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    Libyan Crisis

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    Post  Isos Tue May 26, 2020 4:56 pm

    That's a su-35...

    There is no proof that the planes are from Russia neither who bought them because russia won't give them for free neither who operates them or fly them.

    US are not trustfull sources.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 26, 2020 5:15 pm

    Isos wrote:That's a su-35...

    There is no proof that the planes are from Russia neither who bought them because russia won't give them for free neither who operates them or fly them.

    US are not trustfull sources.

    Image is correct

    Pair of VKS Su-35s were escorting MiG-29s and Su-25s to Libya but they didn't stick around, they are back in Hmmeim AB now

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    Post  Isos Tue May 26, 2020 6:10 pm

    I know about the su-35. Those images are all fake. How would have they taken pictures of them ? F-35 isn't that stealth ...

    The migs were bought by UAE and Egypt. US are trying to involve Russia when it's actually their allies that are fighting their proxies there.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 26, 2020 6:40 pm

    With the 4 x Su-35 QRA and the big radar/SAM? site, does the second photo look like Hmeimim to anyone else?


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    US Military command in Africa is going all out with this releasing photos of #Russia aircraft.

    Signals both US shift to expose Russian role in #Libya which now appears to stand at odds with US (Pentagon)



    LIBYA
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    Russian fighter jets were recently deployed to Libya in order to support Russian state-sponsored private military contractors (PMCs) operating on the ground there. The Russian fighter aircraft arrived in Libya, from an airbase in Russia, after transiting Syria where it is assessed they were repainted to camouflage their Russian origin. “The world heard Mr. Haftar declare he was about to unleash a new air campaign. That will be Russian mercenary pilots flying Russian-supplied aircraft to bomb Libyans,” said U.S. Army Gen. Stephen Townsend, commander, U.S. Africa Command.


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    Aldin
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    confirms that #Russia Air Force MiG29s from Russia via Syria ended up in #Libya. They stayed in Syria where they were repainted in order to camouflage their origin.



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    "The Russian fighter aircraft arrived in Libya, from an airbase in Russia, after transiting Syria where it is assessed they were repainted to camouflage their Russian origin."



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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 26, 2020 6:51 pm

    The number 1 and the Arabic writing have been photoshopped on.

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    Images of Wagner mercenaries in Al-Qurayyat region https://libya.liveuamap.com/en/2020/26-may-images-of-wagner-mercenaries-in-alqurayyat-region
    via @farajshitaw1
    #Libya


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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 26, 2020 6:56 pm

    A pair of Su-24 hiding from the sun on Sunday.

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    Su-24? (24 May 2020)


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    Post  ahmedfire Tue May 26, 2020 7:08 pm


    RT Arbaic has published these news :

    RT: #LNA MiG-29 warplanes attack a Turkish commercial ship in the port #Tripoli, and a Turkish Navy frigate in Libyan waters.
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    Post  Isos Tue May 26, 2020 7:41 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    RT Arbaic has published these news :

    RT: #LNA MiG-29 warplanes attack a Turkish commercial ship in the port #Tripoli, and a Turkish Navy frigate in Libyan waters.

    I saw a picture taken from the Libyan coast of black smock on the sea yesterday. Maybe this is the source of this tweet.

    However nothing official has been said so it could be a fake image leading to tweets using it as a source.

    If it was the case we would hear more informations.
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    Post  ahmedfire Tue May 26, 2020 8:35 pm

    However nothing official has been said so it could be a fake image leading to tweets using it as a source.

    It's a proxy war ,many sides are involved there and anything could happen and not published .

    ...

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    The speaker of the democratically elected parliament #HoR Aguila Saleh received a phone call from the Russian Foreign Ministry Lavrov.


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    Post  Isos Tue May 26, 2020 10:17 pm

    Isn't it one of the first SMT upgraded mig-29 (not the same SMT used by russia) ?

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue May 26, 2020 10:44 pm

    Isos wrote:Isn't it one of the first SMT upgraded mig-29 (not the same SMT used by russia) ?


    Could be from Belarus or Serbia .
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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 26, 2020 11:42 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Isos wrote:Isn't it one of the first SMT upgraded mig-29 (not the same SMT used by russia) ?


    Could be from Belarus or Serbia .
    Highly likely to be ex Belarus Mig-29C 9.13 as per the analysis here

    https://twitter.com/DanielUrchick/status/1263941514088112139
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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 27, 2020 1:10 am

    Stopover with friends

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    It seems likely that a USN P-8 was around to photo what went on. Seems quite a lot as it turns out.

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    This photo from the @AFRICOM
    release shows a RuAF Su-34 fighter-bomber in ferry configuration (PTB-3000 underbelly fuel tank and two R-73/AA-11 short-range AAMs). Deployed to Libya as well, or escorting the ferry flight alongside the Su-35s?


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    Tu-154 formation lead. Passenger/cargo aircraft normally provide navigation and comms support for RuAF fighters on international ferry flights. US DoD photo.


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    Post  ahmedfire Wed May 27, 2020 1:37 am

    Downed Turkish drone , could be a suicide drone .

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed May 27, 2020 9:02 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Isos wrote:Isn't it one of the first SMT upgraded mig-29 (not the same SMT used by russia) ?

    Could be from Belarus or Serbia .

    Not Serbia, we don't have airplanes to throw around especially not MiG-29s

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    Post  Cheetah Wed May 27, 2020 10:06 am

    With the 4 x Su-35 QRA and the big radar/SAM? site, does the second photo look like Hmeimim to anyone else?

    It's definitely Hmeimim. Cross-referenced it with google maps and the layout is identical.
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    Post  Isos Wed May 27, 2020 11:33 am

    Someone on twitter said GNA may be supplied by Turkey of a modernized S-125 to potect Tripoli. I wonder if it's true and they have no one able to operate it, they would need trained operators.
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    Post  ahmedfire Wed May 27, 2020 1:22 pm


    lol1
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    Post  GarryB Thu May 28, 2020 4:15 am

    Hahahaha... first of all that is not unsafe... second... now we know where all the photos of Russian aircraft going to Libya came from.

    Regarding Wagner.... I have a lot of sympathy for Mikes view here... ask an american what a short barrel AK-74 is and they will likely tell you it is a Krinkov... ask an american fanboy to identify an I-16 fighter plane and half will call it a Geebee racer... and the other half will call it Rata (the rat).

    It is possible that the Wagner might be the last name of the CEO of the company or it might just be bullshit... a fictional counterpart to Blackwater.

    Of course that is not to say ex Russian soldiers don't do contract work, but it becomes amusing that Wagner is everywhere and doing everything and has no competition... almost insinuating that it is Putins little private army... like Blackwater was being used by the Americans and still is...
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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 28, 2020 1:15 pm

    A shot of one of the 'unbranded' Mig-29 on its stopover in Syria. One of the thread posters says it is not a 9.13. Any view here? Who's cammo is it painted in?

    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1265933579441315840/photo/1

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    Geo located stand that its on, albeit an Su-24 sitting there normally.

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 28, 2020 1:25 pm

    That just looks like a typical cold war mid 80s camo job for the MiG-29 to be honest.... including the black paint in front of the cockpit and the radar nose colour... I think I have a plastic model that should have been painted those colours.... but with Red Stars on it...
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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu May 28, 2020 3:24 pm

    Now they saying it's up to 14 jets mig-29 and su-24 no numbers on what of each. Loooool.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/05/russia-flew-14-mig-29s-su-24s-libya-army-200527200442656.html
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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 28, 2020 5:26 pm

    Screen capture of Pantsir at Bani Walid. Photoshop?


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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 28, 2020 5:34 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Now they saying it's up to 14 jets mig-29 and su-24 no numbers on what of each. Loooool.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/05/russia-flew-14-mig-29s-su-24s-libya-army-200527200442656.html

    Not ours Gov! Honest!

    But if it turns out they are, they are only knackered old ones returned to service by dilligent workmanship and by much sweat of the brow. lol!


    BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:40 P.M.) – The Libyan National Army (LNA) spokesman, Colonel Ahmed Al-Mismari, denied on Wednesday that the military had acquired modern fighters recently. Al-Mismari said that old planes have been repaired by engineers and technicians of the armed forces and returned to service, stressing that they will enter the battles soon with full firepower.

    In a direct speech, he affirmed that the relocation of his forces had caused great losses among the “reconciliation forces”.

    Al-Mismari stressed that the Turkish intervention has become larger, and has become a dangerous escalation, explaining that they are ready to address this interference, as he indicated that swarms of Turkish planes are arriving in Misrata.

    He pointed out that Al-Wefaq forces used civilians as human shields in the Ain Zara axis, south of the capital, Tripoli.

    The U.S. military command in Africa “Africom”, has claimed that “Moscow has transported aircraft to Libya to support Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, commander of the Libyan National Army.”

    Russia, in turn, has repeatedly denied accusations of involvement in the Libyan conflict, describing allegations of the presence of Russian mercenaries there as empty allegations, stressing that it stands with the peaceful settlement of the conflict in this country, and maintains contacts with the two conflicting parties.

    Later, the Pentagon spokesman, Jonathan Hoffman, said that at least 14 Russian-made warplanes might be in Libya. Hoffman answered during a press conference a question in this regard, saying: “With regard to the number and types of aircraft, I do not have accurate data, but there is about 14 Su-24 and MiG-29 fighters at the moment. This is all the information I can share with you.”

    The United States had previously claimed that Russia was facilitating the transfer of fighters from Syria to Libya, while the Russian side has repeatedly denied such statements, which Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov described as rumors.

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