Vann7 Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:09 pm
Lugansk .. Ukrainians leaving the base (again)
What you mean with Again ? are those the same ukrainian soldiers of a previous incident that were captured ..about 80..
that was reported by RT and their parents intervene to convince them to stop fighting? You mean they surrendered last week but returned again later to fight and surrender again? Or are this Ukraine soldiers from another base a new group that surrender?
on a side note notice how EVIL and clever is the CIA commanding the war in Ukraine.. they advice kiev to place the teens ,young conscripts to the front line in a military base bordering Russia ,the first ones that will have to fight the Russian army if they invade and used as meat shields ,and use their deaths later to demonize the Russian army.Those ukrainians are not soldiers ,they are high school students that were given a gun and forced to be soldiers overnight. But the American blackwater thugs fight on the last line.They never take too much risk in any war and if they can make others to fight for them and be for them in the front line they do it.
Russia has gone to the nuts I believe. They are thinking of payign Ukraine for Crimea and selling gass for 260 usd/bcm are they nuts what bull crap is this.. No wrote:
Is not in the interest of Russia to have Ukraine as their enemy forever , thats only in the interest of the exceptional US neocon empire and its allies. Think about this.. NATO zionist powers wants Ukraine and Russia to fight to become mortal enemies forever..and give Russia another afganistan and a bonus damage its world image and have a pretext to blackmail the EU to stop trading with Russia and sabotage its economy ,regardless if that damage their allies economy too. So helping Ukraine with discounts and money to end the Crimea chapter ,
is not bad at all. To see the US neocons Furious about a genuine process of peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia and see Victoria Nuland and all the crocks in the Senate Mad as hell and in horror of Ukraine befriending Russia..is worth of every penny.
Peace between Ukraine and Russia can only significantly Boost both nations economy. IF ever Ukraine and Russia make peace.. it will destroy all western plans to contain Russian and break its relations with the EU.
However Before Russia give any discount or money for crimea ,it will need to include the end of the War against Donetsk and Lugansk and the Federalization of all Eastern and southern Ukraine. Like Kharkov ,Odessa ,Mariupol . so that Pro Russian cities all have full autonomy and their own security and their own language and Governor that represent them ,with its own Media ,and its own laws ,independent of central kiev. Such a deal will be worth of every discount and money. The conflict in Ukraine is far from Donetsk and Lugansk.. even if the Anti Kiev fighters hold their regions and independence.. there still will massacres and people torched alive in other cities against Russians.
So negotiating for peace is really on the interest of Russia. Having to invade Ukraine with tanks in all Russian friendly cities to protect them from nazis will be far more expensive that any discount in gas.
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