Gomig-21 wrote:Isos, the French actually removed the SYLVER A70 VLS for the Aster 30 leaving it only with the Aster 15. They also removed the NETTUNO-4100 jamming equipment because of some export limitation on sensitive equipment. At any rate, even though it is intended to have both Aster 15 & 30, it only has the former in Egypt's case. That was one of the issues that caused friction and ended up cancelling future Gowind & FREMM acquisitions. You can read that on Wikipedia it's all on there in the equipment the French removed. It was a big stink in Egypt a lot of TV shows were talking and complaining about it.
Meanwhile the Italian FREMMs will operate both missile systems and even though they also removed sensitive NATO communications equipment, they offered to replace it with another including a satellite to assist in all the GPS Comms needs. That was a huge difference between the Italian offer and the French. Plus the Italian FREMMs are equipped with AESA radars unlike the French FREMM.
There was a long story with the SCALPs and it's kind silly when you think about it because they refused the Aster 30 on the FREMM but agreed to sell 50 SCALPs with 300km range?!?!
At any rate, lobbing land attack missiles onto Israel is far from what Egypt is looking for. I honestly think the Buyan class frigates would've been a difficult sell and the EN was certainly interested in them as I provided in that article because they want to diversify the entire fleet. That's the primary reason and not just to have ability to land attack Israel. Hey, the way Egypt is spending on military equipment -- and especially with Russia -- you never know, it could still happen and like you said, one of the naval assets being used by Russia in this exercise is in fact a Buyan class missile frigate.
AFAIK Egypt didn't request Aster-30 to be deployed on the French Fremm .
The ship (Normandy ) was basically assigned for the French navy but to catch with the Egyptian deadline the French handed over it to Egypt after some modifications which were requested.
The Sylver A70 was on Normandi for launching the Naval MdCN with 1000 km range (also can launch Aster-30) ,so it's logically to be removed if Egypt didn't request to use it for another purpose . (Morroco has the same thing )
Egypt could have made the request to replace the 16x Sylver A70 with a second row of A50 model in order to deploy up to 32x ASTER 15 SAM. Or to replace the A70 VLS with A43 model and the FREMM would be able to launch up to 16x VL MICA missiles in addition to the 16x ASTER 15.
An even cheaper alternative would be to leave the 16x A70 cells in place since they can launch ASTER 15 missiles as well so the FREMM would then be able to deploy up to 32x ASTER 15.
My explanation is Egypt may be has prefered to wait for a version of French cruise missile with a range that match with the MTCR then could ask to recover the space that was occupied by the Sylver A70.(Morroco may will do the same thing )
They already have tested a 250 km missile this month .
French Navy successfully fires MdCN naval cruise missile from FREMM frigate Bretagne