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    Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:38 am

    Why does India need to sell MBRL to Ukraine when they already have access to an unlimited supply of HIMARS and ATACMS missile.

    This hasn't aged well.

    Because 250 million buys you a lot of Russian rockets and shells, but buys about 30 American rockets or shells... if you can get any that is...

    Funny the US going apeshit over the idea that China or India or North Korea might supply Russian with weapons or ammo, yet it scours the globe looking for countries to sell them Soviet arms and ammo that they can pass on to Kiev.


    Baku is accumulating heavy military equipment near the Lachin corridor.(between Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh)

    It says heavy but shows old BTRs in the photo...

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    Post  Firebird Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 am

    If Russia has a choice between the 2, then I think its time they gave the kebab shop twats in Baku a good hiding.
    And Terdogan really doesn't understand the meaning of the phrase "knowing his place".
    Esp given that under the Americans and without Russia's help he would have been well and truly dead after the coup attempt.
    Terdogan is an ungrateful little snake.

    The Armenian Republic of the Russian Federation would make perfect sense to solve all this.
    And perhaps Azerbaijan can be "de Communised" if it doesn't get the message.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:36 pm

    Give Azerbaijan an ultimatum stop this nonsense both sides agree to resolve the entire issue once and for all, or the other option as u mentioned Armenia becomes a Republic of Russian Federation. Because what is apparent is any open long standing issues around the globe the USA likes to meddle, by having these issues remain unresolved gives USA options if one project fails it just moves on to the next, USA won't stop.

    I suspect after the Ukrainian war is done and dusted and the obvious victory for Russia ex Soviet countries may well stop any progress/close relations towards western countries. I always had this feeling some ex Soviet countries would be testing the water towards western countries as it saw Russia as a bit soft or not serious enough to take action. Uzbekistan tried and it failed, Kazakhstan clearly is trying but completely forgot that Putin saved his skin not so long ago. But after the Ukrainian war I seriously think they will have second thoughts about any western relations that could be seen as unfavorable moves by Russia.

    I think it's time Russia made a proper security alliance with ex Soviet countries with a simple yes or no your in or your out no sitting on the fence, and if your in you put an effort into it, if your out then face the consequences. And I think the same should happen on an economic alliance. Just my 10 pence worth lol

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    Post  Firebird Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:34 pm

    I may be wrong but I think Armenia's problems started when it had a pro American leader, evidently due to being payrolled.

    Strange given that Armenia was a key member of the Eurasian Union and the CSTO military alliance.
    Russia's solution in the Ukraine is to just let freed regions join Russia for the first time in over 100 years.


    The problem is that if countries are too "free" ie open to corruption by the US, they will end up in a Ukraine or Armenia situation.
    So the prevention is either join Russia OR have a strongman as leader OR have an enhanced Eurasian Union akin to the EU.

    I'm not sure which ones Russia and the rest of the CIS will choose for some places.
    Altho I think as much of the Ukraine as possible, plus Belarus definitely should rejoin Russia.
    Perhaps Kazakstan (or the Northern part of it) would be the next most important part.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:58 am

    Although Putin openly admitted that the fall of the Soviet Union was a tragedy I still don't believe that he wants to re-create the Soviet Union. I think he's happy if ex Soviet countries remain economic trading partners and cooperate on security concerns such as terrorism and intelligence sharing, and obviously don't get to friendly with western nations if all these are met then those ex Soviet countries can quite happily enjoy independence and do what they please. However if they don't and start allowing western governments influence, meddling, allowing bio labs, and talks about joining NATO then I think that puts Putin/Russia in a very awkward position and leaves them really no choice but to intervene and take drastic measures before the wests project gets to completion, Because once completed there is no going back. And Putin/Russia needs to protect itself and part of that unfortunately is creating a buffer and friendly nations on its borders. Like people on here and various experts around the globe have said there is no way the USA/UK would allow Russia to have hostile nations on their borders.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:22 pm

    Armenians are apparently showing their true colors after Rybar pointed out Pashinyans actions are anti Russian and anti Armenian.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:29 pm

    Suprised by an inch? Laughing
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:34 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Suprised by an inch? Laughing

    No. Armenians on here like to make excuses foe their shit leader all the time so no, not surprised at all

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    Post  Broski Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:35 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Armenians are apparently showing their true colors after Rybar pointed out Pashinyans actions are anti Russian and anti Armenian.
    They don't seem to understand that the only force keeping Azerbaijan and Turkey from annexing the entire country and turning them into a Turkish province is Russia (and Iran to a lesser degree) but there's nobody they disrespect and blame their problems on more than Russia. Personally, I'd be glad for EU/US stooge Pashiyan to kick Russian forces out the country so Turkey can finish what it started over a century ago, useless people.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:49 am

    Sometimes the best way to punish a child is to give them exactly what they want, but it is cruel for entire countries.

    When I started posting on this forum several Russian members were convinced that Europe was Russias future and that China was dangerous and could not be trusted...
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:51 pm

    Azerbaijan is not going to stop until they have ever square centimeter of Nagorno-Karabakh under their control. Just how it is. And after they accomplish that, they might start eyeing Armenia's own territories such as the Zangizur region that divides Azerbaijan from Turkey.

    And the Russian peacekeeper mandate ends in 2025. The Armenian leadership is already looking towards the Europeans/NATO to replace them and Pashinyan has only manipulated the situation to serve that goal.

    Russia's policies in the region now as over the last 20 years are mercenary and short-sighted and IMO doomed to fail.

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