I still think it would be cheaper and easier to use a missile with what ever propulsion you put on a MiG-41 to get it to fly in space.
Put it this way: a space interceptor could handle much more intense attacks than the one you refer. That would be the advantage
The Russian combination of a turbofan and a ramjet, plus the heat resistance technology to operate at such speeds will be the basis for the next step of hypersonics... but an order of magnitude cheaper and easier because the temperatures will be lower and ramjets are mature technologies unlike scramjets.
Then you are developing a technology that was abandoned by the SR-71 long time ago and does not apply to scramjets... how is that the basis for hypersonics? Sorry but I am understanding it quite weird
Just like the Blackjack and Backfire are much cheaper and more affordable than if they had tried to make them mach 3 bombers instead of mach 2.
Exactly. Mach 2 instead of 3 is cheap, from 3 M onwards it gets tricky it seems
Hell it might have a flight range of 10,000km at super cruising mach 1.8 or 2... that would be good enough for rounding up cruise missiles...
Oh my god GarryB, how the fuck is the plane going to have 10,000 km range at 2 M? You have stretched that too much man
What are the dangers you are referring?
Well a conventional aircraft like a MiG-31 has two big engines at the back to push it forwards and lots of control surfaces that redirect the airflow over them to exert force to yaw and roll and otherwise manouver...
Ok I see. Of course you would need rockets instead of aerodynamic surfaces. Russians are quite apt at TVC nozzles, that would help also.
That is what they say AFTER the Tu-160 was restarted... in the beginning it was planed to replace also the Tu-160!
...It was going to be too expensive to restart the Blackjacks and the force of 15 was not large enough to be viable.
Personally I am happy with the result... it is the best for Russia.
It was going to be too expensive until they realized how expensive the alternative would be and what a beast bomber they already had developed.
What I meant is that they were all convinced they wanted the PAK-DA to do everything until they discussed deeper the requirements and saw they needed a supersonic missile carrier and that it was already available. The case with the Tu-160 and MiG-31 has some similarities to me, because the MiG-31 is still in a category of its own as the Tu-160 and therefore deserves more efforts to modernise it IMHO.
Also the collage of requirements we read about point out to a early stage of conceptual development of the MiG-41 rather than an imminent development.
The MiG-31 is best in its class... just look at the little picture below my username... but they can now do better, and would benefit from doing that...
It will be a real Firefox...
BTW that one was also originally going to be Mach 4 or 5 right?
If you can get away with heat resistant aluminium then you get strength and heat resistance, but also low cost... and ease of maintenance... talk to the US about the cost of operating the SR-71 an all titanium aircraft...
Being able to use a turbofan and ramjet combination means you don't need exotic risky technologies... they might make a PD engine too so they have some options, but a standard engine and ramjet combination should be good enough for Mach 4.2.
Cheap and simple... if they wanted mach 5 then they might need scramjets and it would take 5 years longer and cost 10 times more... making it useless for the purpose of defending russia...
this way they get a good plane cheaper and faster and later they can upgrade it with newer engine designs.
It will be the very first 4 M aircraft and it is supposed to be used in the hundreds... it would be risky technology already with that speed!
Put it on the nose of a rocket to test it... they tested ramjet engines by sticking one on the nose of an SA-5 SAM in place of the warhead in the 1990s... after it accelerated to mach 5 or so under its own rocket power, the scramjet engine lit up and accelerated the entire missile (minus the solid rocket boosters which fall away when used up) from mach 5 to mach 6....
Yes, there is always a way. But remember this is going to be a huge plane, do you want to test a model instead of the real one... at some point the shortcuts work no more
Well actually no, it did force them to upgrade the fleet of MiG-25s to minimise the information collected, but when Belenko defected they were already working on the MiG-31...
Ok I see, thanks
I would say this programme will be funded by the Aerospace defence forces...
You mean apart form the air force? The aerospace defence forces are not tasked with missiles and radars?