destroy Syria.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:05 pm

    But, but, according to our resident anglophile there's no neo-Nazi's in Ukraine:



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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:39 pm

    Do not confuse Banderism.. with Nazism.  are totally different things..
    One is an oportunistic CIA organized criminal resistance ,that operates is financed by the US congress.
    The Hitler NAzis in the other hand ,even though they turned too greedy ,and corrupted with power, they had some noble goals at least.. the destruction of the Rothchilds jewish control of the international Banking system ,that today backup the US dollar and is attacking Russia.

    In fact the best way to call them is not banderism.. but CIANderism. is not the same thing..
    They are only loyal to the American CIA who pay their salaries .the Nazi theme and at times
    praise for hitler is acting ,only to provoke Russia. They will spit on a photo of hitler or bandera if paid for that.
    . the modern Ukrainian banderas are just US Congress financed ultra nationals NGOS.. nothing more and nothing less.
    Real nazis will support Hitler ideas.. not go against it.  You have to be kidding that nazis will ever accept a Jew as governor in Ukraine.

    Your videos shows Ultra Radicals  US NGOs  created in Ukraine by US government.
    I have seen how well staged are some of their own filmed Videos.. with creepy sounds effects in the background and camera cuts worthy of Hollywood director.  lol1 That looks was a Choreography with many camera cuts and for sure had to repeat the scene to get it right... Wink . You are being duped..what you are looking is a CIA created radical organization.. nothing more and nothing less. it have nothing to do with Hitler or Nazism .. IF Russia was a nazi nation ,the CIA will have brainwashed them in a totally different way to become Anti-Nazis. The CIA goal in supporting them.. is to create an ANTI Russian powerful movement.  The theme they use is totally irrelevant.
    it could have been Chavism.. or Che guevarism.. whatever movement that is hostile Russia and serve US government to stop Russia influence in Europe will have been used.   Right Sector and Svovoda party is a continuation of Operation Gladio.. of the CIA.. to create extremist groups in Europe that their main goal is to sabotage relations between Europe and RUssia.  THis is not a small thing.. this is HUGE deal.. because the day Europe and Russia become close allies it will be the end of NATO..and US world hegemony. If there is something US fears more than anything is RUssia good relations with Europe.. this is why they use manipulate Poland /Baltic states and Ukraine... to create and wall in eastern europe to stop Russia influence.

    As you know Ukraine ,its power is today controlled by zionist Jews..and they finance the fighting of the radicals..
    that alone should be enough of contradiction "NAzis and jews" working together. To tell you is a complete bullshit their nazism movement.. but a show. Their hate for Russia however is real.
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    Post  Regular Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:38 am

    Rumor has it that Batman was killed. Batman brigade was one of the best in LNR.
    Seps are need an enemy to exist or else they will find one. Fucking traitors and criminal scum.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1971455.html?thread=290914047

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/2165882.html?thread=201637498

    LNR looks like total shithole.
    Almost all good commanders there were removed or killed.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:51 am

    Regular wrote:Rumor has it that Batman was killed. Batman brigade was one of the best in LNR.
    Seps are need an enemy to exist or else they will find one. Fucking traitors and criminal scum.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1971455.html?thread=290914047

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/2165882.html?thread=201637498

    LNR looks like total shithole.
    Almost all good commanders there were removed or killed.

    Didn't his wife deny that?
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    Post  Regular Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:07 am

    His wife was arrested apparently. I don't know about her fate.
    Some people are saying he was arrested and some say hes dead.

    https://vk.com/gbr_bat_lnr?w=wall-73367195_838

    "Народная милиция (шайка Плотницкого) арестовали Беднова Александра,его жену, ополченцев с позывным Фобус,Маньяк и Омега и еще несколько человек. Убили 6 охранников Бэтмена в том числе добровольца из РФ позывным "Кот" (о остальных информация не пришла)
    Произошло перед поселком Георгиевка. Сожгли 2 машины."

    Plotnitski is a piece of shit. No wonder cossacks want to fight against him. But he is better for Moscow so he will prevail.

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