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Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
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Operation Bagration, the Russo-Belorussian operation that beat the tar out of the fascist war machine started 70 years ago from last Sunday. 
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Russo-Belorussian?
It was a Soviet operation.
It was a Soviet operation.
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Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
magnumcromagnon on Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:09 am
TR1 wrote:Russo-Belorussian?
It was a Soviet operation.
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I keep wondering about the official reason why the operation was named after Bagration in first place. Maybe there is some reason in his tactics. From all I read General Bagration was a commander who most of the time favoured bold aggressive manouvers against his opponents. All out attack, preferebly entangling them in a melee fight while cavalry was flanking and pursuing without hesitating or resting. This is of course when he was not retreating togheter with the Russian army. Then he was also very bold in person. Often found himself midst of a fight. Almost died several times in action while being cavalry officer, later occasionaly fought in the first ranks even when he was general. Was fataly wounded when he and his men were heroicaly defending their positions at Borodino. Apart of that, he was one of the main organisers of the Cossack guerilla operations against the Grande Armee. I rather don't go with a political motivation or a personal motivaton on this.
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I make a unified thread for USSR in Word War II (Great Patriot war). I also put a video with the 20 episodes of the documentary television series "The Unknown War " that was presented by Bart Lancaster.
The Unknown War (The Great Patriotic War) is an American documentary television series. The 20-part series documents the World War II conflict between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Each episode is about 48 minutes long, similar in format to The World at War. The footage was edited from over 3.5 million feet of film taken by Soviet camera crews from the first day of the war, 22 June 1941, to the Soviet entry into Berlin in May 1945. Most of these films have never been seen outside this documentary series.
The series is hosted by Academy Award Winner Burt Lancaster, who spent three weeks in eight cities in the USSR for location filming. Film footage from Soviet archives comprises a major portion of the series, supplemented by film from both the United States and British archives. Appearing in exclusive interviews would be Russian Commanders like Georgi Zhukov and Vasily Chuikov. Other interviews shot for the series included Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev and Averell Harriman, who was U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union during WWII.
The series was produced with Soviet cooperation after the release of The World at War, which the Soviet government felt paid insufficient attention to their part in World War II. Released in 1978, The Unknown War is sympathetic to the Soviet struggle against Nazi Germany. It was quickly withdrawn from TV airings after it ran in 1978, possibly because its tone was at odds with the growing tensions between East and West after the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan. Later it returned to airings on cable, including A&E, the History Channel and YouTube.
The Unknown War (The Great Patriotic War) is an American documentary television series. The 20-part series documents the World War II conflict between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Each episode is about 48 minutes long, similar in format to The World at War. The footage was edited from over 3.5 million feet of film taken by Soviet camera crews from the first day of the war, 22 June 1941, to the Soviet entry into Berlin in May 1945. Most of these films have never been seen outside this documentary series.
The series is hosted by Academy Award Winner Burt Lancaster, who spent three weeks in eight cities in the USSR for location filming. Film footage from Soviet archives comprises a major portion of the series, supplemented by film from both the United States and British archives. Appearing in exclusive interviews would be Russian Commanders like Georgi Zhukov and Vasily Chuikov. Other interviews shot for the series included Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev and Averell Harriman, who was U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union during WWII.
The series was produced with Soviet cooperation after the release of The World at War, which the Soviet government felt paid insufficient attention to their part in World War II. Released in 1978, The Unknown War is sympathetic to the Soviet struggle against Nazi Germany. It was quickly withdrawn from TV airings after it ran in 1978, possibly because its tone was at odds with the growing tensions between East and West after the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan. Later it returned to airings on cable, including A&E, the History Channel and YouTube.
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The Sacred War was one of the most famous Soviet songs associated with the Second World War. It was written by request of Joseph Stalin in 1941, shortly after the beginning of the German invasion of the Soviet Union[citation needed]. The music is by Aleksandr Aleksandrov, founder of the Alexandrov Ensemble and the music composer for the National Anthem of the Soviet Union. The lyrics are by Vasily Lebedev-Kumach.
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US Lawmakers Offer Resolution Recognizing Auschwitz Liberation by USSR
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Crazy this was 70 years ago...
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Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:53 pm
So no one seems to care the Yalta conference was 70 years ago?
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It was the Rippentrop-Molotov agreement with the Soviets and the "Western Powers".
It was very much like the meetings between Britain and France after WWI that created countries in the Middle East that created all the problems we see today.
The Yalta conference just created a buffer zone between Germany and the Soviet Union to make the Soviets feel safer.
it was the US basically accepting the creation of the eastern block as being part of the Soviet sphere of influence.... ironically something the people of the eastern block blamed Russia for after the end of the cold war.
In many ways it was splitting up the spoils on the European theatre, with concessions by the US to get the Soviets to take an active part in the War in the Pacific... the US feared being left to fight Japan on its own and was not totally confident that the nuclear weapons it had would work against the inscrutable Japanese, so they demanded Soviet entry into that conflict within x amount of time after the surrender of Germany.
Ironically this led to the Soviet liberation of China, Manchuria, and north Korea and the return of lost territory in the far east...
It was very much like the meetings between Britain and France after WWI that created countries in the Middle East that created all the problems we see today.
The Yalta conference just created a buffer zone between Germany and the Soviet Union to make the Soviets feel safer.
it was the US basically accepting the creation of the eastern block as being part of the Soviet sphere of influence.... ironically something the people of the eastern block blamed Russia for after the end of the cold war.
In many ways it was splitting up the spoils on the European theatre, with concessions by the US to get the Soviets to take an active part in the War in the Pacific... the US feared being left to fight Japan on its own and was not totally confident that the nuclear weapons it had would work against the inscrutable Japanese, so they demanded Soviet entry into that conflict within x amount of time after the surrender of Germany.
Ironically this led to the Soviet liberation of China, Manchuria, and north Korea and the return of lost territory in the far east...
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Top Secret WWII Archive Uncovered: New Light Shed on Nazi Invasion of USSR
Russia's Defense Ministry has publicized secret archive materials disclosing the truth about the very first day of the Great Patriotic War of the USSR against Nazi Germany.
At Least 25 States to Take Part in WWII Victory Day Celebrations in Moscow
Secret documents, including intelligence reports and orders given by the Soviet High Command have been uncovered by Russia Defense Ministry, shedding light on the tragic events of the first day of the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany (1941-1945).
The documents contain numerous handwritten corrections, indicating the controversy surrounding the first day of the war. The Soviet leadership refused to believe that Nazi Germany had launched a full scale invasion of the USSR and tried to contain the enemy forces on the country's borders in order to prevent the conflict escalating.
Despite the aggressive actions of Nazi military forces, the Kremlin had initially prohibited the Soviet Red Army from crossing the borders of Germany and allowed only limited airstrikes on the territory of the enemy, at a distance not exceeding 100-150 kilometers (62-93 miles) from the state frontier. The order had been sent to five Soviet military districts, including the Kiev command and the Far Eastern Military District.
However, just a few hours later the Soviet leadership came to realize that it had to cope with a large-scale aggression that could not be contained locally. On June 22, Nazi Germany together with its allies launched a massive assault against the USSR: 190 divisions of enemy troops, over 4,000 tanks, 47,000 mortars and other heavy weaponry, 4,500 military aircrafts, 200 vessels and five million people took part in the invasion of Russia. The enemy forces amassed by Nazi Germany along Russia's borders simultaneously smashed across the frontier into the USSR, all the way from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. Hundreds of German bombers attacked the Soviet Republics of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.
On June 22, 1941 the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, a Soviet governmental institution, issued orders aimed at transforming the country into a united self-sufficient military camp. The Great Patriotic War, the most tragic and glorious war in the history of Russia that claimed the lives of 27 million Soviet people, began.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/society/20150406/1020542977.html#ixzz3WZJZ35RK
Russia's Defense Ministry has publicized secret archive materials disclosing the truth about the very first day of the Great Patriotic War of the USSR against Nazi Germany.
At Least 25 States to Take Part in WWII Victory Day Celebrations in Moscow
Secret documents, including intelligence reports and orders given by the Soviet High Command have been uncovered by Russia Defense Ministry, shedding light on the tragic events of the first day of the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany (1941-1945).
The documents contain numerous handwritten corrections, indicating the controversy surrounding the first day of the war. The Soviet leadership refused to believe that Nazi Germany had launched a full scale invasion of the USSR and tried to contain the enemy forces on the country's borders in order to prevent the conflict escalating.
Despite the aggressive actions of Nazi military forces, the Kremlin had initially prohibited the Soviet Red Army from crossing the borders of Germany and allowed only limited airstrikes on the territory of the enemy, at a distance not exceeding 100-150 kilometers (62-93 miles) from the state frontier. The order had been sent to five Soviet military districts, including the Kiev command and the Far Eastern Military District.
However, just a few hours later the Soviet leadership came to realize that it had to cope with a large-scale aggression that could not be contained locally. On June 22, Nazi Germany together with its allies launched a massive assault against the USSR: 190 divisions of enemy troops, over 4,000 tanks, 47,000 mortars and other heavy weaponry, 4,500 military aircrafts, 200 vessels and five million people took part in the invasion of Russia. The enemy forces amassed by Nazi Germany along Russia's borders simultaneously smashed across the frontier into the USSR, all the way from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. Hundreds of German bombers attacked the Soviet Republics of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.
On June 22, 1941 the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, a Soviet governmental institution, issued orders aimed at transforming the country into a united self-sufficient military camp. The Great Patriotic War, the most tragic and glorious war in the history of Russia that claimed the lives of 27 million Soviet people, began.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/society/20150406/1020542977.html#ixzz3WZJZ35RK
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15 most important battles of Red Army in WW II
http://sputniknews.com/15battles/20150415/1020888765.html
http://sputniknews.com/15battles/20150415/1020888765.html
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Battle of Berlin: 70 years on
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Videos from RGAKFD- Russian state docimentary photo and film archive in Krasnogorsk
Battles of Khalkhin Gol
Battle of Lake Khasan
Soviet -Finnish war
Siege of Odessa
Siege of Leningrad
Frontline near Moscow
Moscow counter-offensive
Siege of Sevastopol
Battle of the Caucasus
Battle of Stalingrad
Crossing of the Dnieper operation
Destruction on the occupied territory [b][/b]
Liberation of Crimea 1944
To Berlin 1945
To Berlin! (20 minutes long)
Germany surrenders
Battles of Khalkhin Gol
Battle of Lake Khasan
Soviet -Finnish war
Siege of Odessa
Siege of Leningrad
Frontline near Moscow
Moscow counter-offensive
Siege of Sevastopol
Battle of the Caucasus
Battle of Stalingrad
Crossing of the Dnieper operation
Destruction on the occupied territory [b][/b]
Liberation of Crimea 1944
To Berlin 1945
To Berlin! (20 minutes long)
Germany surrenders
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Maih oh Maih
http://rt.com/news/253753-europeans-wwii-victory-poll/
http://sputniknews.com/society/20150428/1021462315.html
http://rt.com/news/253753-europeans-wwii-victory-poll/
http://sputniknews.com/society/20150428/1021462315.html
Only 13 percent of Europeans think that the Soviet Army played a key role in liberating Europe from Nazism during World War II, according to ICM Research poll conducted exclusively for Sputnik news agency.
The largest group of respondents, 43 percent, said that the United States Army played the main role in liberating Europe during WWII
Over 50 percent of Germans and over 61 percent of French citizens believe their ancestors were liberated by the Americans
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Hollywood garbage distorted the view along with this bullshit propaganda about Land-lease portraying it like it was the americans that let the soviets survive, while completley ignoring the fact that US was supplying nazi germany from 30's up to 45, through out the war.
Soviet Union was undoubtly the main and the only resulter of european theatre. 80% of Wehrmacht was destroyed on eastern front, while US entering european theatre in mid 1944 when the war was already decided.
But don't bother our western countries are low off interest about history and get educated by hollywood, there is a quite astonishing big portion of people who believe US won not only WW2 but also Korea and Vietnam, brought democracy to Middle East which now live in a flowering, peaceful country and waving US flags. With such bullshiting stories from the West with such nutheads trying to rewrite history like Yatzenjewk, where Soviet Union has aggressively attacked Germany and occupied other countries. This western jew puppet is actually saying exactly this bullshit, spineless unkosher insect.
Soviet Union was undoubtly the main and the only resulter of european theatre. 80% of Wehrmacht was destroyed on eastern front, while US entering european theatre in mid 1944 when the war was already decided.
But don't bother our western countries are low off interest about history and get educated by hollywood, there is a quite astonishing big portion of people who believe US won not only WW2 but also Korea and Vietnam, brought democracy to Middle East which now live in a flowering, peaceful country and waving US flags. With such bullshiting stories from the West with such nutheads trying to rewrite history like Yatzenjewk, where Soviet Union has aggressively attacked Germany and occupied other countries. This western jew puppet is actually saying exactly this bullshit, spineless unkosher insect.
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@werewolf: sure, this is Hollywood education
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Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
magnumcromagnon on Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:58 pm
higurashihougi wrote:Maih oh Maih
http://rt.com/news/253753-europeans-wwii-victory-poll/
http://sputniknews.com/society/20150428/1021462315.html
Only 13 percent of Europeans think that the Soviet Army played a key role in liberating Europe from Nazism during World War II, according to ICM Research poll conducted exclusively for Sputnik news agency.
The largest group of respondents, 43 percent, said that the United States Army played the main role in liberating Europe during WWII
Over 50 percent of Germans and over 61 percent of French citizens believe their ancestors were liberated by the Americans
The irony is that the average French citizen circa 1945 recognized the Soviets as the most responsible of winning the European front. So the people who actually witnessed WW2 recognized the obvious, while the ones who didn't obviously endorse the blatant historical revisionism.
BTW this fact alone derails the so-called 'Independent from America' mindset myth people claimed the French populous had. France stopped being independent when DeGaul left power.
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Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
Cowboy's daughter on Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:16 pm
Werewolf wrote:Hollywood garbage distorted the view along with this bullshit propaganda about Land-lease portraying it like it was the americans that let the soviets survive, while completley ignoring the fact that US was supplying nazi germany from 30's up to 45, through out the war.
Soviet Union was undoubtly the main and the only resulter of european theatre. 80% of Wehrmacht was destroyed on eastern front, while US entering european theatre in mid 1944 when the war was already decided.
But don't bother our western countries are low off interest about history and get educated by hollywood, there is a quite astonishing big portion of people who believe US won not only WW2 but also Korea and Vietnam, brought democracy to Middle East which now live in a flowering, peaceful country and waving US flags. With such bullshiting stories from the West with such nutheads trying to rewrite history like Yatzenjewk, where Soviet Union has aggressively attacked Germany and occupied other countries. This western jew puppet is actually saying exactly this bullshit, spineless unkosher insect.
Great thread with good videos, and good information, if you could skip the "Yatzenjewk", and "This western jew puppet", etc.
Persons do not do what they do, nor say what they say, because of ethnicity, but it comes out of their heart. Whether good or evil.
I have Jewish ethnicity. What you do, when you do this, is no different from a person in the USA hating Jews or blacks, or American Indians, based on their ethnicity, or politics, or religion. imho.
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Your ethnicity is something but not jewish that is your religion.
I am free to hate all religions i like based on their supremacy garbage of "God chosen" and all "Goyims being subhuman", so do not confuse this like that is baseless or like it is an ethnicity because it is no ethnicity.
I am free to hate all religions i like based on their supremacy garbage of "God chosen" and all "Goyims being subhuman", so do not confuse this like that is baseless or like it is an ethnicity because it is no ethnicity.
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Werewolf wrote: while completley ignoring the fact that US was supplying nazi germany from 30's up to 45, through out the war.
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and?
Russian (and Soviet especially) memory of WW2 generally does not put great emphasis on the fact that the USSR was of massive help to the German re-armmanent effort right until the start of the war in 1941 as well.
Drunk Buddeny was dancing with graduating German students @ Soviet military academies not long before those same students ripped the Red Army a new asshole.
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Re: Great Patriotic War (USSR in World War II)
Cowboy's daughter on Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:14 pm
Werewolf wrote:Your ethnicity is something but not jewish that is your religion.
I am free to hate all religions i like based on their supremacy garbage of "God chosen" and all "Goyims being subhuman", so do not confuse this like that is baseless or like it is an ethnicity because it is no ethnicity.
Jewish is both ethnicity, (dna), and religion. I have Jewish ethnicity (dna), but my religion is Christianity.
& yes, in this world, you are free to hate anyone you choose, but with all our choices come consequences, good or bad