Airbornewolf wrote:the general opinion here in western europe is shifting more and more towards Russia as well....its just the political elite and NATO here that are dancing to the tunes of the White house.
Not at all.
'The West' is all about elites
You know that no matter how disillusioned one becomes with the policies of the elites, if given an order ONE HAS TO go and fight for the said elites.
That's how 'The West' works. That's how it prospers. That's how they sponsor 'revolutions' - by buying out or corrupting the ruling elites
They couldn't care less about the plebs
, be they Russian, Ukrainian, American, Dutch or Macedonian. Everyone should know their Modus operandi
by now. This world is getting fckued over by them a little too much...
And now they're PUSHING FOR WAR WITH RUSSIA. It'll not end well, this.
thats true, but do not expect much of a NATO response. remember NATO is pretty much out of ammunition supply's after iraq/afghanistan and libya. bombers where forced to use training-bombs of concrete to strike their targets when they ran out of explosive ordinance. in 2008 we already had problems in Afghanistan with ammonution as we continuesly exceeded our supplies and it needed to be purchased first and flown in with Russian-rented aircraft. our european munition reserves where reaching depletion.
America can yell all they want with: "supporting our allies in europe". but fighting a war is not something you prepare for in a day, week or month. it takes serious investment and time to be ready. and NATO wasted their millitary potential and readiness on Afghanistan and Iraq. and i really cant see the goverments going to invest Bilions in NATO now while europe is in serious financial storms.
and troop morale is not what its used to be either, remember NATO troops been going to iraq/afghanistan for years now. they got war-weary after going again and again trough that meatgrinder, fighting is a part of the carreer of course. but only a retard does not realise what is going on and start asking himself if he wants to get hurt or die in a (at the time) an endless conflict without any real goals to achieve. it really felth like "congratulations!!, you survived afghanistan!. you go for another round in 1 year and again, all bets are off"
after two times i was done with risking my life for western elite politicans or the U.S. and with me a whole lot of other experienced NATO troops exited the service to pursue a job in the civilian life.
the real "backbone" among NATO's troops are long gone, what they hire now is the bottom of the barrel. unemployed, kids of 15 years old that cant punch a dent in a pack of butter promised they got an education of the Army, redneck trash, even criminals that are given a choice to either go to prison or go join the millitary. is that a proffesional army?, lol i call that desperatly trying to fill your ranks. even sargeants and luitenants nowadays are civilians that go trough a sort of amateur boot camp and have no idea of how it goes in the real army...or extention war. thats reckless and just plain amateuristic. NATO 2014
in 2006 i went on mission to afghanistan with iraq-hardened combat veterans that already knew what was comming, sargeants with experience that where once soldiers themselves, officers that threw the army handbook over their shoulder and had the motto "i do not care how you do it or what you wear, as long you do your job". but as years passed...more and more really good capable men left the service and where replaced by incompetent and unsuitable people like i described.
NATO will not survive a direct confrontation with Russia, not by conventional means. it would really be a freaking miracle but i actually expect the same result as what WW2 germany did with occupying europe if russia gets into an armed conflict.
and i have an "obligation" to report for duty when NATO calls on me. appearantly i signed that together with my first contract when i joined the army. but they can jail me for all i care, all i plan to defend is my own home with attached garden. everything outside my home they can do as they please.
but first....i would stand at the border with a bottle of good vodka and welcome our new Russian Overlords