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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:30 am

    The very mention of some of those names and we will shortly hear about war crimes...

    Some of their biggest kills were ships taking people from a trapped off bulge of german forces in the Baltics that were cut off from an escape via land so they had to risk going by ship.

    I seem to remember three ships with a total of something like 30,000 people on board were sunk... at the time they said they were mostly wounded german soldiers, but later they claimed there were women and children... but what german women and children would be in the baltics... these would therefore be the women and children of the baltic states whose sons and fathers helped the nazis guard prisoners in execution camps and feared soviet reprisals...

    To repeat my reply that was moved to another thread...

    Sad your graph is wrong, the Germans did not have over 700 divisions during the war lol.

    You do understand that after a division is effectively destroyed its reminents are used to form new units... a destroyed division does not mean every single man killed or captured... otherwise the number of destroyed divisions for the whole war on all sides would be about 6... even the encircled and captured Soviet divisions in 1941 and 1942 were not totally destroyed... we know numbers of them joined the locals as partizans or snuck back through the lines...

    Though no one is sure what the actual number is war records like that were pretty much destroyed and the USSR just didn't keep track of that well.

    There has never been any question that three quarters of German combat kills... ie soldiers and not old men and old women and children during the strategic bombing, were killed on the eastern front and the eastern front was where all their best soldiers and best generals were sent.

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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:05 am

    So now German invader losses on the eastern front are German women and children murdered by nasty Soviets.  OK.  Good to
    know that the brain rot in the west is terminal.

    BTW, SS keep on pissing on this forum.  You only prove you are an imbecile.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:29 pm

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:51 pm

    https://ria.ru/20201205/vov-1587768488.html

    But there were still a lot of other NKVD troops guarding the GULAG that could be used in combat instead.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:17 pm

    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: The Northern Fleet began hostilities on June 17, 1941 https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3134461.html

    What prevented the Japanese from attacking the USSR in 1941 https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3134762.html



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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 am



    Even if this amounts to a movie analysis, there is a critical detail in it. Hitler loses his grip when he realizes
    the full picture of failure to muster armies to stop the Red Army advance on Berlin. In the movie they have him
    rant that he should have purged the army ranks like Stalin.

    The revisionist narrative we have on Stalin's purge is that it weakened the Soviet Union's ability to fight the Nazis.
    This narrative is total BS. The Soviet army of the 1930s was infested with spies and actual traitors. You can
    thank Trotsky's Bolshies for that. (Lenin as they say in Russia was a "chuchilo" or straw man.) One of the reasons
    that the Nazis were cocky about taking on the USSR was that they thought that all sorts of dissidents would come
    out of the woodwork to support the invaders. This was actually true in Ukraine and a lot of the USSR borderlands
    but it was never true for Russians. So Hitler may as well have made such a rant since Stalin's purge did clean
    up the Red Army and ensured a functional chain of command.

    Part of the Stalin "the loser" narrative includes claiming he was "surprised" by the German attack. This is total
    rubbish since the USSR was preparing for war full tilt since after 1939. This preparation increased its war capacity
    by 40%. The other part of this revisionism is to claim that Stalin squandered soldiers. This is done by engaging
    in BS accounting. So the 3.3 Soviet POWs who died in the hands of the Nazis are counted as effective KIA.
    At the same time all the German allies such as Hungary, Romania, Italy and many others who lost over 2 million
    on the eastern front are not counted and we have an inane comparison of German losses with Soviet losses.
    About 20% of the German POWs died in Soviet captivity which is nowhere near 3.3 million.

    The initial success of the Nazis on the eastern front is not proof that the USSR was unprepared. The USSR started
    from the conditions of an agrarian state and was industrializing through the 1930s. Germany was much better prepared
    in terms of industrial war and had US and UK financing and direct industrial support from western corporations to
    lubricate their military build up. The fact that the USSR managed to stop the Nazis is a type of miracle. And
    that includes losing 18 million civilians since such enormous losses did not break the country psychologically. Again,
    the USSR did not butcher German civilians on the scale that the Nazis murdered Soviet civilians.

    Another question that begs to be asked is why the western allies did not rush to save German from the Soviets.
    The answer to this includes not coming out of the closet and owning Hitler's failure. But it is also due to the
    fact that in 1945 the Red Army could not be rolled back and so there was no point in trying. It looks a lot like
    the plan was for the "rotten Soviet facade" to collapse but that never worked out so Germany was thrown under
    the bus by its "pals". This smacks of the present day situation where the NATO west acts as if Russia will crumble
    under sanctions and their saber rattling.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:05 am

    1 German said that if Hitler didn't try to take Stalingrad, Germany would have won. Could it really happen?
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:17 pm

    Last of the Soviet soldiers who liberated Auschwitz dies at 98

    BERLIN (AP) — David Dushman, the last surviving Soviet soldier involved in the liberation of the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz, has died. He was 98.

    The Jewish Community of Munich and Upper Bavaria said Sunday that Dushman had died at a Munich hospital on Saturday.

    “Every witness to history who passes on is a loss, but saying farewell to David Dushman is particularly painful,” said Charlotte Knobloch, a former head of Germany’s Central Council of Jews. “Dushman was right on the front lines when the National Socialists’ machinery of murder was destroyed.”

    As a young Red Army soldier, Dushman flattened the forbidding electric fence around the notorious Nazi death camp with his T-34 tank on Jan. 27, 1945.

    He admitted that he and his comrades didn’t immediately realize the full magnitude of what had happened in Auschwitz.

    “Skeletons everywhere,” he recalled in a 2015 interview with Munich newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung. “They stumbled out of the barracks, they sat and lay among the dead. Terrible. We threw them all of our canned food and immediately drove on, to hunt fascists.”

    More than a million people, most of them Jews deported there from all over Europe, were murdered by the Nazis at Auschwitz-Birkenau between 1940 and 1945.

    Dushman earlier took part in some of the bloodiest military encounters of World War II, including the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk. He was seriously wounded three times but survived the war, one of just 69 soldiers in his 12,000-strong division.


    https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/international-news/last-of-the-soviet-soldiers-who-liberated-auschwitz-dies-at-98/
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:02 am

    1 German said that if Hitler didn't try to take Stalingrad, Germany would have won. Could it really happen?

    Stalingrad was a pivotal location on a critical river... it was also a trap planned early on that slowly fed Soviet troops into the fight to slow German progress to a slow crawl. The trap was not sprung till the very last moment, but if they wanted to they could have fed in troops at a much faster rate and created more of a stalemate with the Soviet troops holding rather more of the city.

    The way they fought was very clever and negated the German skill with combining air power with armour and manouver and prowess and communications advantages. The HATO manual for fighting in urban areas was basically copied directly from Soviet tactics developed in such conflicts.

    The Germans got beaten in Kursk... a one on one conflict in good weather out in the open with freedom of manouver and full air power and their latest most powerful tank toys... it was after Kursk that Germany was retreating ever after on the eastern front... Kursk was going to be their response to losing at Stalingrad and it made everything so much worse because when you are retreating any armour you lose is lost to the enemy, while any armour they lose can be recovered and repaired and put back to work.

    Last of the Soviet soldiers who liberated Auschwitz dies at 98

    European commemorations of the war don't mention the Soviets, it was the allies that won that war and saved those people... they invite Germany but not Russia...

    Perhaps it was a different conflict. cry
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    1 German said that if Hitler didn't try to take Stalingrad, Germany would have won. Could it really happen?

    Stalingrad was a pivotal location on a critical river... it was also a trap planned early on that slowly fed Soviet troops into the fight to slow German progress to a slow crawl. The trap was not sprung till the very last moment, but if they wanted to they could have fed in troops at a much faster rate and created more of a stalemate with the Soviet troops holding rather more of the city.

    The way they fought was very clever and negated the German skill with combining air power with armour and manouver and prowess and communications advantages. The HATO manual for fighting in urban areas was basically copied directly from Soviet tactics developed in such conflicts.

    The Germans got beaten in Kursk... a one on one conflict in good weather out in the open with freedom of manouver and full air power and their latest most powerful tank toys... it was after Kursk that Germany was retreating ever after on the eastern front... Kursk was going to be their response to losing at Stalingrad and it made everything so much worse because when you are retreating any armour you lose is lost to the enemy, while any armour they lose can be recovered and repaired and put back to work.

    Last of the Soviet soldiers who liberated Auschwitz dies at 98

    European commemorations of the war don't mention the Soviets, it was the allies that won that war and saved those people... they invite Germany but not Russia...

    Perhaps it was a different conflict.  cry

    Many Americans who like and read history, are not so biased. They give credit to where credit is due to the Soviets during WW2. The war against Hitler would not have been won without the sacrifice, and blood, and lives, & I don't have words to say, of the men and women of the USSR, who fought.

    This article was posted in local Texas news.

    I don't know how many Russian ethnicity live in Texas in 2021 but the Dallas-Fort Worth area is home to 70,000 immigrants who speak Russian, mostly from the former Soviet Block. This includes Russians, Russian Jews, Uzbek, and Ukrainians.


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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm

    Russian Newspaper in Texas

    "Our Texas"

    http://ourtx.com/
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:30 pm

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Last of the Soviet soldiers who liberated Auschwitz dies at 98

    BERLIN (AP) — David Dushman, the last surviving Soviet soldier involved in the liberation of the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz, has died. He was 98.

    The Jewish Community of Munich and Upper Bavaria said Sunday that Dushman had died at a Munich hospital on Saturday.

    “Every witness to history who passes on is a loss, but saying farewell to David Dushman is particularly painful,” said Charlotte Knobloch, a former head of Germany’s Central Council of Jews. “Dushman was right on the front lines when the National Socialists’ machinery of murder was destroyed.”

    As a young Red Army soldier, Dushman flattened the forbidding electric fence around the notorious Nazi death camp with his T-34 tank on Jan. 27, 1945.

    He admitted that he and his comrades didn’t immediately realize the full magnitude of what had happened in Auschwitz.

    “Skeletons everywhere,” he recalled in a 2015 interview with Munich newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung. “They stumbled out of the barracks, they sat and lay among the dead. Terrible. We threw them all of our canned food and immediately drove on, to hunt fascists.”

    More than a million people, most of them Jews deported there from all over Europe, were murdered by the Nazis at Auschwitz-Birkenau between 1940 and 1945.

    Dushman earlier took part in some of the bloodiest military encounters of World War II, including the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk. He was seriously wounded three times but survived the war, one of just 69 soldiers in his 12,000-strong division.


    https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/international-news/last-of-the-soviet-soldiers-who-liberated-auschwitz-dies-at-98/

    Eternal memory!

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:14 pm

    Everybody who have a serious look at WW2 realized who contributed the most in defeating Nazi, and even American history website recognized that magnitude, sophistication, and achievement of Bagration June 1944 makes Normandy looks like just a dwarf.

    But for most of the people history is not their specialization and interest, it is normal as every human have her own unique direction. And the Western propaganda preys on that unfortunate fact.

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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:10 pm

    Auschwitz was built with Soviet POW slave labour and these slaves were the first to be sent to the ovens. This is a fact that is
    systematically omitted in western accounts of Auschwitz. Meanwhile we had Ukr prison guards at Treblinka and elsewhere. Modern
    day NATzO loves the Banderite Ukrs and hates the victims and liberators of Auschwitz. Jews are an exception because they managed
    to not let the revisionist Nazi-apologist narrative delete the Holocaust from history. And the west is more obsessed with hating Russians
    than it is with hating Jews in the last 75 years.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:32 am

    I have grown up all my life in the west, and honestly their treatment of Russia tells me nothing I know about history is likely true.

    It is why I don't argue with people who say we never landed on the moon...

    These people don't understand that when you lose credibility then there is nothing but he said she said.

    There was a time when the American way was truth and justice, but these days it sounds like alternatives... you can have truth or justice or you can have the American way.

    Quite sad because what they were selling sounded appealing, but now I have grown up I realise the people in charge don't care.

    It is nice to see some still have respect... Bagration was an amazing operation largely ignored in the west, and it would not have been possible on that scale without lend lease.

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    Post  Finty Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:15 pm

    Had been trying to find out about Russian pilots in the RAF during the war when I stumbled across Operation Benedict, which of course is somewhat different as it involved British pilots in the USSR. A few days later, I read this. From the gutter press but I can make an exception

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9838543/Last-Force-Benedict-WWII-pilot-taught-Soviet-counterparts-fly-Hurricanes-passes-away-aged-101.html

    More here

    https://www.rbth.com/history/331979-how-british-raf-fought-in-ussr

    https://mechtraveller.com/2019/08/why-russian-pilots-were-not-impressed-by-the-hawker-hurricane/
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:00 pm

    Hahaha... just posted a couple of replies to that last link... wonder how long they will last before being deleted.

    The irony is the west is so precious... most of the comments below that article are asking why the Soviets were so ungrateful... could ask the same of western countries regarding the almost 30 million Soviets who died fighting Hitlers forces... why don't you invite them to war commemorations any more?

    30 million not enough?


    Wow, that was quick... both comments deleted... maybe hit a raw nerve
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:25 am

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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:16 pm

    https://vimeo.com/204156169

    Documentary on Wilhelm Canaris.   Canaris was likely a double agent for the anglos since he failed to give Hitler all the relevant intelligence
    on the capacity of the USSR to wage a conventional war.   This includes industrial potential and supply chains.   He did a good
    job providing intelligence that helped the Nazi invasion but this was effectively bait.

    In the documentary it is noted how the German high command thought the war would be over if Moscow was captured. This
    exactly the same inanity as with Napoleon. Except that Napoleon actually succeeded in "capturing" Moscow and then had
    to retreat with General Winter chasing him all the way. Western drang nach osten crusaders have the same mental pathology.

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    Post  Finty Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:13 am

    https://edinburgh.mid.ru/web/edinburgh_en/russian-pilots-in-scotland-during-world-war-ii

    One of the most interesting episodes of the collaboration between our country and the United Kingdom during Second World War is the story of group of Soviet pilots who were stationed in Scotland in 1943-1944. Their task was to receive Albemarle military transport aircrafts and to be trained to fly these planes. The pilots were members of the Soviet Civil Air Fleet’s 1st Air Transportation Division (called Moscow Special Assignment Airgroup, MSAA in 1941-1942, and 10th Guards Air Transportation Division in 1944-1946).

    There is now a plaque at the Errol airfield located near the cities of Perth and Dundee that pays the tribute to the Soviet pilots. Commemorative events are held in the honour of the Soviet pilots. However, not much was known about their important mission up until recently. At this page of our website you will find the materials created on the base of researches and publications by Ms Anna Belorusova, a granddaughter of Captain Petr Kolesnikov who was one of the pilots stationed in Scotland.



    The Story of the Soviet Pilots Stationed in Scotland



    From the very beginning of the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941 the warfare at the Eastern Front proved to be of unique scale, given the numbers of the troops involved and the vast spaces of the theatres. Given the strategy and tactics of both sides it was also a very mobile warfare. Although the concept of air transportation and mobile warfare was developed in the Soviet Union and suitable planes had been designed and produced well before the World War II, the Soviet High Command experienced dramatic shortage of transport aircrafts that would allow quick deployment of troops at the critical areas of the frontline by Summer 1942. Soviet Government considered number of options for compensating such shortages and following a request from the USSR’s Ambassador to Britain Ivan Maisky in September 1942 the British Government offered to provide 100 Albemarles, two-engine planes that were originally designed as bombers.

    Later, on 6 November 1942 Winston Churchill told Ambassador Maisky the background story of this particular aircraft. In 1938 fearing shortage of aluminum, the British Government commissioned a design for a bomber of mixed construction that was later called Albemarle: its fuselage and the center wing had tubular steel frame and wood covering. Once Albemarle mass production was launched, it became obvious that due to complexity of operation the plane didn’t have future as a bomber and would rather be used as a long range military transport aircraft.

    Next stage was to choose a route for the transfer of the planes to the Soviet Union. It was decided then to follow the same route that the head of the Soviet Diplomatic Service Vyacheslav Molotov for his non-stop flight to the United Kingdom in October 1942. The planes would depart from Prestwick in Scotland, fly across the North Sea, occupied Norway, neutral Sweden and the Baltic Sea and eventually reach Moscow.

    The British Government also offered a training course on Albemarle in Scotland for the Soviet crews. The task to ferry the aircraft was imposed on the Moscow Special Assignment Airgroup pilots.

    In accordance with the State Defense Committee Decree of 7 December 1942 ‘On Albemarle aircraft ferrying from Britain to the USSR’ 20 ferrying aircrews were formed in the 1st Air Transport Division. The first group of ten officers was delivered to Scotland on 11th of January by a British Consolidated B-24 Liberator.

    The Soviet pilots were accommodated on the RAF Errol aerodrome which was opened on 1 August 1942: three tarmac runways shaped as capital ‘A’ with a two-storied control tower and numerous auxiliary buildings on a wide open flatland. Pilots from a number of Allied countries were undergoing flying training in Errol with around 2 thousand people being stationed there.



    From the report of the Head of the Soviet Military Mission in Britain Admiral Nikolai Kharlamov: ‘Our airmen have started to work on the programme: the pilots and flight engineers are studying the aircraft, engine and equipment at the factories, the radio-operators and navigators are studying equipment in Errol. On 20 January flying training has begun. The air crews are stationed and catered at Errol, conditions are good. A considerable drawback, however, is our airmen’s appearance as they arrived in varying uniforms and without insignia. That complicated communication between them and the British instructor-officers, as the latter consider our pilots to be of low rank.’ Apparently, decision was made after that to order the Soviet Air Forces uniform from a local tailor in Dundee.

    Советские летчики на авиабазе ВВС Великобритании Эррол, 1943 г. Фото из архива А.Ю.Белорусовой

    Soviet Pilots in Errol, Scotland, 1943. Photograph - courtesy of Ms Anna Belorusova



    In the course of the next two months seven more groups arrived from Moscow. After finishing the training course at the 305th Special Unit at RAF Errol the Soviet crews were supposed to ferry over the first aircraft consignment by the Northern air route by 1 April 1943. In addition to that the British Government expressed its readiness to provide another series of one hundred Albemarles.

    Head of the Soviet Civil Aviation Fedor Astakhov reported to the State Defense Committee: ‘The first Albemarle flew from Britain to the USSR on the night of 3 March under command of pilot Shornikov. It took off from Errol airfield on 3 March at 20.45 (Moscow time) and safely landed at Vnukovo airfield on 4 March at 8.00. Flight duration was 11.15 hrs. Altitude was 4-4.5 km. Covered distance was 2662 kilometers.’

    By the end of April 1943 the Soviet crews ferried 14 airplanes, two of which failed to reach Vnukovo: one was shot by the anti-aircraft artillery above Sweden, another went missing.

    One Albemarle crashed near Loch Tay Lake, during a training flight. There are differing accounts regarding the cause of the tragedy, however, it is certain, according to the eyewitnesses’ evidence, that the crew under the command of the Hero of Soviet Union Alexander Gruzdin was able to lead the falling aircraft away from the houses situated nearby and save the civilians at the cost of own lives.

    Герой Советского Союза Алексей Иванович Груздин

    Pilot, the Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Gruzdin



    By the beginning of May 1943 a new challenge emerged. As stated at the report by Mr Fedor Astakhov to the State Defense Committee: ‘There is no enough time for flying over starting from 1 May. The current air route borders with the White nights latitude and our airplanes could be easily detected by the enemy fighters. I believe it is necessary to reconsider the ferrying route with the aim of preserving the flight crews and the planes. I suggest for your consideration the Southern air route for the period of short nights until 1 September, via Algeria – Tripoli – Cairo – Teheran – Baku. Total distance is 10 075km. I request your permission to enter into negotiations with the British to specify the aerodromes of intermediate landings, organisation of technical service and other related issues.’

    By June 1943 the air crews training programme at RAF Errol was competed. The Soviet airmen were invited to a tea party with Lord High Commissioner and Duchess of Montrose at the Palace Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh and attended the Scottish Cup Final football game in Glasgow. In spite of top secrecy of the operation, the commanders of the Soviet air crews were invited by RAF Command to the York air station to watch an armada of Halifax bombers take off for a sortie to Berlin.

    On 25 June 1943 the British Government confirmed the Southern ferrying route and the Soviet crews went by train to the south of England to RAF Hurn located at the English Channel coast. In July everything was ready for the transfer to Moscow by the Southern air route.

    At that time the Red Army Air Force Research Institute presented ‘The Act on Results of the State Test of the Imported Aircraft Albemarle’: although equipped with two powerful Bristol Hercules engines, it had a number of constructive and technological faults. Pilots gave their own assessments: ‘By its flight performance Albemarle does not rank among modern technology innovations... As a Soviet pilot, unfortunately, I am unable to provide a positive review. Commander Yakovlev. Have flown 40 hours and ferried one Albemarle from Britain to the USSR. 20.07.1943.’

    On 21 September 1943 a list of the aircrafts faults was provided to the British Government so that such faults could be fixed at the stage of production. The factories were however already under the heavy pressure and couldn’t meet deadlines.

    Further transfers of Albemarles to the Soviet Union had to be suspended, as the crews in Errol had to await for the aircrafts to be modified and tested.

    This waiting happened to be difficult for the Russian pilots though. The war was raging back home, and their colleagues were fighting the Nazis risking their lives constantly. There also had been no communication with families and friends due to the secret nature of the mission.

    One of the pilots wrote in his letter that couldn’t be delivered: ‘Dear Dmitry and Anatoly! My friends! It will soon be nearly a year since I am away from my country and only the first 3-4 months more or less justified this stay, and the rest of the time being like ‘London fog’. No aim, no clear prospects. Back home people are going through the decisive and fierce period or the war and here we are, fifty men in a closed circle feeding our spirit by the daily broadcast reports. I must tell you that the depths of the situation and our moral state can not be conveyed in words. What’s the matter? This is the main question pursuing me as I go off to sleep at 1-2 am and wake up at 7 a.m. in the morning....Your N.... 29 November 1943. Scotland, Errol.’

    Советские летчики на авиабазе Эррол, 1943 г. Фотография из архива А.Ю.Белорусовой

    Soviet Pilots in Errol, Scotland, 1943. Photograph - courtesy of Ms Anna Belorusova



    Finally, three aircrafts arrived by late December 1943, ten more were to arrive soon. By that time, however, another route for another aircraft had already been designed and used: famous Douglas C-47 started arriving by Alaska-Siberia air route, from Fairbanks across the Bering Strait to Krasnoyarsk.

    On 14 January 1944 Mr Feodor Astakhov submitted a report to the Soviet Government, where further importing of Albemarle was recognised unreasonable.

    In March 1943 the Soviet airmen proceeded in groups to Liverpool, Londonderry, Inverness, Greenock and Thurso. One group boarded a ship that went to the USSR as a part of the Arctic Convoy bound for Murmansk. Other airmen went all the way to Alexandria through the Atlantics, Gibraltar and the Mediterranean with the Royal Navy ships and eventually flew from Cairo to Vnukovo in a Soviet C-47.

    On their return to Moscow the airmen were given a couple of days of leave to see their families and then they went back to the frontline. There was one year of war ahead.



    Preserving the Memory of Soviet Pilots in Scotland

    A tribute to the Soviet pilots who were stationed in Scotland during the World War II was paid in 2015, when the world celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Victory in the World War II. It was made possible thanks to the efforts of enthusiasts from Russia and Scotland, initiative of Captain Petr Kolesnikov’s granddaughter Ms Anna Belorusova, veterans of Russian Civil Aviation and the support from the Consulate General of Russian Federation in Edinburgh.

    On 15 May 2015 at the Montrose Air Station Heritage Centre the exhibition dedicated to the Soviet pilots called ‘The Russians in Scotland’ was opened. Speaking at the opening the Consul General of Russian Federation in Edinburgh Andrey Pritsepov said: ‘Their mission stretched far beyond that most atrocious war. Their mission has not ended 70 years ago. By standing united here and now thanks to their children and colleagues in Russia and thanks to the people of Montrose we make sure that it will always stay in our memories making sure that their names and their deeds will be immortal both in Russia and in Britain. We believe that only by keeping memories of horrors and sacrifices of the war we make sure that it will never happen again.’ From the British side the audience was addressed by the Lord Lieutenant of Angus Mrs Georgina Osborne. Delegation from the Vnukovo airport (where the 1st Air Transportation Division was based during the war) and the Scottish veterans were among the most honorable guests.

    The exhibition includes the information on the creation of the War-time Alliance between the USSR and the United Kingdom, forming of the anti-Hitler coalition, on the British supplies to the USSR, events happening at the fronts of the Great Patriotic War, and the toughest missions performed by the Soviet air group. Significant part of the exhibition is dedicated to the pilots stationed in Scotland; contributions from private archives were used as well as materials from the Russian Aviation Agency and the Vnukovo Airport museum.



    'The Russians in Scotland' Exhibition at the Montrose Air Station Heritage Centre, Scotland



    On 16 May 2015 at the Errol airfield that is not in use by the Royal Air Force anymore, the commemorative plaque dedicated to the Soviet pilots of the 1st Air Transportation Division was unveiled. The plaque was delivered from Russia while the base was provided by the Scottish enthusiasts.

    The audience was addressed by Deputy Lord Lieutenant of Perth and Kinross Lewis Maitland, Deputy Provost of Perth and Kinross Bob Band, Anna Belorusova, granddaughter of Petr Kolesnikov, one of the Soviet pilots stationed here in 1943, distinguished Russian pilot Aleksey Timofeev and the Consul General of Russia in Edinburgh Andrey Pritsepov. The unveiling was followed by wreath-laying.

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    kvs wrote:Auschwitz was built with Soviet POW slave labour and these slaves were the first to be sent to the ovens.   This is a fact that is
    systematically omitted in western accounts of Auschwitz
    .   Meanwhile we had Ukr prison guards at Treblinka and elsewhere.    Modern
    day NATzO loves the Banderite Ukrs and hates the victims and liberators of Auschwitz.   Jews are an exception because they managed
    to not let the revisionist Nazi-apologist narrative delete the Holocaust from history.   And the west is more obsessed with hating Russians
    than it is with hating Jews in the last 75 years.  


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    The Będzin Ghetto (a.k.a. the Bendzin Ghetto, Yiddish: בענדינער געטאָ‎, Bendiner geto; German: Ghetto von Bendsburg) was a World War II ghetto set up by Nazi Germany for the Polish Jews in the town of Będzin in occupied south-western Poland. The formation of the 'Jewish Quarter' was pronounced by the German authorities in July 1940.[1] Over 20,000 local Jews from Będzin, along with additional 10,000 Jews expelled from neighbouring communities, were forced to subsist there until the end of the Ghetto history during the Holocaust. Most of the able-bodied poor were forced to work in German military factories before being transported aboard Holocaust trains to the nearby concentration camp at Auschwitz where they were exterminated. The last major deportation of the ghetto inmates by the German SS – men, women and children – between 1 and 3 August 1943 was marked by the ghetto uprising by members of the Jewish Combat Organization.
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    In 1943, Dita Gerlitz (6 years old) and her parents, Sara and Yehiel, were locked up in the Będzin Ghetto in Nazi-occupied Poland. Dita's mother knew that their next destination would most likely be death, so shortly before the ghetto was liquidated, she found a Christian couple, Theodor & Jaroslawa Florczak, who entered the ghetto and took Dita away. When they did, Sara gave the couple a letter to be read to Dita when she would be older. This letter said: "My beloved and most precious child, [...] I am taking with me your beloved image, as you have been in our home, your childish, sweet talk, the smell of your pure body, the rhythm of your breathing, your smile. [...] I want you to know that your mother was a proud person, despite all the humiliation we suffered from our enemies, and if it is her destiny to die, she will die without weeping, with a scornful smile for her hangmen. I hug you to my heart, kiss you fervently, and bless you with all the power of a mother's heart and love. Your mother". Shortly after, Sara and Yehiel were deported to separate Nazi camps, and went through hell, but they miraculously survived the Holocaust and were reunited with their precious daughter. The little family later settled in Israel, and never forgot Dita's rescuers. In 2010, Yad Vashem recognized Theodor & Jaroslawa Florczak as Righteous Among the Nations.

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