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    The Yak-38 and the Kiev class cruisers

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:32 am

    1) What 's appened?
    2) Why the Yak takes off from the ship stern?
    3) Does the ejection seat of the Yak work also under the water??

    A two seat Yak attempted to take off from a kiev class carrier at sea.

    It is not the stern... there is no ski jump on Kiev class carriers.

    Seems to... there appeared to be two ejection seats launching, with one crewman landing on the deck... don't know where the other guy went.

    Likely an automatic ejection.

    I must have said it wrong. Fleet wasn't involved in Afghanistan. I meant there were no choice other than Yak's as CAS in case of a marine operation far from soviet airfields like Falkland war was for UK.

    Sorry I wasn't clear... the tests of the Yak in Afghanistan were to test it for the CAS role and if it had been successful it would have been mass produced for the Army and likely used in the navy in the light strike role for landing forces etc the way the AV-8 is used in the US Marines.

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    Post  Giulio Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:18 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    1) What 's appened?
    2) Why the Yak takes off from the ship stern?
    3) Does the ejection seat of the Yak work also under the water??


    It is not the stern... there is no ski jump on Kiev class carriers.
    Yes Garry, but on the Kiev class the flight deck is on the port side of the ship and the island is on the starboard: that pilot takes off with the sea on his right hand (?!), I don't understand.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:05 am

    I suspect the film has been reversed... presumably by accident.
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    Post  George1 Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:40 pm

    "The birth of carrier-based aviation": how vertical take-off and landing aircraft were developed

    https://tass.ru/opinions/12487617

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:47 pm

    By co-incidence George these popped up today.

    Capt(N)
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    #SovietNavy #ColdWar From an ”old shoe box”

    Description: The Soviet Union. Yak-38 attack aircraft and Ka-25 anti-submarine helicopter on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier "Kiev". Photo by D. Getmanenko /TASS Photo Chronicle/11.05.1987


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    3 Buccaneers running towards Kiev

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    Always rare...getting to see a Kiev launch her weapons, a P-500

    (Thanks to @Capt_Navy
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    And NATO navies complain about 'low' pass Russian aircraft? This was the RNoAF at work.

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    Allow me to piggyback on this thread a bitWinking face
    November 18, 1972, the first landing of the Yak-38 VTOL aircraft on the deck of the Project 1123 Kondor/Moskva class carrier Moskva made by the test pilot M. S. Deksbakh.


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    Higher def at https://twitter.com/Saturnax1/status/1441852331713200136

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:58 am

    "The birth of carrier-based aviation": how vertical take-off and landing aircraft were developed

    Birth of Soviet carrier based aviation, but a dead end technology that has been consigned to history... thank goodness.

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    Post  Mir Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:By co-incidence George these popped up today.

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    #SovietNavy #ColdWar From an ”old shoe box”

    Description: The Soviet Union. Yak-38 attack aircraft and Ka-25 anti-submarine helicopter on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier "Kiev". Photo by D. Getmanenko /TASS Photo Chronicle/11.05.1987


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    Of interest perhaps? The original picture actually shows a Ka-27 helicopter on the flight deck and not the supposedly Ka-25 as in the above caption from TASS. Probably still testing the Ka-27 back then.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:16 am


    Of interest perhaps? The original picture actually shows a Ka-27 helicopter on the flight deck and not the supposedly Ka-25 as in the above caption from TASS. Probably still testing the Ka-27 back then.

    The Ka-27 actually entered operational service before the west noticed it was a new and different helicopter with much better performance...

    I suspect TASS didn't want to tell them otherwise....
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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:26 am

    The TASS picture has a 1987 credit. By that time the Ka-27 was well known so it's probably just a typical media blunder. The Ka-27's first flight was in 1973 but entered service only in 1982 after a lengthy development period.

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