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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:12 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Interesting info.. that Putin Told and was picked by CNN and made headlines..

    Putin :


    Moscow doesn't want or intend to wade into any "large-scale conflicts," Putin insisted at a youth forum, state-run Itar-Tass reported. A few breaths later, he made the point that Russia is "strengthening our nuclear deterrence forces and our armed forces," making them more efficient and modernized.
    "I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations," the President said. "This is a reality, not just words." He later warned, "We must always be ready to repel any aggression against Russia and (potential enemies) should be aware .. it is better not to come against Russia as regards a possible armed conflict." .


    I told you, a dangerous man…
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    Post  Petro007 Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:13 pm

    Ok, there is a possibility of Strelkov being alive

    That phoyo comes from a blogger called "El Murid". Here is the full entry el-murid . livejournal. com/ 1982802.html

    He claims that Strelkov is in Russia and that the news of his presence in Crimea was false and was used to attract attention.

    What is known is that this photo had not been published before and that that guy was dressed in a similar clothes previously. See this interview: youtube. com/ watch?v=sz-2cdnU-M0
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    Post  arpakola Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:17 pm

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:19 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Interesting info.. that Putin Told and was picked by CNN and made headlines..

    Putin :


    Moscow doesn't want or intend to wade into any "large-scale conflicts," Putin insisted at a youth forum, state-run Itar-Tass reported. A few breaths later, he made the point that Russia is "strengthening our nuclear deterrence forces and our armed forces," making them more efficient and modernized.
    "I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations," the President said. "This is a reality, not just words." He later warned, "We must always be ready to repel any aggression against Russia and (potential enemies) should be aware .. it is better not to come against Russia as regards a possible armed conflict." .


    I told you, a dangerous man…

    What a dangerous madman, dares to protect his country... we should all have such anglo saxon and zionazi scum puppets like Merkel,Rutte and other useless scum who are dangerous to global peace.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:25 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Flyingdutchman wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Interesting info.. that Putin Told and was picked by CNN and made headlines..

    Putin :


    Moscow doesn't want or intend to wade into any "large-scale conflicts," Putin insisted at a youth forum, state-run Itar-Tass reported. A few breaths later, he made the point that Russia is "strengthening our nuclear deterrence forces and our armed forces," making them more efficient and modernized.
    "I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations," the President said. "This is a reality, not just words." He later warned, "We must always be ready to repel any aggression against Russia and (potential enemies) should be aware .. it is better not to come against Russia as regards a possible armed conflict." .


    I told you, a dangerous man…

    What a dangerous madman, dares to protect his country... we should all have such anglo saxon and zionazi scum puppets like Merkel,Rutte and other useless scum who are dangerous to global peace.


    Putin keeps making new nuclear weapons and modernises all of his old ones, way more then Western countries do, as i said the first he Will do in a armed conflict with NATO is push the red button…
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:27 pm


    I told you, a dangerous man…

    Nuclear weapons purpose is deterrence.. to scare your enemies.. And it works.. Putin only speak about
    Retaliation against any aggression to Russia. So is his job to protect his nation and remind any potential
    enemy to not try an attack on Russia.. It his words can avoid a major war.. then so be it..

    Zionist powers in NATO ,are very dangerous nations.. They support Alqaeda and ISIS..overthrow government ,shot down civilians airlines killing 300 , stage false flags attacks like in (9/11) killing 3,000 of their own people.. US used 2 times nuclear weapons on japan.. Russia never on anyone. Russia have never started a war unless they were attacked first.force and power are the only thing such Zionist powers respect.


    Putin keeps making new nuclear weapons and modernises all of his old ones, way more then Western countries do, as i said the first he Will do in a armed conflict with NATO is push the red button…

    Not really.. Russia had nukes in Afgan war.. and they do not used them.. even though US was arming the Talibans.
    NATO armed FSA in Syria and Russia ally ,and Russia did not used them. GEorgia attacked Russian peacekeepers..
    and Russia did not used nuclear bombs.. In fact US sink one Russian submarine. the kurks..in an unintended attack
    and Russia did not bombed US for that.. Clinton gave Putin a heavy paycheck of many Billions US dollars and canceled Russia debt and gave them a new loan. Very Happy Putin is very smart.. don't understimate him.. he will do whatever thing is more practical and can benefit more Russia economically.. but without risking their security.
    Only way Russia could use nukes is if a mass scale attack happens.. against Moscow by any nation.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:33 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    I told you, a dangerous man…

    Nuclear weapons purpose is deterrence.. to scare your enemies.. And it works.. Putin only speak about
    Retaliation against any aggression to Russia. So is his job to protect his nation and remind any potential
    enemy to not try an attack on Russia.. It his words can avoid a major war.. then so be it..

    Zionist powers in NATO ,are very dangerous nations.. They support Alqaeda and ISIS..overthrow government ,shot down civilians airlines killing 300 , stage false flags attacks like in (9/11) killing 3,000 of their own people.. US used 2 times nuclear weapons on japan.. Russia never on anyone. Russia have never started a war unless they were attacked first.force and power are the only thing such Zionist powers respect.

    Hahaha 9/11 a false flag??
    You're kidding right?
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:35 pm

    arpakola wrote:

    Russians??
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    Post  arpakola Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:41 pm

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    Post  Petro007 Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:42 pm

    LOL, the antisemitism that some users display here (Werewolf in particular) would make excellent material for scientists dealing with psychology of religion. Deification of the sources of fear is the main mechanism by which primitive religions arose.
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    Post  gregoire Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:45 pm

    Israel has the right to defend itself but for some reason Russia doesn't?
    Russia modernizes it's entire army for a fraction of the budget of the US and it rarely uses it.
    Putin as a statesman has shown that he is a historical figure even before he did anything that attracted attention from the west. Getting Russia to function again was a nearly impossible task but he pulled it of.

    This whole Ukraine internal "war" will end badly for the junta even if the end result was a win for kiev. The latter, of course, will not happen. Ukraine is irreparably broken.
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    Post  gregoire Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:48 pm

    Petro007 wrote:LOL, the antisemitism that some users display here (Werewolf in particular) would make excellent material for scientists dealing with psychology of religion. Deification of the sources of fear is the main mechanism by which primitive religions arose.

    Anti-semitism, sadly, had it's roots in the actions of the "tribe" (which nowadays isn't a tribe but an old boys club). Nowadays it almost an nom de guerre. You'd be called a antisemite just for pointing at the war crimes of israel. Or kolomoisky. Or pick any senator of the united states. They have no problem with treason.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:55 pm

    Petro007 wrote:LOL, the antisemitism that some users display here (Werewolf in particular) would make excellent material for scientists dealing with psychology of religion. Deification of the sources of fear is the main mechanism by which primitive religions arose.

    So finally you admit Strelkov is very likely is alive and kicking? Very Happy

    about the previous video of the tank.. looks like one tank there is from Russian Federation. Very Happy
    But if i were to bet.. and if indeed was given by Russia.. they are using Private mercenaries from Russia
    federation.. It makes no sense to use your official regular army ,since Russia do not have permission to use it.
    For such kind of operations..that you use limited military hardware and no airforce is very risky to use inexperienced soldiers.. you need real Professionals experienced soldiers for that.. Volunteers veterans..

    The soldiers can be even from Kazakistan ,Belarus or Abkhazia.. Too many ways for Russia to bypass any legal issue.. The future of modern warfare will be on Private volunteer armies.. With official Army you have a huge public relations problems.. ie.. if the soldier is killed ,the media will interview his family. .etc.. Is much better to hire for such mission people that live alone and that no one will miss them if they killed.


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    Post  Petro007 Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:57 pm

    yes, Girkin is probably alive... im not 100 percent sure but about 75 percent yes. If we see a new video with him, Ill get convinced entirely.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:04 pm

    Petro007 wrote:LOL, the antisemitism that some users display here (Werewolf in particular) would make excellent material for scientists dealing with psychology of religion. Deification of the sources of fear is the main mechanism by which primitive religions arose.

    There is no anti-semitism here, jews are not semites but white khazar occupators from europe.

    And you fucking canadian joke of a jew, portraying himself as ukrainian while not even having a drop of slavic blood running through your venes.

    A comedian you are and not even a good one.
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    Post  Petro007 Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:17 pm

    you pathetic parody of a German I'm an Ukrainian and I am currently in Ukraine, it simply dont live here permanently
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:23 pm

    Petro007 wrote:you pathetic parody of a German I'm an Ukrainian and I am currently in Ukraine, it simply dont live here permanently

    Sure you anglo saxon clown living in canada.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:47 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Petro007 wrote:you pathetic parody of a German I'm an Ukrainian and I am currently in Ukraine, it simply dont live here permanently

    Sure you anglo saxon clown living in canada.

    How could you know?
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:32 pm

    Ok ..time to move on.. with the Antisemitism vs  semitism.  

    On more news..

    There are people saying Ukraine got T-72 from Hungary with the sole intention to Frame Russia in a false
    Flag attack they are preparing. Suspect   So if the information happens to be correct..
    be careful with Videos of T-72 even the modern ones..  Because it will be very easy for NATO to makeup a T-72 old Hungarian tank to make it look like a new one. Holywood industry artist could do it easily.. Im sure Russia have to be helping in Ukraine.. but im also very sure
    that NATO and Kiev will try ANOTHER False Flag attack ,with many civilians killed and blame it on Russia.

    This is the reason i didn't supported Russia to invade in an official way.. Because will very easily for NATO and western media to stage videos with Russian forces starting massacres against civilians womens and children.
    So i still have my doubts that Russia moved Easy to identify Russian hardware in Ukraine.. Manpads and anti-tank rockets is not a problem.. but tanks could be.. There are also reports of Novo Fighters capturing another Toscka
    missile..  So count the hours and days from now.. and you will see maybe tonight.. maybe sunday or monday or tuesday and major false flag incident .. and the Proof that Russia did it will be fabricated videos with Russian hardware like T-72 tanks or  Toschka-U missiles the Rebels captured. etc... I do think that Manpads and anti tank rockets from Russia and even lazer munition have to be used.  But Big Targets easy to identify as Russian presence might be staged.. or maybe not..   What im sure is that there is already too much discussion
    of a major false flag attack happening .. Not only in Ukraine.. to blame Russia.. but also another in Britain.. To blame ISIS.. and justify a NATO invasion in SYria as retaliation for they invading in Ukraine.

    To give you an idea how NATO pro Media fake news..totally fabricate news,and how far they can go..
    all the way to hire actors and studios .. look no further the Gulf war coverage by CNN.



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    Post  arpakola Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:01 pm

    Flyingdutchman wrote:
    arpakola wrote:

    Russians??
    yes
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:29 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Ok ..time to move on.. with the Antisemitism vs  semitism.  

    On more news..

    There are people saying Ukraine got T-72 from Hungary with the sole intention to Frame Russia in a false
    Flag attack they are preparing. Suspect   So if the information happens to be correct..
    be careful with Videos of T-72 even the modern ones..  Because it will be very easy for NATO to makeup a T-72 old Hungarian tank to make it look like a new one. Holywood industry artist could do it easily.. Im sure Russia have to be helping in Ukraine.. but im also very sure
    that NATO and Kiev will try ANOTHER False Flag attack ,with many civilians killed and blame it on Russia.

    This is the reason i didn't supported Russia to invade in an official way.. Because will very easily for NATO and western media to stage videos with Russian forces starting massacres against civilians womens and children.
    So i still have my doubts that Russia moved Easy to identify Russian hardware in Ukraine.. Manpads and anti-tank rockets is not a problem.. but tanks could be.. There are also reports of Novo Fighters capturing another Toscka
    missile..  So count the hours and days from now.. and you will see maybe tonight.. maybe sunday or monday or tuesday and major false flag incident .. and the Proof that Russia did it will be fabricated videos with Russian hardware like T-72 tanks or  Toschka-U missiles the Rebels captured. etc... I do think that Manpads and anti tank rockets from Russia and even lazer munition have to be used.  But Big Targets easy to identify as Russian presence might be staged.. or maybe not..   What im sure is that there is already too much discussion
    of a major false flag attack happening .. Not only in Ukraine.. to blame Russia.. but also another in Britain.. To blame ISIS.. and justify a NATO invasion in SYria as retaliation for they invading in Ukraine.

    To give you an idea how NATO pro Media fake news..totally fabricate news,and how far they can go..
    all the way to hire actors and studios .. look no further the Gulf war coverage by CNN.




    Nice post.
    There are dozen of such videos with actors like in Syria with Danny the baker/reporter/freedom fighter/cameraman/local victim of attack by Assad regime and so on, CNN also used actors of some ukropy idiots that tried to make a protest against russia on crimea with a bunch of about 14 people yelling Pro EU crap and getting instructions from camera man not to yell to loud so they could understand the "journalist".
    The dozen videos of actors playing injured by sarin gas, bullets,bombs and so on, while waiting for the command to go with their screams,mouns and crying.

    CNN was infiltrated by CIA since mid 80s (officially) and here is the proof.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:30 pm

    . i read somewhere that Mariupol was derrussofied by exporting citizens from western cities..and moving pro RUssian ones to the other pro Ukie cities.. same with Kharkiv and odessa..  Look at the NGO's armies from the white house in Mariupol making a human chain in mariupol , for what? For western media propaganda..  Laughing


    Mariupol Under Siege by Novorossiya ,no civilians are attacked..
    every NGO having Fun and happy.. it was said in twiter many of the womens there are the wives
    of the Nazi soldiers that are Bombing with artillery Donetsk and Lugansk killing civilians women and childrens,
    While this womens in Mariupol are having fun and safe.. in Donetsk and lugansk civilians women and children are killed by this womens relatives.

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    Notice how none of the are afraid of Russia invasion to mariupol.. they all smiling and having fun..
    the same cannot be said about residents of Donetsk and Lugansk that are systematically killed everyday with the
    shelling.. If i was there in Mariupol and will go there with Big Color Posters showing the Genocide happening in
    eastern Ukraine against civilians.. to ruin their propaganda show.

    This is why i don't wanted Russian army to officially invade.. because will have been catastrophic for their world image and western media will had a field day.. if they start to make human chains to stop Russian army tanks..
    that will have made the headlines in the entire world. in news papers and magazines controlled by Zionist elite.
    Poroshenko might not win in a military victory but in a media victory they could win ,with the help of false flags
    and Pathetic Human Chains..  A perfect place to throw tear gas and force every Ukie to leave the place.
    There was another photo.. to proof that they are all NGO agents paid by US AID congress funding.. where
    they were making a protest against Russia.. in mariupol..and at the distance ,you could see a line of brand new elegant Busses .. like as if they were members of a Club or some organization and that contrary to real protest.. that people go in their own cars .they all received transportation by some CLub or organization.


    Here DONETSK city ,notice the difference between both sides.. one absolutely at peace ,civilians not being killed by artillery and the other shows a warzone ,with Ukraine Army indiscriminately bombing their cities.
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    Compare the fun of the EuroMaidanuts with the suffering of Donetsk and Lugansk people..consequences
    of kiev criminal war. The fun that that the Euromaidans are having in Mariupol clearly shows how much disrespect
    they have for human life... they should be demanding Poroshenko to stop the criminal war.. and not doing Human Chains to show some kind of Unity with their criminal nazi government. Unfortunately the Donetsk and Lugansk civilians cannot do human chains. like mariupol nuland minions.because they need to live in bunkers ,afraid of the criminal shelling by kiev forces in their cities.

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    Post  gregoire Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:17 pm

    @Vann7

    Kiev propaganda seems to work well on the mariupol brainwashed masses. I bet they run when the NAF comes rolling in. Maybe better for them.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:53 pm



    Interesting mercenaries have Novo forces.. Here is a
    Belarusian Female SNiper. Shocked



    The Nazis claimed she was killed by them.. but later
    she uploaded a video to proof she was alive... however
    she seemed more Sad in the last video... seems the war have
    affected Her.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1756220.html
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    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:00 pm

    Good for her (that she is still alive).

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