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    Post  hoom Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:30 pm

    Camera lens got a blessing too lol.
    Still a bit away from heading downriver by the looks of it but not too far away.
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    Post  Hole Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:43 pm

    Does the orthodox priest belong to the crew? lol!
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    Post  hoom Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:00 am

    On the way
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    So apparently the blessing was a 'complete & ready to head downriver'.
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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:53 am

    This priest is very powerful! respekt
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    Post  hoom Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:43 am

    There's been a bunch more reports recently about Stavropol getting Pantsir-M, supposedly the first Buyan-M to get it.
    I think its a mis-interpretation though, it makes no sense to just give it to the last of 12.

    There were quotes talking about improved radar/AA when they announced the order for the last 3 and I think its more likely that Pantsir-M upgrade is for all of those 3.
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    Post  walle83 Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:02 am

    What Fleet is the lastest vessel to join?
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    Post  hoom Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:59 am

    I think BSF unless they do some kind of shuffle sending more off to Baltic.

    (side point I recently figured out why translations often talk about ships 'going to the World Cup': Russian initials for Black Sea are the same as for World Cup, seen this with both Yandex & Google)
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    Post  miroslav Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:16 pm

    Is there any news on the latest Buyan-M and Bykov reaching the Black sea?

    It's been almost 3 weeks since they left the shipyard in Zelenodolsk.

    Edit:

    I just check out a possible route through the canals from Zelenodolsk down the Volga river to Volgograd, entering the the canals to the Don river and to the Azov sea, its not a short journey by any means. There are at least 20 locks to get through to get from Volgograd to the Sea of Azov. Definitely seams like a 3 week trip.
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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:30 pm

    There is also a lot of commercial travel, so... dunno
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    Post  hoom Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:56 pm

    Deperming at Novorossisk 27th Aug
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    For the record the 2 transferred Caspian & 1 BSF boats are currently off Syria.
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    Post  hoom Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:38 pm

    Returned to Sevastopol
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    Post  hoom Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:18 pm

    Interesting, Grad Sviyazhsk heading back up the Don Suspect
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    Back to the Caspian probably or could it be an inland transition to Baltic?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:15 am

    hoom wrote:There's been a bunch more reports recently about Stavropol getting Pantsir-M, supposedly the first Buyan-M to get it.
    I think its a mis-interpretation though, it makes no sense to just give it to the last of 12.

    There were quotes talking about improved radar/AA when they announced the order for the last 3 and I think its more likely that Pantsir-M upgrade is for all of those 3.

    testing of viability of new solution and if there is a need to add in reltively short time to all series?



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    It's been almost 3 weeks since they left the shipyard in Zelenodolsk.

    no wonder nobody knows - they are stealthy
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    Post  hoom Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:21 am

    testing of viability of new solution and if there is a need to add in reltively short time to all series?
    If its anything like the changes made to 22800 then it pretty much needs to be done during build, certainly a large rebuild if they retrofit.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:51 pm

    hoom wrote:
    testing of viability of new solution and if there is a need to add in reltively short time to all series?
    If its anything like the changes made to 22800 then it pretty much needs to be done during build, certainly a large rebuild if they retrofit.

    well 22800 form 3rd ship get Pantsir. Byuan series is actually ending now. That would be nonsense to add Pantsir to Buyan if this is not going to series.
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    Post  hoom Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:35 pm

    Well thats the thing.

    When they laid down the last 3 it was said they'll have upgraded radar & I think AA. (presumably Pantsir-M)
    Now they're apparently saying only the last of them is getting Pantsir-M which would be illogical.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:45 pm

    hoom wrote:Well thats the thing.

    When they laid down the last 3 it was said they'll have upgraded radar & I think AA. (presumably Pantsir-M)
    Now they're apparently saying only the last of them is getting Pantsir-M which would be illogical.


    cost cutting? but in strange place indeed. Byuans were originally designed for Caspian Sea where RuAF have air superiority thus AAD has secondary meaning. In Black and especially Mediterranean this is not necessarily the case. With Panstsir not drone / fighter below 20km can feel safe.
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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:36 am

    Maybe the yard is building Karakurts next and the last Buyan-M is a stepping Stone. The others will propably be upgraded later in their life.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:36 pm

    Hole wrote:Maybe the yard is building Karakurts next and the last Buyan-M is a stepping Stone. The others will propably be upgraded later in their life.

    This is also what I am hoping for.
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    Post  hoom Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:26 am

    Not just Grad Sviyazhsk went upstream but Veliky Ustyug as well, both now returned to Astrakhan.
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    Post  hoom Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:12 am

    Whups
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    Vishny Volochek towed back into Black Sea No
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    Post  miroslav Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:46 pm

    hoom wrote:Whups
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    Vishny Volochek towed back into Black Sea No

    I don't see a cable, plus, I don't think that they are going in one line.

    It's just because of the angle, that is what it looks like to me.

    EDIT

    Spoke too soon:

    https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2018/24209/russian-navy-brand-new-corvette-towed-through-dard/
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:33 pm

    miroslav wrote:.............
    EDIT

    Spoke too soon:

    https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2018/24209/russian-navy-brand-new-corvette-towed-through-dard/

    Engines?

    So when are we going to see those awesome new supercarriers? Razz

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    Post  hoom Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:36 am

    According to PPL at Balancer not the engines but a gearbox/es that didn't get oiled Shocked
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:53 am

    hoom wrote:According to PPL at Balancer not the engines but a gearbox/es that didn't get oiled Shocked

    Seriously?

    Busted engine seems like best case scenario in comparison...

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