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    Post  GarryB Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:52 pm

    Ironically the fact that a huge amount of russians stubbornly oppose whatever their country produces(they view everythingthe west produces as inherently superior) or subscribe to antivaxxer alternative medicine has reduced demand and allowed those who want to get vaccinated the ability to do so.

    Better known as natural selection...

    Does anyone know if Russia is offering the Sputnik vaccine to citizens abroad in Russian embassies?

    It is pretty clear than anyone currently in Russia can get vaccinated if they want it... there were reports of the US having problems sending negative 70 degree parcels to their embassies around the world so their diplomatic staff were told to wait. US staff in Russia apparently asked for Sputnik V and were given permission to get the jabs...

    The CNN video above shows people not in the high risk groups who would get priority in the west seem to be able to get it too... so I would say yes. (unlike my initial answer which is clearly wrong).

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:18 am

    Guatemala registers Sputnik V vaccine

    https://tass.com/economy/1260321

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:11 am

    Can western medical research improve upon and exceed the efficiacy of Western medical research?>

    This is already a case to a degree with Sputnik 5.
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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:35 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Can western medical research improve upon and exceed the efficiacy of Western medical research?>

    This is already a case to a degree with Sputnik 5.

    It's not a 100 m track race. It's like asking if western science (e.g. physics) can "exceed" Russian science. There is a common baseline
    on top of which there are distinct branches (not fields) of research. So we have Johnson and Johnson, AstraZeneca, Pfizer, and then
    we have Russian and Chinese vaccines which follow varied approaches. In terms of the ability to develop vaccines there is no technological
    gap between the major players on the planet. That is something the western fake stream media does not want to admit. So it spews
    hate propaganda insinuating that Russian vaccine "technology" is inferior. What is inferior is the understanding on the part of both the
    fake stream media urnalists and the consumers that lap up their excrement.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm

    There is much that the arrogant western medical profession are closed minded to and cannot embrace in terms of alternatives.

    But then there are plenty of western quackery too... like Homeopathy...
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    Post  lyle6 Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:47 am

    Western medicine prescribes cutting off your balls and t*ts to satisfy a deep seated mental depravity so I'd say even Chinese is better.

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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:25 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sputnik-mutations-idUSKBN2AR0E7

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian trial testing the effectiveness of revaccination with the Sputnik V shot to protect against new mutations of the coronavirus is producing strong results, researchers said on Saturday.

    Last month President Vladimir Putin ordered a review by March 15 of Russian-produced vaccines for their effectiveness against new variants spreading in different parts of the world.

    “(A) recent study carried out by the Gamaleya Centre in Russia showed that revaccination with Sputnik V vaccine is working very well against new coronavirus mutations, including the UK and South African strains of coronavirus,” said Denis Logunov, a deputy director of the centre, which developed the Sputnik V shot.

    Results of the trial are expected to be published soon, but this was the first indication of how the tests are going. No further details were available yet.

    So-called viral vector shots - such as Sputnik V and a shot developed by AstraZeneca - use harmless modified viruses as vehicles, or vectors, to carry genetic information that helps the body build immunity against future infections.

    The revaccination used the same Sputnik V shot, based upon the same adenovirus vectors. The trial indicated this did not impact effectiveness, Logunov said in a statement to Reuters.

    Some scientists have raised the possible risk that the body also develops immunity to the vector itself, recognising it as an intruder and trying to destroy it.

    But developers of Sputnik V disagreed this would pose long-term problems.

    “We believe that vector-based vaccines are actually better for future revaccinations than vaccines based on other platforms,” Logunov said.

    He said that the researchers found that antibodies specific to the vectors used by the shot - which could generate an anti-vector reaction and undermine the work of the shot itself - waned “as early as 56 days after vaccination”.

    This conclusion was based on a trial of a vaccine against Ebola developed earlier by the Gamaleya Institute using the same approach as for the Sputnik V shot.

    Vector immunity is not a new issue but has come under renewed scrutiny as companies including Johnson & Johnson anticipate regular COVID-19 vaccinations, like annual influenza shots, may be needed to combat new variants of the coronavirus.

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:52 pm

    The whole immunity to adenovirus talking point is for morons. As if there is only one sort of adenovirus and using two different
    strains for the first shot and the booster is not effective. Typical western propaganda rubbish. Make a problem where there is
    none both in theory and in practice. If you listen to these western "experts" you would think that decades long experience
    with adenovirus (aka vector) type vaccines does not exist and it is all "unsafe and unproven".

    Clearly blood libel and general lying is a congenital western problem.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:14 pm

    ^ They need an excuse to peddle further their creepy experiment with mRNA on the general population...

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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:58 am

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian trial testing the effectiveness of revaccination with the Sputnik V shot to protect against new mutations of the coronavirus is producing strong results, researchers said on Saturday.

    Hahahaha.... anti Russian propaganda machine in full steam ahead mode... we backtrack on the untested line of attack because it is properly tested and proven successful... in fact better than most western equivalents... so we suggest another problem that people wont fully understand... lets pretend immunity wanes at 56 days after the shot so it might be successful but you have to have repeated vaccines every two months to retain immunity... what a crock of shit...

    Vector immunity is not a new issue but has come under renewed scrutiny as companies including Johnson & Johnson anticipate regular COVID-19 vaccinations, like annual influenza shots, may be needed to combat new variants of the coronavirus.

    Hahaha... lets turn criminal western company greed into a virtue... they want to treat viruses, not eliminate them because money is to be made on treatments whereas cures solve the problem and end the income for the drug companies...

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    Post  Nomad5891 Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:37 am

    Russian medicine is fueled by the state mainly while Western is developed by private companies with such little to midium coordiantion with the state.
    Russian medicine in terms of budget can not comapre to western one. It lags far behind. I think up to 2008-2010 Russia was importing basic drug as insulin as it was not able to produce it. Of course things have changed for the better today but I dont see Russia as medicine exporter any time soon. Yes they may reach a point where they cover their internal needs and market, but from there to actually develop new drugs and being able to produce them in the ammounts needed to export them...well, it quite the leap.

    On the other hand, having the state control your medicine research can be interesting, in the sense that private capital invests only when there is expectation for profit. Take for example the antibiotic field- it is very expensive to develop new antibiotic while humandkind is closing to the day when current antibiotics will not be effective due to resistent bugs. So Russians can actually get an edge here, as they will not care (that much) about profit and could invest money in the development of new antibiotics, that one day can be exported to the world.
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    Post  George1 Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:03 am

    Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine registered in Slovakia

    Slovakia has become the 39th country in the world to approve the use of the Sputnik V vaccine

    https://tass.com/society/1261591

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:35 am

    https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/sputnik-v-approved-for-use-in-angola-congo-and-djibouti/

    SPUTNIK V APPROVED FOR USE IN ANGOLA, CONGO AND DJIBOUTI


    Starting to conquer Africa as well. Cool

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    Post  calripson Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:45 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/sputnik-v-approved-for-use-in-angola-congo-and-djibouti/

    SPUTNIK V APPROVED FOR USE IN ANGOLA, CONGO AND DJIBOUTI


    Starting to conquer Africa as well. Cool


    Russians have a habit of being too charitable. Make everyone pay - full price.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:48 pm

    calripson wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/sputnik-v-approved-for-use-in-angola-congo-and-djibouti/

    SPUTNIK V APPROVED FOR USE IN ANGOLA, CONGO AND DJIBOUTI


    Starting to conquer Africa as well. Cool


    Russians have a habit of being too charitable. Make everyone pay - full price.

    I think they already charge full price

    It's just that vaccine is so straightforward and simple to make that full price is not too high

    It's affordable on purpose


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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:28 am

    They can pay later when it comes time to trade.... remember that time we helped you guys out.... we are the nice guys....

    It's just that vaccine is so straightforward and simple to make that full price is not too high

    It might also be that they are able to produce it themselves which means expanded production base which is good for Russia as well.
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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:58 am

    GarryB wrote:They can pay later when it comes time to trade.... remember that time we helped you guys out.... we are the nice guys....

    It's just that vaccine is so straightforward and simple to make that full price is not too high

    It might also be that they are able to produce it themselves which means expanded production base which is good for Russia as well.

    The vaccine is not a profit racket like the wunder crap from Pfizer and others. It is decades old technology but obviously
    with relevant research to select the virus proteins for effective immunity and reduced chance of auto-immune response.
    The US health care industry is an absurdity. One big price gouging scam.

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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:11 am

    EU approval of sputnik V is getting closer Cool

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine

    EMA’s human medicines committee (CHMP) has started a rolling review of Sputnik V (Gam-COVID-Vac), a COVID-19 vaccine1 developed by Russia’s Gamaleya National Centre of Epidemiology and Microbiology. The EU applicant for this medicine is R-Pharm Germany GmbH.

    The CHMP’s decision to start the rolling review is based on results from laboratory studies and clinical studies in adults. These studies indicate that Sputnik V triggers the production of antibodies and immune cells that target the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and may help protect against COVID-19.

    EMA will evaluate data as they become available to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. The rolling review will continue until enough evidence is available for formal marketing authorisation application.

    EMA will assess Sputnik V’s compliance with the usual EU standards for effectiveness, safety and quality. While EMA cannot predict the overall timelines, it should take less time than normal to evaluate an eventual application because of the work done during the rolling review.

    EMA will communicate further when the marketing authorisation application for the vaccine has been submitted.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:They can pay later when it comes time to trade.... remember that time we helped you guys out.... we are the nice guys....

    We all know that I that case they will just tell Russians to fuck off as usual

    Better to just take the cash now

    And there should be plenty of it as Kiko posted:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8117p850-coronavirus-pandemic-2019-20-2#314956

    Sputnik V could bring Russia hundreds of billions of dollars
    ...
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/octagon_media/sputnik-v-mojet-prinesti-rossii-sotni-milliardov-dollarov-60369c7f109f4c102e1b04c3
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm

    Sri Lanka registers Russian Sputnik V vaccine
    https://tass.com/world/1262761

    Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine authorized in Iraq
    https://tass.com/economy/1262891

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    Post  LMFS Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:07 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:EU approval of sputnik V is getting closer Cool

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine

    EMA’s human medicines committee (CHMP) has started a rolling review of Sputnik V (Gam-COVID-Vac), a COVID-19 vaccine1 developed by Russia’s Gamaleya National Centre of Epidemiology and Microbiology. The EU applicant for this medicine is R-Pharm Germany GmbH.

    The CHMP’s decision to start the rolling review is based on results from laboratory studies and clinical studies in adults. These studies indicate that Sputnik V triggers the production of antibodies and immune cells that target the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and may help protect against COVID-19.

    EMA will evaluate data as they become available to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. The rolling review will continue until enough evidence is available for formal marketing authorisation application.

    EMA will assess Sputnik V’s compliance with the usual EU standards for effectiveness, safety and quality. While EMA cannot predict the overall timelines, it should take less time than normal to evaluate an eventual application because of the work done during the rolling review.

    EMA will communicate further when the marketing authorisation application for the vaccine has been submitted.

    The CHIMPS is a wonderful name for that bunch of clowns, hail to the one that came up with it respekt

    "May" help against COVID? To decide if the benefits outweigh the risks? The guys that granted immunity to unscrupulous manufacturers experimenting with the general population??? Compliance with the usual EU standards??? Will they need to bribe them too?

    Really these clowns are too much for any sane person....

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:52 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:EU approval of sputnik V is getting closer Cool

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine

    EMA’s human medicines committee (CHMP) has started a rolling review of Sputnik V (Gam-COVID-Vac), a COVID-19 vaccine1 developed by Russia’s Gamaleya National Centre of Epidemiology and Microbiology. The EU applicant for this medicine is R-Pharm Germany GmbH.

    The CHMP’s decision to start the rolling review is based on results from laboratory studies and clinical studies in adults. These studies indicate that Sputnik V triggers the production of antibodies and immune cells that target the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and may help protect against COVID-19.

    EMA will evaluate data as they become available to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. The rolling review will continue until enough evidence is available for formal marketing authorisation application.

    EMA will assess Sputnik V’s compliance with the usual EU standards for effectiveness, safety and quality. While EMA cannot predict the overall timelines, it should take less time than normal to evaluate an eventual application because of the work done during the rolling review.

    EMA will communicate further when the marketing authorisation application for the vaccine has been submitted.

    The CHIMPS is a wonderful name for that bunch of clowns, hail to the one that came up with it respekt

    "May" help against COVID? To decide if the benefits outweigh the risks? The guys that granted immunity to unscrupulous manufacturers experimenting with the general population??? Compliance with the usual EU standards??? Will they need to bribe them too?

    Really these clowns are too much for any sane person....

    Chimp-Chumps maybe?  These Urine-Peon twats were slinging balls of their on skat on the effectiveness of Sputnik V, and have been thoroughly proven wrong by their own medical institutions, but will these narcissistic egotistical sociopaths ever apologize for being discredited charlatans? Embarassed clown pwnd

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    Post  Kiko Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:31 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:EU approval of sputnik V is getting closer Cool

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine

    EMA’s human medicines committee (CHMP) has started a rolling review of Sputnik V (Gam-COVID-Vac), a COVID-19 vaccine1 developed by Russia’s Gamaleya National Centre of Epidemiology and Microbiology. The EU applicant for this medicine is R-Pharm Germany GmbH.

    The CHMP’s decision to start the rolling review is based on results from laboratory studies and clinical studies in adults. These studies indicate that Sputnik V triggers the production of antibodies and immune cells that target the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and may help protect against COVID-19.

    EMA will evaluate data as they become available to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. The rolling review will continue until enough evidence is available for formal marketing authorisation application.

    EMA will assess Sputnik V’s compliance with the usual EU standards for effectiveness, safety and quality. While EMA cannot predict the overall timelines, it should take less time than normal to evaluate an eventual application because of the work done during the rolling review.

    EMA will communicate further when the marketing authorisation application for the vaccine has been submitted.

    The CHIMPS is a wonderful name for that bunch of clowns, hail to the one that came up with it respekt

    "May" help against COVID? To decide if the benefits outweigh the risks? The guys that granted immunity to unscrupulous manufacturers experimenting with the general population??? Compliance with the usual EU standards??? Will they need to bribe them too?

    Really these clowns are too much for any sane person....

    Chimp-Chumps maybe?  These Urine-Peon twats were slinging balls of their on skat on the effectiveness of Sputnik V, and have been thoroughly proven wrong by their own medical institutions, but will these narcissistic egotistical sociopaths ever apologize for being discredited charlatans? Embarassed clown pwnd
    In fact, they're criminal chimps playing deadly geopolitical games with the health and ultimately risking lives with the European population.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:52 pm

    There is a lot of soviet medical tech that exceeds western tech. For example phage therapy for infections. Its unique and really effective with antibiotic resistant bacteria.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:34 am

    In fact, they're criminal chimps playing deadly geopolitical games with the health and ultimately risking lives with the European population.

    Proven simply by the fact that the first vaccine ready for production is only now being tested by those clowns... if there was really that much paperwork how did all those western vaccines get done already?

    Personally I think the delay is a good thing for the rest of the world, because if the EU had any brains and tested it as soon as it was offered they would probably already have the stuff in mass production and their problems of distribution and storage which they are having with the monkey vaccines that cost them rather more to buy would simply not be a problem.... they could probably crank out Sputnik V in enormous volumes and provide vaccines to every country on the planet and this virus would be over very quickly...

    OK maybe this political bullshit is costing the people of the EU and the world yet again... what a surprise... but it is OK because Putins win of having a good Vaccine to save lives is delayed and we can claim it was one of many vaccines that helped... which is obviously the most important thing. Rolling Eyes

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