Werewolf wrote:arpakola wrote:
there he is ..
Here in germany there is a new Newspeech method trying to discredit people. It is called "Putin understander", if now someone has understanding or wants to understand a foreign president is now a bad guy someone who is supposedly a warmonger.
heh, yes and no my friend. There are simply a lot of Russians living here. You have to keep that in mind as well. To speak fluently German, it's not required to be a ethnicaly German. I've got a plenty of Russian friends alone in the university I study. It's a bit more complex than how you want to portray it. Those people are as active on the net as we two are. Just look at all the facebook activity alone. People are people. They've got brains and feelings, emotions and affiliations. To claim they are all payed ( though you can't simply rule out that there could be a lot of such organized groups on both sides that would be operated in said countries, not here ) is redicilous. The people are just expressing their own opinion and of course want to promote their countries more than NATO or USA or EU and thus try to justify the actions of their countries and try to discredit the opposing side. That's absolutly natural. It's real life. Germans themselves are anything from being really politicaly educated ( I see that myself ) rather confused on who to side with and both the pro-West and pro-East propaganda are trying to take advantige over it. This is the problem with Germans: they are kinda like they disapprove what's going on over there but have no clue what is actualy going on. In general US is seen as warmongerer because of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc and people are aware of their propaganda and also assume they had their hands in that Ukraine affair, but that's not realy relevant. What is relevant to them is that a full scale war might break out that's why they don't approve that the West is going for a standoff with Russia. After all it's a pretty cozy life here, you've got a home, heating, job, benefit from no supply shortage. After all they needed decades to achieve that. But criticising US for trying to "police" the world, when something happens in Africa like the Boko Haram thing, they are like "What is US waiting for ? send in troops allready !" <- that are Germans. Confused, no clear position and that's because lack of political education. Just confront them on topics like Lybia for example or Saudi Arabia.
But to topic. I like the fact that both sides love to boast like they were the fully righteous man in the room. - allways pathetic to watch. It looks so damn silly, loosing all respect. If you want people to respect you at least do it better than the opposing side and be honest. Sad.
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