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    Russian Electronics: Semiconductor and Processors

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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 24, 2020 7:20 am

    The Russians are selling the Chinese their big powerful rocket motors in return for microelectronics technology... which makes me wonder what electronics technology they are getting.

    Sounds like a great deal for both sides as new more powerful and reliable rocket engines will boost Chinese capability to operate in space, and the new electronics the Russians are getting is obviously something they want too...
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    Post  PhSt on Sun May 24, 2020 7:58 pm

    The Russians are selling the Chinese their big powerful rocket motors in return for microelectronics technology..

    As long as the fabrication plants are built in Russia this is a good deal.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun May 24, 2020 9:40 pm

    All this is factually incorrect.

    80% of Russia's semiconductors are used in their satellites. They are using same microprocessor used in various radar systems onboard their satellites as they have DSP cores.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 25, 2020 5:36 am

    To be clear, the Chinese are selling Russia some microtechnology that Russia obviously didn't have before. It is not clear what that technology is, but Russia getting that technology is a good thing especially when all it cost them is Rocket technology they already sold to the US anyway, so it was not like it was exclusively Russian technology anyway.

    China could simply have stolen all the relevant information from the US, but instead they traded information with Russia which benefits Russia and benefits China.

    That is how adult countries should behave... negotiate and trade and help each other instead of stealing from others and trying to screw them at every opportunity like the US does.

    As I said, it would be interesting to find out what technology the Russians got in this trade... this should make them stronger, and the new rocket technology will certainly improve the bigger Chinese space rockets too... they will be more powerful and much more efficient... they are excellent rocket motors...
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    Post  PhSt on Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:34 am

    Not sure if this was already posted before but it seems Russia's flagship semiconductor company Angstrem has been obliterated by American sanctions Rolling Eyes




    Russia's major semiconductor manufacturer declared bankrupt

    MOSCOW, October 28 (RAPSI) – The Moscow Commercial Court has declared Angstrem-T, the leading Russia’s semiconductor manufacturer, bankrupt, RAPSI is informed by the court on Monday.

    This March, a monitoring procedure was introduced at the enterprise. The court included in the list of creditors of Angstrem-T the State Development Corporation VEB.RF, to which the manufacturer owes 14.3 billion rubles (about $225 million at the present exchange rate).

    In June, the commercial court put on the list an 83.1-billion-ruble ($1.3 billion) debt of Angstrem-T to VEB.RF on the demand of the latter.

    According to the applicant, the debt resulted from an 815-million-euro credit agreement made with the semiconductor manufacturer yet in 2008. Due to the fact that the debtor failed to comply with the repayment schedule, the debt amount was increased by the sum of the penalty.

    VEB.RF said it acquired 100% of the voting stock of Angstrem-T in December of 2018.

    Angstrem-T and Angstrem-M, subsidiaries of Angstrem Holding, were put on the US sanctions list in 2016.

    JSC Angstrem-T was founded on June 10, 2005, for implementation of the investment project of establishing a submicron semiconductor manufacture foundry.

    Angstrem is the leading Russian Semiconductor Company that produces full range of products from discrete components to high end microcontrollers and microprocessors

    VEB.RF, Russia’s largest development institution, in partnership with commercial banks provides financing for large-scale projects to develop the country’s infrastructure, industrial production and social sphere, strengthen its technological potential and improve the quality of life.




    Russian state lender VEB takes over chip plant hit by U.S. sanctions

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian state development bank VEB has taken over Angstrem-T’s semiconductors plant, the lender said on its website, after the company was hit by U.S. sanctions and crippled by debts.

    Reuters reported in October that Angstrem-T had accumulated significant debts and was set to be taken over by VEB after failing to reimburse an 815-million-euro ($945 million) loan dating back to 2008.

    A former owner of the plant confirmed it had been taken over. VEB did not immediately comment.

    President Vladimir Putin has stressed the need to develop Russia’s domestic tech industry to make it less dependent on foreign equipment amid a broader stand-off with the West.

    But Moscow’s efforts to manufacture Russian microchips and other high tech products have been thwarted by U.S. sanctions against a string of Russian tech companies.


    NATO is working hard to deprive and prevent Russia from developing technologies that can help it advance both economically and militarily, just like what they are doing to China with sanctions against Huawei, what is Russia doing about this situation in the semiconductor industry? Will there ever be a time when Russia can challenge current electronics superpowers like Taiwan, South Korea and US?? China is catching up very fast, meanwhile Russia's efforts seem to be producing limited results.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 am

    That's not how things work. Angstrom T was faltering since day 1 before sanctions. It all started with those 90nm from AMD. They never recovered the cost. This has nothing to do with US, just typical Reuters bullshit. Competition was coming from Mikron plant which has 65nm tech already and able to do lower (45nm). Essentially it was uncompetitive the moment it came out.

    VEB bank owned I believe majority of the shares as is. They just recieved the remaining after the other company relinquished it from the bankruptcy charges.

    The equipment doesn't magically disappear nor does the building. VEB just either 1) is running it or (2) will be finding a buyer for the equipment.

    Since this year Ruselectronics and Rostec have created a third party company together to work on various semiconductors for government, chances are they already obtained the plant especially since it was tasked to make the Elbrus 2C+ which is still being made for S-400 AD systems and Su-57.

    Sensationalism.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:42 am

    Well the Russian state lender just took control of the failed company... so they can either invest in a full upgrade to make them actually competitive or strip it down and cut their losses and learn from their mistakes and build another company to fill the gap.

    Put a tarif on any US owned competition to pay for a Russian competitor to be developed.

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    Post  thegopnik on Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:55 am

    http://www.ruselectronics.ru/news/?id=3483

    Roselectronica Holding Rostec State Corporation has developed the first domestic microwave generators needed to produce promising means of communication and identification. The new devices were created as part of the import substitution program of the electronic component base. Products differ from foreign counterparts with higher reliability and tightness of design.
    The new line of microwave generators, created by the Omsk Instrumentation Research Institute (part of Roselectronics), is designed to form a microwave signal in wired and wireless telecommunications, radar systems, automotive and aviation
    electronics. The developed devices are included in the "E-component database list allowed for use in the development, modernization, manufacture and operation of weapons, military and special equipment" by the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.
    The main feature of the new devices, made on the basis of resonators on surface cross waves (PAW, surface transverse waves - STW), is the provision of pulse modulation of the output signal and high resistance to mechanical, biological and climatic influences.
    The generators range from 500 to 2000 MHz and are 21 x13 x7 mm in size.
    "Due to the lack of analogues in the domestic market, Russian manufacturers of communication systems are forced to purchase microwave products from foreign suppliers.
    Generators developed by ONYIP specialists are the first domestic products of this kind, which will allow to fully ensure the import substitution of this type of product on the Russian market. We have already actively started the supply and mass production of products," said Vladimir Berezovsky, director general of the Omsk Institute of Instrumentation.

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