Stupid move. Help them and take their market. Sell them mig-35 and other new weapons on credit so they are your client for at least 20 years.
What bank would back that loan? We might as well give it to them for free when they are headed for hyperinflation.
Any country that tries to leave the reservation (American dominated sphere) is going to head for hyperinflation if they own their currency (the attacks will come, and they will be vicious and persistent). The only saving grace for the European poodles is that they have a common currency in the Euro and can absorb shocks from the threat of American sanctions better but make no mistake none of them would fair any better if they go at it alone (like Turkey) - that be Germany or France (who are even more dependent on the U.S market)..........perhaps worse with the amount of quantitative easing they've been engaged in for almost a decade now and this very dependence. Turkey's trade ties with the U.S are rather small in comparison, so the shocks come with the shorting of the lira, capital flight and scared investors responding to the masters whistle aka lack of direct investment (mainly foreign). And Moscow is no different at all.....hec, the ruble sank just at the mention of new sanctions a week ago, not to mention the earlier gang-up w/ the poodles..... and Russia is a stronger country overall to manage these assaults. The Turks don't have as much luxury as Russians.....strapped for natural resources to satisfy even local consumption.
Moreover to fault Turkey for engaging in perhaps even more sound economic policy than the West for the last 20+ years, as some have tried to suggest, is laughable. The difference between them is that the U.S owns the world reserve currency and the European common market is huge and can sustain these shocks in a similar manner. Voodoo economics all over the place. Please...
So, given the circumstances, the Turks are doing extremely well and should be applauded for having some backbone in them (although it's hard to get raped and say nothing - so that's a perspective but still, others do say nothing). None in Europe have backbone btw. I don't think geopolitically and ideologically speaking, Putin could ask for a better partner from the "Western" block. Dealing with the arrogant neoliberal French and Germans must be a HUGE pain in the @ss. Everytime Putin meets Merkle or Macron the rooms turn to ice. Turkey is close, has a developed economy more or less, educated populace, young - is dependent on Russian trade ties (a lot) and being a Muslim country is actually a bonus here given the threats coming from the ME and Russia's own, and its geolocation is as pristine real estate as there is.... something a whole bunch of dots within Europe don't offer in the slightest... you talk about defense security, economic security and turning the tide on the enemies at your doorstep... please what better gift from heaven?
If you look at the general European rationable....to the submissive and "realist" it's foolish to rebel so in that sense their perspective and opinions are a lost cause - for the only thing they bring to the table is the further continuation of the system of control over their heads until the whole house of cards crashes down. Too integrated, too ideologically aligned, and dependent.
Which is why none in Europe will leave the reservation barring total imminent collapse. Moreover they know they'll be picked apart by the U.S if one were to leave the reservation, and others within the Union itself will fuck them as well trying to triangulate. Hec Poland within the Union triangulates even now and things are at "peace". If you look at it even further aback, it's even more of a benefit Turkey is not part of the boomdangle that is the EU - bunch of tribes with lines on a map separating them... bickering always etc... a mess.
Like I said above, Russia has a once in a lifetime opportunity here. And I hope they were prepared for this - that is, the eventual day Turkey could fray away from NATO ..... with a plan to integrate it to Russia's sphere of influence and integrate with it economically more so than now (aka the offering and reassurances to your new close partner). I do hope back in Moscow they weren't caught by surprise and are now rushing to draft strategies as the "situation develops" - aka one-step behind. To fuck the fuckers at your door-step you dictate the steps taken first, and as their predictable response comes in, however severe, you respond and set the terms again, and again. A big task will be convincing China to help because Russia's economic and eco-diplomacy clout alone is not up to the task. Everything always needs a push - Russia must provide that push here... how? That's a different topic matter that encompasses a comprehensive review of the situation with many experts chiming in to develop a strategy (with knowledge I don't possess).... one thing is certain - the push must come or the pull will pull back. Limbo is incompetence. But this is wishful thinking knowing full well how naked the Russians were caught with Ukraine and Syria. We'll see. I'll get to live it at least.
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