they r not in the RF & PRC inventories, & won't be effective against low flying JASSMs anyway. Its stealthy airframe makes it extremely difficult to defeat.Such long range cruise missiles could be shot down with S-125s and would not be an enormous challenge really.
at >700-800km away from their targets, I doubt they'll be shot down; if modified unmanned old C-130s r used, their crews will be on the ground, other planes or on ships.The loss of C-130s might matter to their crews.
They could fly from Australia &/ Hawaii, supported by tankers. Also, FYI,C-130s still have to operate from airfields so any airfields these C-130s are taking off from will likely be targeted by China with ballistic or cruise missile attack to stop the flow of subsonic cruise missiles.
Modified C-130 floatplanes r coming up for W. Pac ops: The development of a removable amphibious float modification for an MC-130J would enable "runway independent" operations, which, ..would extend the global reach and survivability of the aircraft and Air Commandos. "Seaborne operations offer nearly unlimited water landing zones providing significant flexibility for the Joint Force,"...Utilizing the MAC capability may provide unlimited operational access to waterways to distribute forces if land assets are compromised. "We believe MAC will be able to be used by our sister services, allies, and partners on various C-130 platforms... Further, expanding the operational use of an amphibious aircraft alongside other innovative tools will provide even more complex dilemmas in future battlespaces for our strategic competitors."
many assets already been moved; if it wasn't worth it, that capability wouldn't be invested in. Planes r more mobile than ships, & they don't need large flight & ground crews. China has a huge fleet of Maritime Militia operated fishing boats that would be used around Taiwan too.China does not have more ships than the US Navy has missile tubes... considering the shift in US focus they could move some of their fleets operating in different locations to the Pacific if there were any real expectations of a conflict.
it's called "the death spiral"; but until 6 gen. fighter ACAVs replace them, they'll have to foot that bill.I remember a congressman saying that he was disgusted at the price of the F-15 and that never again will America ever spend 20 million dollars on a fighter plane.... HAHAHAHAHA... he was of course right... because they have never been that cheap since... but he meant it was too expensive for what it was... which led to the F-16 and F-18 programmes of lighter cheaper fighters... except they weren't cheaper at all.
if they were failed fighters, why prohibit their export even to UK, Japan, SK & Israel? r the F-4/15s they operate/d failures too?They can pour more money into failed products all they please...
so, it wasn't good enough w/o extensive mods even for the Indians. No wonder they bought those Rafales instead!India was never part of the Su-57 programme. It was part of a programme to create a new heavy stealth fighter based on the Su-57, but when they realised all the changes and modifications they wanted made to the Su-57 like better stealth and two seats... they would have to pay for themselves...
even Finland ordered 64 F-35s for $9.4B, & Morocco Wants F-35 Fighters To ‘Ward Off’ Algeria That Plans To Acquire Russian Su-57 Jets.
Finland can always get JAS-39s & Morocco can get Eurofighters or F-15/18s.And lets see how wonderful these two countries think these planes are after 10 years of service...
the US doesn't stand still & upgrades/develops the means to deal with them.The obvious problem there is that S-400 can shoot down ballistic tactical nuke delivery platforms, and crossing the nuclear threshold against S-400 users like China and India and Turkey and Russia means they can then respond in kind... considering US SAMs can't deal with Iranian BMs, what are their chances against BMs and other weapons from other countries?
If the Su-57 was that good, China would be buying them to complement the J-20s, like they got the Su-35s.
if they did, we would hear about it; don't underestimate their ability in judging fighters!Who said they are not negotiating to buy a batch?
The Soviet VMF had 800km range supersonic Granit AShMs for years, but that didn't scare the USN from sailing the oceans & seas around Eurasia. Dozens of C-130/17s can release 100s of decoys/chaff to overwhelm their radars before they or others drop JDAMs & CMs on them. Besides, they could send attack helos & UAVs with LRMs.They should include that in the advert to sell S-400s... so powerful that the US would resort to nuclear weapons in their presence... because all the other systems and weapons of that super power are impotent...
Lastly there is The GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb that could be modified for stand off use.
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