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    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:15 am

    Palestinians Outraged as Israel Destroys Historic Muslim Graves in Jerusalem



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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:14 pm

    George1 wrote:Palestinians Outraged as Israel Destroys Historic Muslim Graves in Jerusalem



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    Post  Airman on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:05 am

    Trump recognises Jerusalem as Israel's capital

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    Post  George1 on Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:01 am

    UN General Assembly passes resolution against recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital

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    Post  starman on Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:50 pm

    George1 wrote:UN General Assembly passes resolution against recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital

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    Among Americans, this should be a time for serious reflection. Something must be wrong, if our Mideast stance leaves us this isolated. What caused this great disconnect between the US and the rest of the world? The zionist lobby....
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:48 pm

    How Saudis can even claim to be followers of Mohamed nowadays is beyond me.

    ‘Only Game in Town’: Saudi Heir Allegedly Urges Abbas to Accept US Peace Plan

    Mohammad bin Salman has held talks with Mahmoud Abbas to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian conflict amid the heightened tensions over the US decision to recognize the whole city of Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish state.

    The heir to the Saudi crown has tried to convince the president of the Palestinian Authority to accept the peace scheme proposed by the United States, the Middle East Eye media outlet reported citing official sources close to the negotiations.

    According to officials, Mohammad bin Salman underscored that Washington was the "the only game in town," saying that no other power could pave the way toward a peaceful resolution of the decade-long standoff between Israelis and Palestinians.

    "The US is the only one with real influence on Israel, it's the only country that can put pressure on Israel in any peace process and no one else can do [that], neither the EU, nor Russia or China," the crown prince was quoted as saying.
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201712241060281431-saudi-crown-prince-abbas-us-peace-plan/
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:24 pm

    Israeli warplanes hit 10 Hamas targets in Gaza Strip in response to missile attacks

    Two missiles were launched on Israel out of the Gaza Strip on Saturday evening

    TEL AVIV, June 3. /TASS/. Israel Defense Forces planes struck 10 Hamas targets in the Gaza Strip on Sunday in response to missile attacks, the army press service said in a statement.

    "A few minutes ago, Israeli Air Force fighters hit 10 terrorist targets operated by Hamas at three military camps in the Gaza Strip," the document says. "Among the targets are two arms production workshops and a munitions depot owned by Hamas, as well as a military base." The military added that the strikes were made "in response to the launch of missiles, as well as other terrorist activity, carried out under Hamas’ orders," including attempts "to inflict damage to security infrastructure and set the Israeli territory on fire."

    Two missiles were launched on Israel out of the Gaza Strip on Saturday evening; one of them was intercepted by Israel’s Iron Dome air defense system, while the other fell inside the Palestinian maritime enclave, the military reported earlier. Another missile was intercepted by the Israeli air defenses on Sunday.

    On May 29, Palestinian radical group members fired more than a hundred missiles and projectiles on Israel, injuring three soldiers. The Israeli Air Force attacked about 70 targets on the territory of the Palestinian enclave in response, first striking Hamas and Islamic Jihad Movement installations. The attacks stopped in the early hours of Wednesday morning, May 30. According to media reports, ceasefire agreements were reached with the active participation of Egypt, but were violated on Saturday evening.

    The Israeli military stated in a press release on Sunday that the Hamas movement is responsible for all acts of aggression that originated from Gaza, which is controlled by it. "If the Hamas terror organization decides to continue to use terror instead of solving the problems of the Gaza civil population, it will continue to pay a great price for it, that will be increased if needed," the Israel Defense Forces reported.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:15 am

    Fifty-three people injured in Gaza rocket fire

    Israel's emergency service Magen David Adom said two people are in a critical condition

    MOSCOW, November 13. /TASS/. /TASS/. The number of people injured in Gaza rocket fire has grown to 53, with two persons in a critical condition, Israel's emergency service Magen David Adom (MDA) said on its Twitter microblog on Tuesday.

    "From 16:30 until 01:15, MDA teams are on highest alert and have treated 53 injured, including; 2 in critical condition (a soldier) from shrapnel and a 60 year old woman, 1 moderately injured, 23 injured lightly, 27 people suffering from stress symptoms," MDA said.

    On Monday militants in Gaza fired rockets and mortars at Israel. On November 11, Israel carried out a military operaiton in the south of Gaza. Seven members of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Hamas organization that controls the Gaza Strip, were killed in the raid, including one commander.

    The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reported that fighter jets, military helicopters, drones and tanks delivered air strikes on more than 70 military targets of Hamas and Islamic Jihad groups in Gaza. According to the IDF, Gazan militants fired over 300 rockets and mortars at Israel on Monday.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:15 am

    Israel strikes over 70 military targets in Gaza in response to rocket fire

    On Monday, militants from Gaza launched over 200 rockets at Israel

    TEL AVIV, November 12. /TASS/. Israeli forces have struck over 70 military targets in Gaza, the army press service said on Monday.

    "Throughout the day, terrorist organizations from the Gaza Strip have been launching rockets, aiming at Israeli civilians," the military said in a statement. "In response, Israeli Defense Forces' fighter jets, military helicopters, drones and tanks have struck over 70 military targets of Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza over the last several hours."

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    Israel strikes 80 targets in Gaza in response to Palestinians’ missile attacks

    Among the destroyed targets in Gaza were eight military training camps, military and observation posts, three terrorist tonnels, and a weapons workshop. Hamas terrorist organization is responsible for all events happenning or initiated in the Gaza territory, the army added.

    On Monday, militants from Gaza launched over 200 rockets at Israel. Sixty rockets were intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome air defense system. Ten people were wounded in Gaza rocket fire, doctors said.

    Israeli Defense Forces also confirmed that one servicemen was seriously injured. "Earlier today an Israeli soldier was seriously wounded in rocket fire from the Gaza Strip in the Sha'ar HaNegev Regional Council," the military said in a statement.

    The Israeli army has boosted forces near the Gaza border after the rocket fire, military spokesman Jonathan Conricus told a press briefing. "We already had considerable forces there but in light of recent events, we boosted forces with additional infrantry troops, defensive systems and intelligence units," Conricus said adding that Israel is ready to step up its efforts against Palestinian militants.


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    Post  George1 on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:25 pm

    Israel Begins Striking Hamas Targets in Gaza - IDF

    Earlier in the day, Israel Defence Forces (IDF) spokesman Avichay Adraee said that Israel sent two military brigades and a command centre to the border with Gaza.

    The Israeli army announced on Monday that it began striking Hamas positions in the Gaza Strip after a Palestinian rocket, fired from Gaza, had injured seven people earlier in the day.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201903251073526504-israel-hamas-gaza/
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:11 am

    According to officials, Mohammad bin Salman underscored that Washington was the "the only game in town," saying that no other power could pave the way toward a peaceful resolution of the decade-long standoff between Israelis and Palestinians.

    "The US is the only one with real influence on Israel, it's the only country that can put pressure on Israel in any peace process and no one else can do [that], neither the EU, nor Russia or China," the crown prince was quoted as saying.

    The US is not the only game in town because the US is more pro Israel than some Israelis... thinking they could ever get a good deal from the US is futile... the only game in town is violence and war sadly because it is the only way Palestine gets a say... and even then it is a bitterly one sided say, but why should war be any different from politics.

    The US has pushed through all sorts of laws and things regarding foreign influence on US elections... the Palestinians and anti Israeli forces in the US should use that to try to dig up Israeli influence in US elections... I am sure the Clinton campaign was like an overflowing cess pool of corruption.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:51 pm

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    Post  yavar on Mon May 13, 2019 10:10 am

    Palestine Gaza resistance retaliatory Badr_3 missile 250KG warhead range 40 KM

    he al-Quds Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad movement, has unveiled its latest domestic missile by firing it at targets in the Israeli occupied territories.
    The resistance group released a video on Sunday which showcased the new missile, dubbed Badr 3, before cutting to footage of it being launched at positions in the city of Ashkelon, which is located 50 kilometers (31 miles) south of Tel Aviv.
    The missile carried a 250-kilogram (551 lb) warhead, a major leap from its predecessor which had a much smaller 40-kilogram warhead.
    The video shows at least four Badr 3 missiles roaring into the dark of the night on May 4 and 5. Ashkelon is 13 kilometers north of the fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel.
    The al-Quds Brigades warned Israel that “what is coming next will be even greater.”
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/05/06/595233/Gaza-Islamic-Jihad-Israel-Badr-3-missile-Quds-Brigades-Ashkelon-attack


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    Post  George1 on Fri May 15, 2020 10:33 pm

    Jordanian King ‘Abdullah II warned Israel against annexing the West Bank region this Summer, stating that this move will undoubtedly lead to a massive conflict between them and the Hashemite Kingdom.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/king-abdullah-warns-of-massive-conflict-with-israel-annexes-west-bank/
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    Post  crod on Sat May 16, 2020 12:49 am

    George1 wrote:Jordanian King ‘Abdullah II warned Israel against annexing the West Bank region this Summer, stating that this move will undoubtedly lead to a massive conflict between them and the Hashemite Kingdom.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/king-abdullah-warns-of-massive-conflict-with-israel-annexes-west-bank/

    i really fear for the poor Palestinians now, it looks like the end game is approaching for them and their aspirations.

    also, the Jordanian f-16s will be no match for the kike versions. they spent way too much on american military hardware, it might come back to bite them should there indeed be a conflict.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat May 16, 2020 4:19 am

    Well I have to say it is nice to see some countries in the region standing up to the Israelis and their annexation of land that was never theirs.

    The difference in reaction between Europe and the West regarding the democratic shift from semi Autonomy to becoming part of the Russian Federation for the Crimea, and the Israelis deciding to annex territory they have no rights or claim to is amusing...

    In this age I rather suspect having the best fighter plane is not always going to cut it... drones and cruise missiles are becoming a balancing factor... how will Israel deal with a large scale attack on their cities via drones and cruise missiles... I am sure Iran would be open to helping Jordan...

    Obviously a real conflict will be bad for all involved, but does Israel really want to drop a burning match into this tin of petrol?

    There is more at stake than just Israels eyebrows...
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat May 16, 2020 4:39 pm

    drones and cruise missiles are becoming a balancing factor..

    Israel has more far cruise , drone ,AD and EW capabilities than Jordan . It will be a mistake if jordan started war alone against Israel .
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    Post  nomadski on Sat May 16, 2020 8:31 pm




    Agree. But to stop expansionist move by Zionist , I don't think the entire Arab and Islamic world needs to go to full scale war. All they need is to show unity and a small action. One missile each from All Arab and Islamic states into empty Negev desert. Simultaneously. Followed if needed by same action, this time economic target. Like radio mast. Water storage. Empty ship in harbour.........
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat May 16, 2020 8:57 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    drones and cruise missiles are becoming a balancing factor..

    Israel has more far cruise , drone ,AD and EW capabilities than Jordan . It will be a mistake if jordan started war alone against Israel .

    Trust me those benighted anachronistic monarchies will fold like a bad hand of cards, they won't bust a grape, or lift a finger to harm a single hair on any Israeli's head. This is all bluster from Jordan; all their weapon deals are done through the U.S., no major weapon deals from China or Russia. [/thread]
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat May 16, 2020 10:04 pm

    nomadski wrote:


    Agree. But to stop expansionist move by Zionist , I don't think the entire Arab and Islamic world needs to go to full scale war. All they need is to show unity and a small action. One missile each from All Arab and Islamic states into empty Negev desert. Simultaneously. Followed if needed by same action, this time economic target. Like radio mast. Water storage. Empty ship in harbour.........

    The Arabs and Islamic countries are not united in such actions . Morroco and Algeria are preparing for the next conflict between each other . Syria is bleeding.Gulf countries has Iran as their first enemy and don't care much about Israel . Turkey and Iran have no interests in such conflict and Pakistan is far to support .Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel and trying to build her economic .

    It's not hard to launch a huge attack against Israel , it's a small area and can't withstand two months of war .Their facilities can be easily targeted from it's neighbours but the main problem is the US and the west who will do anything to save Israel . Israel also has Nuks but in the absence of the west support ,Arabs can develop their own Nuks too to be in the safe side .Israel can't withstand against one nuclear hit but Arabs could bear multiple nuclear hits .
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat May 16, 2020 10:06 pm

    Trust me those benighted anachronistic monarchies will fold like a bad hand of cards, they won't bust a grape, or lift a finger to harm a single hair on any Israeli's head. This is all bluster from Jordan; all their weapon deals are done through the U.S., no major weapon deals from China or Russia. [/thread]

    Yes sure but we can't blame them , the west is sitting and ready to launch a huge attack against anyone who attack Israel .
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    Post  nomadski on Sat May 16, 2020 11:43 pm

    Yes agree. Everybody is too busy. But still worth a try. Send secret diplomat to discuss a provisional date for symbolic strike. Turkey has Muslim sympathisers. Erdo will be hero overnight. Iran can hold head high, more retaliation for Soliemani. There are PMU in Iraq, they were hit by Usrael strike. Time for little payback. In Pakistan there are Muslims, who hate yank drones and by extension Usrael. Yemen offered to hit them with cruise recently. And Egypt can maintain that the Zionist broke peace agreement by annexation. And throw a single missile.

    But agree that Saudi will never do anything. Or the monarchy in PG. Or as you said rest of North Africa. But Syria threw a scud. Recently. Could do again. Without Russian approval of course. And Lebanon could throw a few. They used ATGM recently in border for retaliation. Not to mention the Palestinians....


    Now how many missiles is that, if each country sent only one?  As far as nukes. Forget it. Usrael does not have strategic depth to use them. It is like nuking themselves. The lines of contact are so close. And not easy using nukes. They could not use them before......... The west can only do stuff, because Muslims not acted in unity. When it comes to taking sides,  if all Muslims united, then  they are bigger asset  to west than little Zioland. They will keep out.


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    Post  George1 on Sun May 17, 2020 12:55 am

    Personally i am surprised that Hashemite Kingdom made such a statement
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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 17, 2020 5:41 am

    If Jordan is forced to back down and ignore Israeli annexations then this is going to seriously change its international relations I suspect.

    I would think they got in to bed with Saudi Arabia and the US because they thought it makes more sense being a mouse in the main house than the king of the gutter in the street outside.

    Israeli basically ignoring Jordan like this and the US obviously supporting her no questions asked might lead to a shift in Jordan away from the US and saudi arabia... but then saudi arabia is getting pushed by america too... imagine of saudi arabia and jordan did what Turkey is doing and start looking elsewhere for alternatives to the US because the US clearly does not give a damn...

    Ironically that would be more dangerous for the US than just a ballistic missile launch and a hissy fit.

    Jordan and possibly Saudi Arabia turning to Russia or China or Iran is the equivalent for the US to the Baltic States and Ukraine and Georgia joining HATO... not that I think suddenly SA and Jordan will suddenly jump in to bed with Iran... is it really that much different from Turkey buying S-400s and looking at Su-57s now that F-35s are clearly off the table. The Russians developed an export version of the Su-57 for a reason... it would not make sense for them to not sell them...
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    Post  nomadski on Sun May 17, 2020 11:12 am

    Not that I do not support Russia, in trade with world and ME. I do. A multi - polar world, will be a better world. But simply saying weapon sales by Russia to Saudi or Jordan, will somehow help Palestinian cause, does not follow. Look at Syria. All the Russian weapons there, can not be used even in defence against Zionist. Since Russia or China or America, do not exist in the same political dynamic, as do Muslim states in ME region. A lot of the political leadership in ME region also exist in subservient role to world powers. But they have to satisfy the political street. Over Palestinian issue. The present forces that are most free to strike at Usrael, are not buyers of weapons from anyone. They manufacture. Like Hezb forces and Yemen forces and Iran. So in reality, it becomes question of political leadership. From Liberal dependant states to independent national forces. I have said before that Russia and China and Iran, are best fostering national forces. In politics. In domestic manufacture. Weapons. They may not make as much money in short term. But they will make more money in long term. Since these states will trade with them. Fall out of yank sphere of influence. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life. I know that for example papadragon sees my presence here as useless. Since I only buy lampshades for my house. Not Russian weapons. But GarryB, was more patient. Something will come of it. I know this forum is also sales opportunity. But sell self sufficiency in  industry. Sell them how to make weapons. Sell them teachers and machine tools. By being strong then they will be independent and free.

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