Russia - Algeria military contracts

LMFS wrote:

Flyboy77 wrote:Has there been any images of Algeria's New MiG-29M released yet? I thought we would of seen them by now.

Nice good find.

Flyboy77 wrote:Has there been any images of Algeria's New MiG-29M released yet? I thought we would of seen them by now.

MiG-29M2 fighter of the Algerian Air Force at the Production Complex No.1 of JSC "RSK" MiG "in Lukhovitsy

kinda hurts that mig-29 isnt as loved as it should be. what a beauty. we Americans used to make them like that.

MiG has got some very nice export contracts as of late, hopefully they get more from India and close the MiG-35 state tests and return stably to profitability. The new MiG-29 generation should allow to bridge the gap until a new plane is developed, maybe not with the best profit margins but if the ruble continues as massively undervalued as it is now they can crush the competition in terms of pricing.

JohninMK wrote:Rob Lee
@RALee85
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The other news is that Algeria signed a contract for 14 Su-34E fighter-bombers (apparently not Su-32) from OAK's NAZ. Mena Defence says the first 6 should be delivered this year, with the remaining 8 to be delivered in 2022-2023.24/
https://zhukvesti.ru/articles/detai

Apparently this has been denied:

https://en.topwar.ru/180913-v-fsvts-oprovergli-soobschenija-o-postavke-su-34-vvs-alzhira.html

LMFS wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Rob Lee
@RALee85
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9h
The other news is that Algeria signed a contract for 14 Su-34E fighter-bombers (apparently not Su-32) from OAK's NAZ. Mena Defence says the first 6 should be delivered this year, with the remaining 8 to be delivered in 2022-2023.24/
https://zhukvesti.ru/articles/detai

Apparently this has been denied:

https://en.topwar.ru/180913-v-fsvts-oprovergli-soobschenija-o-postavke-su-34-vvs-alzhira.html

Rob Lee is full of shit, no surprise here.

Delivery of Su-57 and Su-34 to Algeria received the first confirmation
13.03.2021

The sale of Russian Su-57 and Su-34 to Algeria received the first confirmation from Russia.

Despite the fact that information about the sale of Russian fifth-generation Su-57 fighters and Su-34 fighter-bombers to Algeria appeared quite a long time ago, only the day before did the first confirmation appear that Algeria is really armed with these combat aircraft.

According to the Russian news publication Zhukovskie Vesti, the first deliveries of Su-34E fighters to the Algerian Air Force will begin this year, and although information about the supply of Su-57 fighters to Algeria has not yet been commented on, the Algerian media previously stated that that Algeria and Russia entered into a contract specifically for the supply of these combat aircraft.

“First, a batch of 20 Su-34 aircraft will be built at NAZ, and then upgraded Su-34M aircraft will be built and handed over to the Russian military. It is assumed that in 2021 NAZ will build the first Su-34E aircraft for the Algerian Air Force. Algerian Air Force ordered 14 bombers Su-34E " , - said in a statement the publication" Zhukovskiye lead."

According to experts, deliveries of Su-57E fighters to Algeria may begin by 2025, when the mass production of these combat aircraft will reach full capacity, although no official comments on this matter have yet been made.

https://avia.pro/news/postavka-su-57-i-su-34-v-alzhir-poluchila-pervoe-podtverzhdenie?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

Avia.pro =

magnumcromagnon wrote:

LMFS wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Rob Lee
@RALee85
·
9h
The other news is that Algeria signed a contract for 14 Su-34E fighter-bombers (apparently not Su-32) from OAK's NAZ. Mena Defence says the first 6 should be delivered this year, with the remaining 8 to be delivered in 2022-2023.24/
https://zhukvesti.ru/articles/detai

Apparently this has been denied:

https://en.topwar.ru/180913-v-fsvts-oprovergli-soobschenija-o-postavke-su-34-vvs-alzhira.html

Rob Lee is full of shit, no surprise here.

It's a russian article that says that, not him.

LMFS wrote:Avia.pro =

Thanks for the tip. This os your second warning against this media. I'll try not to forget it next time.

Kiko wrote:Thanks for the tip. This os your second warning against this media. I'll try not to forget it next time.

Sometimes they are right, but my advice is that when you see them publishing something sensationalistic or far fetched, you can put that in quarantine until you see it published somewhere else... frequently they just make things up.

Rob Lee is ok considering that he's an American and the kind of company he has around. He isn't an anti Russian reactionary.

Serious ppl have jumped the gun on this deal rumor twice now.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

LMFS wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Rob Lee
@RALee85
·
9h
The other news is that Algeria signed a contract for 14 Su-34E fighter-bombers (apparently not Su-32) from OAK's NAZ. Mena Defence says the first 6 should be delivered this year, with the remaining 8 to be delivered in 2022-2023.24/
https://zhukvesti.ru/articles/detai

Apparently this has been denied:

https://en.topwar.ru/180913-v-fsvts-oprovergli-soobschenija-o-postavke-su-34-vvs-alzhira.html

Rob Lee is full of shit, no surprise here.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1371560115959128072

Russia's FSVTS denied reports that Russia has signed a contract and began production of Su-34/32 aircraft for Algeria. However, Russian officials also denied the first report about Egypt's purchase of the Su-35 in order to protect them from CAATSA.

Algeria has ordered 300 Russian-made BMPT-72 Terminator 2 fire support armored vehicles


https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2021_global_security_army_industry/algeria_has_ordered_300_russian-made_bmpt-72_terminator_2_fire_support_armored_vehicles.html

Algeria is after all, just one NATO intervention from turning into the post-apocalyptic shithole that is Libya right next door. Anyone in their position would be buying as much Russian arms as they could afford.

Tank level protection and fire power optimised for engaging enemy infantry and light armour... sounds ideal for a country fighting terrorists that don't have modern HATO MBTs...

miketheterrible wrote:Wow, Algeria is buying anything.

Hey as long as it keeps UVZ off Russian MoD's ass it's all good

Also, BMPT is actually perfect for that region, it's basically BaneBlade version of Toyota technical with infinite spare parts

Pity the fools who run into that thing in the flat desert

I think its the No1 customer of rusian weapons now

miketheterrible wrote:Wow, Algeria is buying anything.

I think your confusing Algeria with India or Saudi Arabia.

lyle6 wrote:Algeria is after all, just one NATO intervention from turning into the post-apocalyptic shithole that is Libya right next door. Anyone in their position would be buying as much Russian arms as they could afford.

Back in 2011-12 there were French politicians who jumped the gun (thinking Syria was already finished) and called for humanitarian bombing in Algeria, the problem was Syria wasn't finished and they let the cat out the bag. No doubt the Algerian leadership caught wind and reacted accordingly.

Also, I highly doubt the Western humanitarian bombers can replicate their work they conducted in Libya, Iraq or Syria, in to Algeria. They're too well armed and trained. Their Iskanders would wreck havoc on their naval fleets and on their invading ground forces. Similarly they have an air defence structure modeled like the USSR/Russia's IAD network. In fact, it's safe to say outside the CIS, Algeria has the military structure that most resembles Russia's.

Algeria is discussing 7b$ deal with Russia .

https://www.africaintelligence.com/north-africa_diplomacy/2021/07/01/army-chief-chengriha-turns-to-the-sahel-after-mammoth-russian-shopping-trip,109676958-art?cxt=PUB&utm_source=AIA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AUTO_EDIT_SOM&did=108397522&eid=628578

Behind a paywall....

What is interesting though at the top of this page are MiG-29Ms in Algerian colours... but everyone says Algeria rejected MiG-29SMTs and bought Flankers instead... so now with Su-57s and Su-35s available why would they bother buying those crappy MiGs again... unless the smaller lighter cheaper to operate MiGs might make sense even for countries smaller than Russia....

ahmedfire wrote:Algeria is discussing 7b$ deal with Russia .

https://www.africaintelligence.com/north-africa_diplomacy/2021/07/01/army-chief-chengriha-turns-to-the-sahel-after-mammoth-russian-shopping-trip,109676958-art?cxt=PUB&utm_source=AIA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AUTO_EDIT_SOM&did=108397522&eid=628578

It's going to be a fairly decent shopping list. Interesting to see what's coming