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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:22 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:I afraid that Putin will make the same mistakes like done with Georgia. This job really need to go through until the very end.
    Zionists Neocons and co. are like pit-bulls they keep coming back until totally beaten.

    Then their total and complete utter defeat is what must be handed to to these filthy Nazi dogs...
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    Post  TheGeorgian on Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:29 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    TheGeorgian wrote:This is their language. Calling everyone critical or not 100% agreeing to their horseshit, a faggot, swearing, waving with the fist Rolling Eyes

    Much better than chewing your tie... Wink

    Actualy no. It's not better than "chewing your tie". You now, for all the evil that man has done, he has achieved more in his life than you or anyone else on this forum will ever be able to. Prove me wrong whenever you can and I'll friggin invite you all to my house on a Georgian table. Untill then, keep swearing and calling everyone a faggot Wink
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:30 pm

    They have to do it the American way. Get in Kiev and execute anyone that turned against Russia, Novorussia etc.
    Then hunt down their ties their cronies and their friends and associates mercilessly. What remains will leak your ass and the rats that vowed against you will owe your power.
    Establish your own elite that spur hate endlessly about anything apart from BRICS. Message received.
    Europeans proved that this is the only language they know off. Americans worked it perfectly since 1945 and everyone including their slaves are perfectly satisfied.
    Soviets did the mistake that they were showing occasional humanism and backfired like hell.
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    Post  Firebird on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:11 pm

    I noticed the cowardly french scum have said they are cancelling the Mistral deals.
    Tossers.

    ------------------------------------------------------

    I'm actually not far from the NATO summit ( spit!!).
    The whole thing is like some medieval "The King is coming, rejoice and show worship" type of shit.

    They've even got a metal fence infront of a 40ft high, 20 ft thick medieval castle wall!

    Its all one big sickly public relations exercise.  The Ukraine is the big drama pt, closely followed by ISIS (Al Qaeda is now forgotten). Lots of backslapping over bullshit overpriced deals on dud equipment. Ships, tanks on show, massive pig (cop) presence. Its cost an absolute fortune. And its all lies from start to finish. Trying their best to make genocide and murder look "cool".

    They've even got some scum dressed up as hohols marching thro the local town centre protesting "Russian aggression".

    The whole think absolutely sickens me. Not just that Kenyan monkey (no apologies for using that phrase here). But all the rest of the sock puppets.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:13 pm

    TheGeorgian wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    TheGeorgian wrote:This is their language. Calling everyone critical or not 100% agreeing to their horseshit, a faggot, swearing, waving with the fist Rolling Eyes

    Much better than chewing your tie... Wink

    Actualy no. It's not better than "chewing your tie". You now, for all the evil that man has done, he has achieved more in his life than you or anyone else on this forum will ever be able to. Prove me wrong whenever you can and I'll friggin invite you all to my house on a Georgian table. Untill then, keep swearing and calling everyone a faggot Wink

    Settle down internet badass, your mancrush Sockpuppetshvili's accomplishments such as losing 1/5 th of Georigian territory is nothing to brag about lol!
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:19 pm

    lol1 lol1 lol1 Actually this is an argument you can hardly fight against!
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    Post  gregoire on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:32 pm

    TheGeorgian wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    TheGeorgian wrote:This is their language. Calling everyone critical or not 100% agreeing to their horseshit, a faggot, swearing, waving with the fist Rolling Eyes

    Much better than chewing your tie... Wink

    Actualy no. It's not better than "chewing your tie". You now, for all the evil that man has done, he has achieved more in his life than you or anyone else on this forum will ever be able to. Prove me wrong whenever you can and I'll friggin invite you all to my house on a Georgian table. Untill then, keep swearing and calling everyone a faggot Wink

    You are talking about sakaashvillii right? I don't think being a politician is a career any mother wants for her child. On top of that he's also a gullible fool. Quite an achievement to get into office with those qualities.
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    Post  gregoire on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:34 pm

    Firebird wrote:I noticed the cowardly french scum have said they are cancelling the Mistral deals.
    Tossers.

    ------------------------------------------------------

    I'm actually not far from the NATO summit ( spit!!).
    The whole thing is like some medieval "The King is coming, rejoice and show worship" type of shit.

    They've even got a metal fence infront of a 40ft high, 20 ft thick medieval castle wall!

    Its all one big sickly public relations exercise.  The Ukraine is the big drama pt, closely followed by ISIS (Al Qaeda is now forgotten). Lots of backslapping over bullshit overpriced deals on dud equipment. Ships, tanks on show, massive pig (cop) presence. Its cost an absolute fortune. And its all lies from start to finish. Trying their best to make genocide and murder look "cool".

    They've even got some scum dressed up as hohols marching thro the local town centre protesting "Russian aggression".

    The whole think absolutely sickens me. Not just that Kenyan monkey (no apologies for using that phrase here). But all the rest of the sock puppets.

    The move of the french was to be expected. To me it seems things are getting serious. Watch the lies grow bigger.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:36 pm

    Like I said days ago escalation was to be expected that's why I said that Vlad must wipe out any criminal core from Ukraine else they will keep coming for more.
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:11 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:

    Here.. Turret pops in a second.

    I said T-72... the videos you show are T-62 with turret pop as far i can see.
    Go show me a T-72 in Syria that its turret blow up . i never seen any.. yet in less than 24 hours
    we see 2 x T-72b3 without its turret.   And Did you saw the photoshop evidence in the Time 1 vs TIme 2  photos?
    It was 100% photoshoped scene.. so until now the "evidence" we have Russian invaded is a photoshoped scene
    and a lonely T-72 turret without its body.. that many experts say is not the B3 but an ukrainian one or some copy.
    But there are noticeable difference..  

    here is the real T-72b3 ,that i don't think Russia have in service..


    If you compare that beauty of tank..with the one that supposedly was found lost in Ukraine with double white lines..you will notice clearly the quality was not really the same.. specially the unions around the turret and seemed as if was done manually or as if was an old tank with a modification to make it look similar to the T-72B3 and with missing hardware.

    Not ignoring the fact that the ruptly video says the Tank was in the hands of kiev forces. and that is not very logical to give such tanks to the rebels ,when Russia have many alternatives to keep a low profile.
    why would Russia supply a tank that could not go unnoticed or could be steal. when he can supply more cheap T-80 or T-72 that looks more similar to the ones that Ukraine have. if Putin give the T-72b3.. then why not the T-90am? that is better no? I simply do not see the logic ..and already proved one of the so called evidence was a fraud.. the tank in the open large valley ,it was a photoshoped scene. Thats why people need to be extremely careful about videos or images from a war zone.. it could be faked.


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    Post  Firebird on Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:53 pm

    gregoire wrote:
    Firebird wrote:I noticed the cowardly french scum have said they are cancelling the Mistral deals.
    Tossers.

    ------------------------------------------------------

    I'm actually not far from the NATO summit ( spit!!).
    The whole thing is like some medieval "The King is coming, rejoice and show worship" type of shit.

    They've even got a metal fence infront of a 40ft high, 20 ft thick medieval castle wall!

    Its all one big sickly public relations exercise.  The Ukraine is the big drama pt, closely followed by ISIS (Al Qaeda is now forgotten). Lots of backslapping over bullshit overpriced deals on dud equipment. Ships, tanks on show, massive pig (cop) presence. Its cost an absolute fortune. And its all lies from start to finish. Trying their best to make genocide and murder look "cool".

    They've even got some scum dressed up as hohols marching thro the local town centre protesting "Russian aggression".

    The whole think absolutely sickens me. Not just that Kenyan monkey (no apologies for using that phrase here). But all the rest of the sock puppets.

    The move of the french was to be expected. To me it seems things are getting serious. Watch the lies grow bigger.

    Once thing is clear that it isn't a "policy meeting". Uncle Sam just wants to create a problem and sell as much of its shit as possible. Thereby locking Europe into its own cycle of debt and promoting instability. Its just one big military hardware expo, all said and done.

    I just saw 2 Ospreys fly overhead (I'm currently where the clowns are all staying). The fact 2 Ospreys ( ie widowmakers as the USAF calls em) are on show there sums it all up.

    Russia should cut off the gas this winter and say to the Eurogimps "which side are you on?" (itll cost us a lot more, but its the principle at stake)
    And stop supplying engines for the US space programme, as well as any logistics support in the Middle East.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:01 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:They have to do it the American way. Get in Kiev and execute anyone that turned against Russia, Novorussia etc.
    Then hunt down their ties their cronies and their friends and associates mercilessly. What remains will leak your ass and the rats that vowed against you will owe your power.
    Establish your own elite that spur hate endlessly about anything apart from BRICS. Message received.
    Europeans proved that this is the only language they know off. Americans worked it perfectly since 1945 and everyone including their slaves are perfectly satisfied.
    Soviets did the mistake that they were showing occasional humanism and backfired like hell.  

    Don't you find yourself funny?
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:01 pm

    Are there any statistics on how much ATGMS the ukrainian rebels are using? In most of there succesful actions did the konkurs or metis play a role or were RPG-7s enough?
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:03 pm

    I really hope Novorossiya will become socialist state serving the interests of the working class once they become independent, not a free market oligarchy like russia.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:05 pm

    Whats the news in wetsern ukraine now? Apart from the novograd volynsky mother's protest and the mass refusal for mobilisation in Zakarpathia  there hasn't been much  news.

    What about partisan action in odessa and dnepropetrovsk region?

    BTW can we hope for the rusyn population to eventually join novorussia?
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:10 pm



    Real reason Poroshenko announce "permanents" cease of fire.



    Stocks and currencies optimistically increased on peace moves discussed by the Russian and Ukrainian presidents aimed at easing the conflict in eastern Ukraine.

    Markets were bullish Wednesday morning after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a “permanent” ceasefire to the fighting in the Donbass region in Ukraine. The president's office later retracted the statement and the presidential website changed the wording to “ceasefire regime.”

    “Any mutual ceasefire is good news and the market is going to react positively,'' Neil Shearing, chief emerging markets economist at Capital Economics told Bloomberg.


    To inflate is economy.. but he declared a cease of fire and the Ukies only increased its attack in Donetsk.
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    Post  Regular on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:29 pm

    Haha, one of my friends on vk who was in Ukraine was pronounced dead two times by Ukrainian maidan pages Very Happy He is healthy and alive. If media want to find out about Russians fighting Ukraine they should fricking speak with people on VK.
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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:34 pm

    Cool video about Donetsk Airport.. is close to be fully captured.. under the airport apparently there was soviet bunkers that allowed the ukies to survive any any attack..  The lugansk airport however already was fully finished.

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    Post  EKS on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:50 pm

    Good evening to you all! I´m EKS.

    I have been following this forum for years now and I thought it´s time to join!

    And to kick off, this is a good topic to start with.

    First of all thanks for the good job to give a alternate view on the situation in Ukraine. I´m getting so  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes when I´m reading of watching the mainstream western news.

    Then to join the T72b3 discusion, it´s clearly a hoax. Just check the top of the destroyd T72. It´s lay out is very different when comparing to the T72b3 Russia is using. I guess it´s a piece of the Kiev propaganda play to get western support.
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    Post  Regular on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:01 pm

    . How long they are fighting in Airport now? They deserve some respect as soldiers, especially when their NG scum give up under more favourable circumstances
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    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:32 pm

    EKS wrote:Good evening to you all! I´m EKS.

    I have been following this forum for years now and I thought it´s time to join!

    And to kick off, this is a good topic to start with.

    First of all thanks for the good job to give a alternate view on the situation in Ukraine. I´m getting so  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes when I´m reading of watching the mainstream western news.

    Then to join the T72b3 discusion, it´s clearly a hoax. Just check the top of the destroyd T72. It´s lay out is very different when comparing to the T72b3 Russia is using. I guess it´s a piece of the Kiev propaganda play to get western support.

     - Hmmm, look again... I think most of us here agree that it looks legit, but to each his own.
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    Post  dino00 on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:35 pm

    As usually an excelent post by Mindstorm...thanks for the clarification
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    Post  Mike E on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:43 pm

    It was, and it might of proved me wrong!  Embarassed
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    Post  EKS on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:49 pm

    Well, my problem with the destroyd T72 is the right view lay out. It is fudamentaly different form the pics of the T72b3 I saw. So that is why I question if it´s legit.

    Also, I ask myself this question. The official russian statement is that they aren t involved in the ukraine conflict. So what is the logic of supplying covertly a tank that can be backtraced to Russia. It makes no sence. Then ask yourself who will benefit form this scandel. This makes me suspicius. Then ad that many Nato countries have t 72. So everyone can ad the basic characters of the russia T72b3 of an T72, but I think they cant ad sytems the T72b3 has, but are unavailable to Nato countries. To make te T72 work is to ad other technology. And in my opinion that could explain the different lay out of the destroyd T72.
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:00 pm

    Ukraine begins to build real border with Russia — Yatsenyuk - http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747858
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