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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 28, 2015 12:02 am

    Cucumber Khan wrote:
    Please show some acutal photographic proof of all these "F-16s" shot down. How can you say that the wreckage shown is an F-16, from Israel?. More likely an F-15. And Yemen is hardly "well-equipped" with "modern Russian weaponry". The MiG-29s were clearly non-active and were likely not even operational. And Buks? Where? When? Yemen ordered Tors in 2007, but how many were delivered, and if they were even operational, is unclear.

    any manpad can shot down even an stealth plane like F-22 fighter or B2..and F-35 ..Any plane with an engine that produce fire ,and fly at visual distance of the ground can be shutdown by a cheap manpad.. under trained people.. no problem.  

    Israeli F16’s Falling from the Skies over Yemen
    ,Two Israeli F16's, painted as Saudi, burning on the ground in Yemen, pilots "In the Wind"

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    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/25/additional-confirmation-of-yemen-nuclear-attack/

    Israelis though there were so superior ,that did not though their planes will hit by Yemenis last minute made soldiers with manpads. It is also worth to remember that Saudi Arabia does NOT have an airforce.. all their planes are used by foreign contracts pilots with experience.. because the Saudis does not trust in any of their citizens to give them a plane with bombs that could be
    used to liberate their nation from their Tyrannical rule.. So Saudis pay other nations to do
    the fighting..
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    Post  Manov Fri May 29, 2015 11:01 pm

    Is it a mini nuke or a ammo depot or something like that was destroyed?. Im in shock from the video (specially the one of the woman crying). Mini Nuke or Thermobaric, its a crime against the humanity to do this on a heavy populated area.
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    Post  mutantsushi Sat May 30, 2015 2:57 am

    Vann7 wrote:stuff
    The previous article is stupid even assuming F-16A were shot down, the article itself suggests multiple sources besides Israel, while giving zero evidence to back up Israeli connection.  If such a poorly sourced article came to conclusions you DIDN'T like, you would certainly denounce it, but as long as you like it, fabricating stuff out of thin air is just great?  Enjoy your bubble.  If you think about it, hack stories like this just displace the potential for REAL journalism to expose the REAL collusion of Israel and regional states.  But hey, infotainment for the masses, in your flavor of national-political orientation, so we don't even need to think! Yay!


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    Post  mutantsushi Sat May 30, 2015 2:58 am

    Manov wrote:Is it a mini nuke or a ammo depot or something like that was destroyed?. Im in shock from the video (specially the one of the woman crying). Mini Nuke or Thermobaric, its a crime against the humanity to do this on a heavy populated area.
    Mini nuke?  Are Saturday morning cartoons starting early?  Come on.
    The rest of your point is fine, but come on, this is a specialist forum, so throwing around "mini nuke" talk is ridiculous,
    and when you yourself don't seem to put actual credence to that, WHY BOTHER bringing it up in the first place?

    More broadly, it's just crazy that I hardly see this war reported in Western media, beyond the broadest scale reporting at diplomatic level...
    They could also show war crimes by Houthi and Yemeni military, as well as Saudi + proxy forces, but you really see very little at all...
    Even though the US is involved facilitating Saudia "and friends" attacks with tankers, ISTAR, etc...
    Of course any coverage MUST repeat ad nauseum the Saudi inspired "Iran backs..." angle...
    Never any reporting of details of Hadi "legitimacy", or exactly what led up to these events... Because Iran.

    I tried to follow some sources more critical of Houthis who like to say they also don't like Hadi...
    They end up circulating Saudi PR hyping Houthi prisoners/dead found with "witchcraft" inscriptions on them... WTF?
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    Post  George1 Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:36 pm

    Russia Could Help Establish Peace in Yemen – Iranian Deputy FM

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150604/1022958900.html#ixzz3cBsKb4L3
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    Post  George1 Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:24 am

    Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen

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    Post  max steel Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:40 am

    George1 wrote:Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen


    So finally PAC-3 american latest patriot was able to shoot down Scuds
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:44 am

    max steel wrote:
    George1 wrote:Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen


    So finally PAC-3 american latest patriot was able to shoot down Scuds

    Not surprising.  First time they tried they were able to shoot 1 of the 5 that Saddam launched down.  But this is a single missile that Houthis launched.  If they launched multiple, then chances are, 1 would get through while others would be shot down.  What it doesn't say is what system was used, how they were shot down and with how many missiles it took to take it down.  Such info will not ever be shared of course.

    Much like how Tochka U was supposedly shot down by Pantsir in Lugansk region in eastern Ukraine.

    Now the question is, which costs more? Scuds are cheap apparently, while PAC-3 are not. But I am very curious to see what the situation is and what the results are if they are ever released.
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    Post  max steel Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:11 am

    Isn't it funny that they were able to determine the missile houthi fired was a Scud-B but they can't tell which defense system was used by sauds to shoot it down . LUCKILY HOUTHIS FIRED SINGLE MISSILE . Cool

    PAC-3 costs 7.8 bilion $ .

    Saudis use Patriot Advanced capability air defense system only . In 2014 octobber , Raytheon received a $1.7 billion contract to upgrade Saudi Arabia’s Patriot Air and Missile Defense System to the latest Configuration-3. The award includes ground-system hardware, a full training package and support equipment upgrades. http://rt.com/news/192400-saudi-arabia-us-arms/



    By the way do americans use PAC-3 in their OWN defense systems or PAAC-4 ? or was it for israelis ?






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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:33 am

    max steel wrote:Isn't it funny that they were able to determine the missile houthi fired was a Scud-B but they can't tell which defense system was used by sauds to shoot it down . LUCKILY HOUTHIS FIRED SINGLE MISSILE . Cool

    PAC-3 costs 7.8 bilion $ .

    Saudis use Patriot Advanced capability air defense system only . In 2014 octobber , Raytheon received a $1.7 billion contract to upgrade Saudi Arabia’s Patriot Air and Missile Defense System to the latest Configuration-3. The award includes ground-system hardware, a full training package and support equipment upgrades. http://rt.com/news/192400-saudi-arabia-us-arms/



    By the way do americans use PAC-3 in their OWN  defense systems or PAAC-4 ? or was it for israelis ?







    Americans got various ones. THAAD and PAC-3 with maybe another one as well. One is for ships while the other is land and THAAD being different than the others. Apparently THAAD is pure ABM and not found outside US so it is quite special to US use.

    That said, not much is mentioned. I would like to know how many missiles from PAC-3 were launched to counter that SCUD-B. So if anyone has news on it, please share. My guess is that it was at least two missiles to strike it down. Which isnt far fetched or unbelievable.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:05 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    George1 wrote:Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen


    So finally PAC-3 american latest patriot was able to shoot down Scuds

    Not surprising.  First time they tried they were able to shoot 1 of the 5 that Saddam launched down.  But this is a single missile that Houthis launched.  If they launched multiple, then chances are, 1 would get through while others would be shot down.  What it doesn't say is what system was used, how they were shot down and with how many missiles it took to take it down.  Such info will not ever be shared of course.

    Much like how Tochka U was supposedly shot down by Pantsir in Lugansk region in eastern Ukraine.

    Now the question is, which costs more?  Scuds are cheap apparently, while PAC-3 are not.  But I am very curious to see what the situation is and what the results are if they are ever released.

    Not true, the first time was 1 out of 10 scuds, the actual percentage was around 7-8% interception rate against Scuds in Iraq, despite the constant and massive propaganda of Patriot success of being capable to intercept 94% or whatever high number they have propagated.
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:51 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    George1 wrote:Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen


    So finally PAC-3 american latest patriot was able to shoot down Scuds

    Not surprising.  First time they tried they were able to shoot 1 of the 5 that Saddam launched down.  But this is a single missile that Houthis launched.  If they launched multiple, then chances are, 1 would get through while others would be shot down.  What it doesn't say is what system was used, how they were shot down and with how many missiles it took to take it down.  Such info will not ever be shared of course.

    Much like how Tochka U was supposedly shot down by Pantsir in Lugansk region in eastern Ukraine.

    Now the question is, which costs more?  Scuds are cheap apparently, while PAC-3 are not.  But I am very curious to see what the situation is and what the results are if they are ever released.

    Not true, the first time was 1 out of 10 scuds, the actual percentage was around 7-8% interception rate against Scuds in Iraq, despite the constant and massive propaganda of Patriot success of being capable to intercept 94% or whatever high number they have propagated.

    Huh, I thought it was 5 Scuds that were launched. Anyway, that makes things worst.
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    Post  Cucumber Khan Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:08 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    George1 wrote:Saudi Arabia's air defense forces shot down a ballistic missile 9K72 (Scud-B), launched from Yemen


    So finally PAC-3 american latest patriot was able to shoot down Scuds

    Not surprising.  First time they tried they were able to shoot 1 of the 5 that Saddam launched down.  But this is a single missile that Houthis launched.  If they launched multiple, then chances are, 1 would get through while others would be shot down.  What it doesn't say is what system was used, how they were shot down and with how many missiles it took to take it down.  Such info will not ever be shared of course.

    Much like how Tochka U was supposedly shot down by Pantsir in Lugansk region in eastern Ukraine.

    Now the question is, which costs more?  Scuds are cheap apparently, while PAC-3 are not.  But I am very curious to see what the situation is and what the results are if they are ever released.

    Not true, the first time was 1 out of 10 scuds, the actual percentage was around 7-8% interception rate against Scuds in Iraq, despite the constant and massive propaganda of Patriot success of being capable to intercept 94% or whatever high number they have propagated.

    Huh, I thought it was 5 Scuds that were launched.  Anyway, that makes things worst.

    Not a single Scud was launched against Israel - they didn't have the range. The missiles launched were Al-Hussein missiles, an Iraqi modification that was so fragile that they broke up by themselves. Which is why it was believed at first that they were hit by Patriots.
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    Post  Book. Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:18 am

    Saudi air force strikes Yemeni rebels at the border


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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:07 pm

    Huthis captured Saudis' small arms

    12.7 mm sniper rifle PGW LRT-3
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    German 5.56 mm assault rifles Heckler & Koch G36
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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1333814.html
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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:36 pm

    Huthis ATGM "Metis" hit Saudi LAV-25. At 06:47

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:51 am

    George1 wrote:Huthis ATGM "Metis" hit Saudi LAV-25. At 06:47


    Lets see if the Saudi's like having their very own Afghan War, their own Vietnam War... Wink
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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:08 am

    George1 wrote:Huthis ATGM "Metis" hit Saudi LAV-25. At 06:47


    Aaaw, no Bradleys, how disappointing.

    I really wanted to see how it's legendary Mithril armour would hold up. Wink
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:53 am

    Good find George

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Lets see if the Saudi's like having their very own Afghan War, their own Vietnam War... Wink

    Can't say I feel sorry for them
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    Post  Book. Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:12 am

    Lav 25 no laser warn. no smoke?

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:35 am

    Metis is a wire guided missile... there would be no laser to set off any laser warning system...
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    Post  max steel Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:07 pm

    us dod scud review : http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Pentagon/dodscud.htm ( must read)
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    Post  George1 Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:18 am

    Israeli Media: Yemeni Rocket Attack Killed Saudi Air Force Commander

    A Saudi Arabian Air Force commander, reported to have died from a heart attack, was actually killed by a Houthi cross-border attack earlier this month, according to an Israeli intelligence and military website.

    On Wednesday, the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) quoted the following statement issued by the Ministry of Defense:

    "The Commander of Saudi Royal Air Forces Lieutenant General Mohammed bin Ahmed Al-Shaalan died today during a working trip outside the Kingdom due to a heart attack."

    The Saudi-based Arab News site similarly noted that the Air Force commander was on a "business trip outside the Kingdom" when he died, though no additional details were provided about the nature of the trip, its purpose, or duration.

    Following the announcement, conflicting reports have emerged about the cause and even time of Al-Shaalan’s death, with sources saying the general was killed by a cross-border Houthi rocket attack that took place on June 6, five days before the SPA’s announcement.

    According to Israeli military and intelligence news site DEBKAfiles, the general was killed when Yemen’s Houthi rebels launched a Scud missile attack on Saudi Arabia’s largest air base, King Khalid, in the southwestern region of Asir. The base has been used by the Saudi military for its airstrike campaign against Houthi rebels in Yemen.

    Reportedly acting on intelligence received from Iranian sources, Houthi fighters launched an attack in the middle of the night on June 6, firing several Scud missiles. Saudi sources insisted the attacks were intercepted by Patriot missiles, deployed on the base by the US to counter attacks from Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). However, the Arabic-language Al Mayadeen channel reported the Houthi missiles hit their target.

    DEBKAFiles additionally reported that the Patriot counter-missiles only intercepted two of the fired 15 rockets.

    The conflicting report falls in line with the official Iranian Fars News Agency, which similarly cited an anonymous Yemeni source in New York as saying "Shaalan was killed in the Yemeni army’s missile attacks against Saudi Arabia’s Khamees al-Mushait region five days earlier."

    DEBKAFiles contends that the Saudi government has concealed the real cause of Al-Shaalan’s death so as to "avoid affecting the morale of Saudi combatants taking part in the Yemen war."

    The Saudi-led airstrike campaign in Yemen began in March when the embattled Yemeni president Abdu-Rabbu Mansour Hadi enlisted the help of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) to counter the advancement of Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in the country.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150613/1023299182.html#ixzz3ctADppAz
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    Post  George1 Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:31 pm

    "Kornet-E" in Yemen

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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:09 am

    George1 wrote:"Kornet-E" in Yemen


    AlfaT8 wrote:Aaaw, no Bradleys, how disappointing.

    I really wanted to see how it's legendary Mithril armour would hold up. Wink

    The Houthis must've seen your post  Smile since the vehicles hit in the latest video are believed to be Bradleys

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