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Militia Shoots Down Ukrainian Su-25 Attack Aircraft over Luhansk Region – Official
Militia Shoots Down Ukrainian Su-25 Attack Aircraft over Luhansk Region – Official
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #7
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The more the merrier!!!
- They didn't say what brought it down... Probably just a MANPAD.
- They didn't say what brought it down... Probably just a MANPAD.
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Mike E wrote:The more the merrier!!!
- They didn't say what brought it down... Probably just a MANPAD.
Most probably although they never say
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True, and the only time they mention it it is like this "plane brought down in eastern Ukraine by what appears to be a Buk system similar to what was used to down MH17"... - Not kidding I've actually heard that BS on MSM before!
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Mike E wrote:True, and the only time they mention it it is like this "plane brought down in eastern Ukraine by what appears to be a Buk system similar to what was used to down MH17"... - Not kidding I've actually heard that BS on MSM before!
i used to watch MSM for the laughs of it, but it got so retarded with the propaganda of wardrums oozing off of it its no longer even funny to see the twisted facts and lies being told.
everytime i go to a party or to friends somehow i end up explaining to them the weapon specifics of MANPADS and BUK's and how the two are two worlds apart in operation from eachother, and why me and others active in the millitary believe Kiev and the U.S are behind it. from dissapeared evidence and airtraffic controllers, MH-17 cockpit cannon impacts and additional cannon/shrapnell impacts on its wings, "deleted" BBC eyewitness interview describing MH-17 turning away while having an jet-fighter flying around it, and the Russian radar-data showing an jet fighter intercepting MH-17 and supporting the deleted bbc interview comments. and meanwhile the Ukraine and U.S showed no bit of evidence.
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I agree...
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- Same thing here... I used to watch just so i could get the perspective that "most people" get and accept, but it overwhelmed with all the lies, propaganda, and outright crap!
- Once again, same thing... I feel like a lot of people here in the US just can't accept that their country is corrupt and "abusive" to other countries!
- Once again, same thing... I feel like a lot of people here in the US just can't accept that their country is corrupt and "abusive" to other countries!
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Vann7 wrote:The american mercenary retard fighting in Ukraine ,that VICE public relations ukies media interviewed is being reported today was killed.
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- Post n°759
Украина готовится к обороне по линии Славянск – Мариуполь !!??
arpakola Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:07 am
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1742185.html
Украина готовится к обороне по линии Славянск – Мариуполь
Украина готовится к обороне по линии Славянск – Мариуполь
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This is very interesting.. now its revealed by the Spanish guys ,helping Novo militian ,why Strelkov was removed from his position.. Ok things go like this.. Even thought all the novo militia fight the nazis.. there is Huge Divisions in the political scene in Novorossiya.. There are COmmunist , Socialist and Capitalist.. Strelkov and Guvarev and all the heroes who are leading the fighting are from the left , and hardliners.. they do not want to negotiate with Kiev..
They want victory or nothing. In the other Hand there is a group lead by the Billionaire "anti Fascist" more or less,called Akhmetov and with many supporters in Moscow. that was very worried at Strelkov/Guvarev and all others leftist Communist/Socialist popularity and that if they defeat Kiev.. they will be the new leaders in eastern Ukraine and that they will implement communism or socialism and will nationalize all Private Business ,leaving without their business to the Oligarcs . So the Oligarch -Akhmetov and a group of soldiers militia that is under his influence was pushing for a negotiations with kiev Federalization of eastern Ukraine in change for ending the war.
So what is happening in Eastern Ukraine is that the bastards Oligarch elite.. prefer to put a risk the future of all eastern ukraine by negotiation with Kiev ,a Pact with them.. (full knowing the Kiev cannot be trusted and at the first opportunity they will backstab The novorossiya people. So the Oligarchs desperation is so high for they losing their status of Rich elite..that they are ready to take the Huge Risk of negotiating with the Nazis in kiev that are under control of the west. So what happened in eastern Ukraine was a political peaceful but hostile coup.. a political coup lead by the Oligarch and they removed Strelkov from all leadership positions. Naturally Strelkov is the Hero of the Revolution and he understand is not the time for starting a political fight with Donetsk Administration.. So he said nothing and allowed his position to be taken.. For the sake of maintaining the focus of all their troops in the battlefield. . But the Spanish people say.. that the Leftist factions are the soul and hands of the revolution and the efforts of the Oligarchs to save their business ..(from being nationalized by the communist or socialist) will not work. They say the People of Donetsk and Lugansk the average civilians are really tired of Oligarchs being in power and that the Leftist will win and novorrosiya civilians will backup them.
The situation is still very dangerous in the political front. .because the Oligarch could try to sabotage any military victory of strelkov and Guvarev. So we will see what happens but as now apparently Strelkov is not in any important position now.. the the Oligarch and his minions are still pushing for a negotiated federalization of Ukraine so that they can continue being Elite and keep their business.
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This is huge.. 
IF the information is correct.. New information released ,not only show the kiev junta forces have been pushed back again from most of their fronts.. But that also there are BIG Major operations behind enemy lines.. all the way to
Kharkiv and Slaviansk.. That Sabotage groups are successfully Ambushing Ukie convoys and they captured new
Artillery.. here are the tweets.. from Recent information to older one.. in hours ..
and the best for the last.. The parents of the ukie soldiers , are not very happy about the events
in eastern ukraine ,Grab your popcorn because if Poroshenko do not end the war ,he will experience the
same fate of Gadaffi . People will wipe the streets of kiev with him.
83 Fighters of the 30th Mechanised Brigade return to Nowgorod-Wolynski to confront
their Military Leaders with the Question why they were sent «into certain death»
IF the information is correct.. New information released ,not only show the kiev junta forces have been pushed back again from most of their fronts.. But that also there are BIG Major operations behind enemy lines.. all the way to
Kharkiv and Slaviansk.. That Sabotage groups are successfully Ambushing Ukie convoys and they captured new
Artillery.. here are the tweets.. from Recent information to older one.. in hours ..
https://twitter.com/tony_hartin
Selection of his tweets today:
#Ukies tried 3 times yesterday to take #Ilovaisk and were 3 times repulsed. They say #NAF have chains of connected concrete bunkers. right
#Ukies confirmed yesterday the loss of 1 Su-25, 1 Mi-24 and 1 Mi-8. They were shotdown by #NAF west and south of #Lugansk
In #Lugansk region #Ukie tactical group with 24 tanks partially took the village of #Malonikolaevka
3h: #Kharkov #partisans attacked a #Ukie column capturing two Grads. At #Lozovaya the partisans fired with Grads on another #Ukie column.
3h: The Minister of economy of #Ukraine Pavlo Sheremeta resigned #ukrainecrash
5h: Reports that today a #Ukie aircraft was shotdown over #Novosvetolvka as well as the two Mi-24's shotdown over #Geogrievka
5h: #Ukie Donbass & Azov Batt units repulsed with heavy losses driven out of #Ilovaisk. #NAF fully control the city & captured many spoils
7h: #Ilovaisk: While #Ukraine Donbass and 93 Brigade are surrounded inside the city. Azov, Dnjepr & Shakthersk battalions have withdrawn.
8h: #NAF almost cleared #VeselayaGora and begin battles for #Shchastia #Lutugino & #Slovyanoserbsk
9h: Lifenews carries the story on Mi-24 shootdowns, at #Geogrievka near #Lugansk http://lifenews.ru/news/138727 via @Alexsligo
10h: Reports of two Mi-24 helicopters shotdown near #Lugansk
11h: #Ilovaisk #Ukie #Donbass batt as well as 17th tank & Dnepr-1 unit surrounded by #NAF and under #NAF Grad fire from #Shakhtersk
20h: CONFIRMED #NAF at #VeselaHora #Luhansk oblast area in position t cut supply of all #UKraine units around #Luhansk city- MAJOR MOVE #cdnpoli
12h: indiscriminate #Kiev shelling of #Donetsk last night killed 34 civillians, total killed in Donetsk - 951 with 1748 wounded #warcrimes
13h: #Kiev regime FinMin #Shlapak says #Ukraine needs more money beyond IMF assistance (they already stole all that). "Donor" conf in September
14h: #NAF Cossack units made several attacks in #Slavyansk overnight. #Ukie tanks APCS & troops destroyed. A Ural AA gun, mortars & ammo captured
and the best for the last.. The parents of the ukie soldiers , are not very happy about the events
in eastern ukraine ,Grab your popcorn because if Poroshenko do not end the war ,he will experience the
same fate of Gadaffi . People will wipe the streets of kiev with him.
83 Fighters of the 30th Mechanised Brigade return to Nowgorod-Wolynski to confront
their Military Leaders with the Question why they were sent «into certain death»
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http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_14/Ukrainian-Su-25-military-aircraft-shot-down-in-Donetsk-region-by-local-militia-8602/
Aircraft dropping down left, right and center.
Aircraft dropping down left, right and center.
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Vann7 wrote:
and the best for the last.. The parents of the ukie soldiers , are not very happy about the events
in eastern ukraine ,Grab your popcorn because if Poroshenko do not end the war ,he will experience the
same fate of Gadaffi . People will wipe the streets of kiev with him.
83 Fighters of the 30th Mechanised Brigade return to Nowgorod-Wolynski to confront
their Military Leaders with the Question why they were sent «into certain death»
Gaddafi was murdered by NATO blackops and mercenaries not by his own kind. Lybia had far higher living standards what Ukraine has ever seen in its 23 years even 80% of Europe don't have even equal living standards and only absolute minority of the so called rich/wealth countries have such a living standard.
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Сводки от ополчения Новороссии
21.08.14. Сообщение от штаба ополчения.
"За период с 8 по 15 августа Армией Новороссии на всех фронтах было захвачено: Т-64 - 18 ед., БМП всех моделей- 24 ед., БТР всех моделей- 11 ед., БРДМ - 2 ед., БМД - 9 ед., РСЗО "Ураган" - 2 ед., САУ 2С4 "Тюльпан" - 2 ед., САУ 2С9 "Нона" - 2 ед., САУ 2С1 "Гвоздика" - 10 ед., минометов 82-мм - 6 ед., ЗУ-23-2 - 3 ед, автомобилей - 44 ед."
Официальная сводка от ВСУ Украины.
"В общей сложности с 20 июня по 15 августа в ходе проведения АТО, сепаратисты захватили у ВСУ: Т-64 - 65 ед., БМП - 69 ед., БТР - 39 ед., БРДМ - 2 ед., БМД - 9 ед., РСЗО БМ-21 "Град" - 24 ед., РСЗО "Ураган" - 2 ед., САУ 2С4 "Тюльпан" - 2 ед., САУ 2С9 "Нона" - 6 ед., САУ 2С1 "Гвоздика" - 25 ед., Д-30 - 10 ед., минометов 82-мм - 32 ед., ЗУ-23-2 - 18 ед, автомобилей - 124 ед."
Novorussian army from July 20th to August 15th capture quite a lot of Ukrainian armor and artillery. They could equip full brigade with this equipment.
Сводки от ополчения Новороссии
21.08.14. 16:20. Сообщение от ополчения.
"Только что поступила информация, что отряд Безлера захватил у укров 4 единицы 203-мм. САУ Пион."
Для наглядности размещаем фото САУ "Пион" ниже.
Today Bezler's unit capture 4 2S7 Pion 203 mm howitzers. Together with 2S4 Tulpan and Uragan MLRS, they could form heavy artillery battery.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/392523
Киев подтвердил заявление ополченцев о сбитом Су-24М
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21 августа 2014 года 14:31
Москва. 21 августа. INTERFAX.RU - В Луганской области возле поселка Новосветловка 20 августа был сбит военный самолет Су-24М, который возвращался после выполнения задания, сообщил представитель информационно-аналитического центра СНБО Андрей Лысенко на брифинге в четверг.
Оба пилота катапультировались, добавил Лысенко.
Смотрите оригинал материала на http://www.interfax.ru/world/392523
Kiev confirm loss of UkrAF Su-24M near Novosvetlovka in Lugansk region, both pilots ejected.
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Werewolf wrote:
Gaddafi was murdered by NATO blackops and mercenaries not by his own kind. Lybia had far higher living standards what Ukraine has ever seen in its 23 years even 80% of Europe don't have even equal living standards and only absolute minority of the so called rich/wealth countries have such a living standard.
Oh yes.. i know..
I was saying like Gaddafi in the sense of how he was killed by a mob on people angry against him.. but yes i know those who killed him were NATO paid mercenaries ,with many foreigners.. but in the case of Poroshenko if he do not
stop the war he will end on the streets of kiev ,beaten to death by his own people. If elections were today and were
Fair , I don't think any of the political junta will survive. This is why Ukraine situation is dangerous on political level ,is very vulnerable to a coup.. If Poroshenko killed and the head of the army too..there will be a civil war in no time.
and the army will disband. The parliament will not backup Any Poroshenko pro faction ,specially when he is already saying will disband them.
The Britist journalist is again in Novorrosiya covering the war.. People are really starving for food.
Update..
#Russia is moving humanitarian #aid into #Lugansk without #Kiev's permission "We can no longer stand this outrage" Russia says.
About FUcking time.. Kiev is always looking for ways how to take advantage of any good initiative of Russia for helping civilians.. Every cease of fire promoted by Russia was used by Kiev for military . Russia simply move their trucks inside eastern Ukraine in Rebels controlled zones and send a truck to every zone in Lugansk and DOnetsk.. civilians cannot wait the junta in kiev with their masters to have any compassion for the civilians women and children starving and about to die for lack of humanitarian help.. Russia should now increase also the weapons support more than ever and use the trucks . If the west give sanctions to Russia for sending humanitarian to civilians ,US and the EU will discredit themselves on world image. World Opinion is today with Russia.
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The Belarusian army moves dozens of 2S3 #Akatsiya "towards Ukraine"
Banderistan position right after Grad attack.
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more good news..
It also have been reported that the ukies are starting preparations for a major retreat to Slaviansk and Dnepropetrovsk in case they have to do it.. because their offensive have nearly stalled in most fronts .
What up with Belarus? Are they going to help Kiev to punish the eastern Ukraine militia and help with their
own army?
https://twitter.com/tony_hartin #Ukies are digging trenches on the outskirts of #Dnepropetrovsk and preparing to move #Mariupol administration to there #Russian Foreign Ministry can no longer tolerate \"such lawlessness and outright lies" from #Kiev. #Aid going in with Red Cross involvement #Russia is moving humanitarian #aid into #Lugansk without #Kiev's permission "We can no longer stand this outrage" Russia says #NAF announce they fully control #Ilovaisk #Yasinovataya & #Peski witk #Ukies in retreat from all three cities, with heavy losses wrote:
Of course there is no respite until #Ukie artillery is taken out. A #Kiev MoD insider revealed that Ukies have lost 1/2 their artillery
It also have been reported that the ukies are starting preparations for a major retreat to Slaviansk and Dnepropetrovsk in case they have to do it.. because their offensive have nearly stalled in most fronts .
The Belarusian army moves dozens of 2S3 #Akatsiya "towards Ukraine"
What up with Belarus? Are they going to help Kiev to punish the eastern Ukraine militia and help with their
own army?
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What up with Belarus?
Most likely it's just a common army maneuvers, not related with anything special. A unit go to the firing ground, for example. Anyway, it's moved towards the western part of Ukraine, if I'm correct
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13 UKR soldiers fell POW, Manuilivka and Petrovska
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Look at what kiev junta and their army terrorist operations have done today..
#Poroshenko's #ATO: Young woman killed by #Ukraine regime shelling in #Lugansk #Novorossiya
Extremly graphic.. civilians women and children killed by Poroshenko army shelling.
#Poroshenko's #ATO: Young woman killed by #Ukraine regime shelling in #Lugansk #Novorossiya
Extremly graphic.. civilians women and children killed by Poroshenko army shelling.
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That last map picture.. doesn't look good.. seems the ukies in the airport managed to open a big hole and connect
to the main front line.. hope is not grave.....
on other news the RUssian Humanitarian convoy already moved inside Ukraine. Russia could not wait
for a cease of fire or security to improve since Ukraine army continue shelling non stop.. so had to go alone with the Red Cross escorting them..
Update..
That map is old.. Look at the new map.. Aug 22 2014..
Definitively one map is death wrong... Because they are very different.. The one You posted for example ARpakola..
shows the Airport siege lifted.. and the one i posted still show the airport under siege. The map i posted appears to be more accurate.. but no idea really .. I just hope Russia send 5,000 of their special forces in Big numbers to allow the Novorossiya militia go on the offense in all fronts and secure the humanitarian aid and push the ukies farther away ..and help to wipe the Forces in the Airport.. A couple of Iskander missiles there will totally wipe the ukies holding the place or TOS-1 heavy artillery.. will burn alive the ukies in the airport..and will surrender withing minutes the ukies surrender as soon they feel the warm touch of TOS-1 artillery.
I don't think the nazi ukies holding the airport will handle the fire on their Positions with TOS-1 artillery.
Their trenches will not protect them from the thermobaric reaction.
to the main front line.. hope is not grave.....
on other news the RUssian Humanitarian convoy already moved inside Ukraine. Russia could not wait
for a cease of fire or security to improve since Ukraine army continue shelling non stop.. so had to go alone with the Red Cross escorting them..
Update..
That map is old.. Look at the new map.. Aug 22 2014..
Definitively one map is death wrong... Because they are very different.. The one You posted for example ARpakola..
shows the Airport siege lifted.. and the one i posted still show the airport under siege. The map i posted appears to be more accurate.. but no idea really .. I just hope Russia send 5,000 of their special forces in Big numbers to allow the Novorossiya militia go on the offense in all fronts and secure the humanitarian aid and push the ukies farther away ..and help to wipe the Forces in the Airport.. A couple of Iskander missiles there will totally wipe the ukies holding the place or TOS-1 heavy artillery.. will burn alive the ukies in the airport..and will surrender withing minutes the ukies surrender as soon they feel the warm touch of TOS-1 artillery.
I don't think the nazi ukies holding the airport will handle the fire on their Positions with TOS-1 artillery.
Their trenches will not protect them from the thermobaric reaction.
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Evidence of using chemical bombs by ukrainian army
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32 700 poroshenko merc destroyed (of which 12k prisoners) - in Sunday they will be showned as prisoners of war while at the same time poroshenko will with 1.5k troops organize parade
in Kiev (ppatetic)
destroyed equipment:
destroyed mercs:
Ukrainian junta losses exceeded 32 thousand people
Id say, Strelkov knows his stuff !
in Kiev (ppatetic)
destroyed equipment:
- 2 MiG-29
- 1 aircraft of unknown brand - 30 July
- 2 AN-26 aircraft
- 1 reconnaissance aircraft AN-30
- 2 aircraft - IL 76
- 16 Su-25 (Su-25, one captured in LC 7 July)
- 1 aircraft SU-25 (Poland) - August 20
- 7 of the Su-24
- 6 drones
- 20 combat helicopters ("Mi-24", "Mi-17" and "Mi-8")
- 2 combat helicopter "Mi-24" (Croatia) - August 20
- 319 T-64
- 7 T-72 tanks
- 19 T-84-U "Hold"
- 2 tanks "Bulat"
- 5 Hammer (1 captured on August 8, together with the American)
- Jeep
- 25-66 Gas
- Gazelle
- Staff car
- Mobile crane
- 1 ZIL 131
- 2 KrAZ
- 58 Ural trucks
- 69 Kamaz
- 4 UAZ 469
- 5 SAU Nona
- 5 SAU 2S3 "Acacia" (1 captured on August 18)
- 3 ZU 23-2
- 20 units MLRS GRAD
- 11 units MLRS Hurricane (4 captured August 15)
- 45 howitzer D-30
- 30 122 mm mortar
- 163 BMP
- 125 BMD.
- 312 BTR "
destroyed mercs:
"The total loss punishers in the Donbas from 2 May to 21 August 2014 - 32 th. 702 people , of which 20 thousand. 274 people - dead, wounded, 418 - and 12 thousand prisoners. 10 deserters and missing "- leads figures on the page "VKontakte" political scientist Igor Panarin.
Ukrainian junta losses exceeded 32 thousand people
Id say, Strelkov knows his stuff !
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