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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:35 pm

    As well as the 6 Algerian Su-24s there is an interesting collection of aircraft and parts in the picture.


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    #Russia began the modernization of the 1st batch of #Algerian front-line bombers Su-24.

    The 1st six Algerian front-line bombers Su-24 are being modernized at aircraft repair plant No. 514 in Rzhev. This was reported by the specialized portal MENA Defense.


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    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:57 am

    JohninMK wrote:As well as the 6 Algerian Su-24s there is an interesting collection of aircraft and parts in the picture.


    Seems the Algerians liked what they saw in Syria, with the SVP-24 Cool
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:59 pm

    Isos wrote:14 su57 +14 su-35 + 14 su-34 with option of 14 more for su-35 and su-34.

    Hard negociations took place for su35 and su-34. Algerians refused the export model of su-34, the su32, which seems to be very bad. The chief of their air force the major general Boumaiza, a former mig-29 pilot, tested the su-57 on simulator and decided to buy the plane.

    https://www.menadefense.net/algerie/lalgerie-serait-le-premier-client-export-pour-le-su-57-et-le-su-34/

    C’est désormais quasi officiel, l’Algérie aurait signé un contrat  pour l’acquisition de 14 chasseurs furtifs Su-57 et devient le premier client à qui le fabricant Sukhoï exportera ce fleuron de l’aviation de combat russe.

    Les forces aériennes algériennes auraient aussi signées deux autres contrats pour 14 bombardiers Su-34 et 14 appareils de domination aérienne Su-35. Une option pour deux autres escadrons de 14 appareils pour chaque type d’avion a aussi été signée pour palier au retrait naturel d’appareils de la flotte de l’armée de l’air à l’avenir.

    Le contrat devrait être achevé à l’horizon 2025, à cette échéance l’armée algérienne déploiera deux escadres de Su-30MKA, un de Su-57, un de Su-35 et un de Mig-29M2 pour la chasse, deux escadrons de Su-24 modernisés et un de Su-34 pour la flotte de bombardiers. La transformation des pilotes se fera avec les Yak-130.

    Pendant longtemps l’Algérie a négocié l’achat de Su-34 et de Su-35 avec des hauts et des bas dans la négociation et des exigences particulières. D’abord, pas de Su-32, la version export du bombardier Su-34, surtout après le retour d’expérience en Syrie ensuite un long débat interne sur l’option de prendre plus de Su-30 ou même se tourner vers un autre partenaire que la Russie, ou poursuivre la modernisation de la flotte avec Moscou.

    La décision a été tranché l’été 2019 après la visite d’une délégation algérienne au salon aéronautique MAKS à Moscou. Lors de cette visite conduite par le Commandant des forces aériennes le Général Major Boumaiza, le Su-57 a été examiné sous toutes ses coutures, l’ancien pilote de Mig-29 algérien a même été un des rares étrangers à essayer l’avion furtif russe sur simulateur. C’est lui qui aurait tranché sur l’avenir des acquisitions de l’armée de l’air après cinq années de tergiversations et de perte de temps. La montée en puissance de l’armée de l’air marocaine avec l’acquisition de 25 F-16 Viper et l’apparition de F-35 dans la flotte italienne ont motivé la prise de décision rapide de l’Algérie.

    Avec ce contrat, l’Algérie deviendra le premier pays de la rive Sud de la Méditerranée à disposer d’avions furtifs et d’appareils de 5e génération après avoir été le premier à introduire des avions de 4e génération.

    Des médias internationaux confirment aujourd’hui l’information sur l’acquisition des Su-57.


    If Algeria did order the Su-57 aircraft, I wonder why the Su-35 as well? They could have gone for more Su-57 instead. Su-34 makes a lot of sense especially replacing the old Su-24 eventually.
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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:13 pm

    If Algeria did order the Su-57 aircraft, I wonder why the Su-35 as well? They could have gone for more Su-57 instead. Su-34 makes a lot of sense especially replacing the old Su-24 eventually.

    They won't get the su57 for a long time as RuAF is the priority. Mig29 are also geting old and need replacement.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:As well as the 6 Algerian Su-24s there is an interesting collection of aircraft and parts in the picture.


    Seems the Algerians liked what they saw in Syria, with the SVP-24 Cool

    i read an article although cant find it now, it said that Algeria showed interest in Su-34 sometime ago but since then have decided not to pursue i wonder if thats because they decided to upgrade their Su-24. so Su-34 off the table for now.
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    Post  mnztr Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:29 am

    SU-24 is really an extremely capable platform. If gthe frames have low hours, with new avionics they are incredible capable machines with superb range and payload.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:36 am

    According to MENA Defense, Algeria received the first batch of BMPT-72 Terminators consisting of 60 vehicles.
    According to them, Algeria has placed an order of several hundred Terminators in 2018.

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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:51 am

    300 apparently....
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    Post  Flyboy77 Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:54 am

    Got this photo off Top Secret. Apparently it a mural on Algerian HQ building. Further evidence that maybe there is some agreement for the Algerian to procure the Su-57 in the future.

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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 am

    Algeria receives 1st batch of MiG-29 fighter aircraft from Russia, reports say


    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase

    MOSCOW, October 26. /TASS/. The Algerian Air Force has received the first batch of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighter aircraft from Russia, the country’s specialized web portal menadefense.net reported on Monday.

    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase, the web portal said.

    The MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters will replace MiG-29S aircraft operational in the Algerian Air Force’s 193rd fighter squadron. These aircraft are identical to their Egyptian version, the web portal said.

    Russia’s state arms seller Rosoboronexport (part of the state hi-tech corporation Rostec) signed two contracts with Algeria on the delivery of a squadron of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters and a squadron of Su-30MKA aircraft at the MAKS-2019 international air show near Moscow last year.

    https://tass.com/defense/1216519

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    Post  Flyboy77 Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:20 pm

    Interesting. I did hear rumors about this order before.

    Has there been any pictures of MiG-29M in Algerian color? We would normally get a few images before handover just like with the Egyptian Su-35.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:12 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Algeria receives 1st batch of MiG-29 fighter aircraft from Russia, reports say



    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase

    MOSCOW, October 26. /TASS/. The Algerian Air Force has received the first batch of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighter aircraft from Russia, the country’s specialized web portal menadefense.net reported on Monday.

    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase, the web portal said.

    The MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters will replace MiG-29S aircraft operational in the Algerian Air Force’s 193rd fighter squadron. These aircraft are identical to their Egyptian version, the web portal said.

    Russia’s state arms seller Rosoboronexport (part of the state hi-tech corporation Rostec) signed two contracts with Algeria on the delivery of a squadron of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters and a squadron of Su-30MKA aircraft at the MAKS-2019 international air show near Moscow last year.

    https://tass.com/defense/1216519

    Ahahaha, so first they reject them, now they buy them back 10 years after the first attempt?

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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:15 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    George1 wrote:

    Algeria receives 1st batch of MiG-29 fighter aircraft from Russia, reports say




    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase

    MOSCOW, October 26. /TASS/. The Algerian Air Force has received the first batch of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighter aircraft from Russia, the country’s specialized web portal menadefense.net reported on Monday.

    The fighters were delivered disassembled and are now being prepared for their first flights at the Oran airbase, the web portal said.

    The MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters will replace MiG-29S aircraft operational in the Algerian Air Force’s 193rd fighter squadron. These aircraft are identical to their Egyptian version, the web portal said.

    Russia’s state arms seller Rosoboronexport (part of the state hi-tech corporation Rostec) signed two contracts with Algeria on the delivery of a squadron of MiG-29M/MiG-29M2 fighters and a squadron of Su-30MKA aircraft at the MAKS-2019 international air show near Moscow last year.

    https://tass.com/defense/1216519

    Ahahaha, so first they reject them, now they buy them back 10 years after the first attempt?

    Τhey had rejected MiG-29SMT
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    Post  Isos Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:47 pm

    No mig-35 ? Too bad.

    So they will have Mig-29M, Su-30MKA,Su-34, Su-35, Su-57, yak-130 and in reserve some mig-29S and su-24M.

    They just lack su-25.

    I guess they will also buy some Orion UAV for border patrol. But for their huge borders Altius-M is a better choice.
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    Post  Flyboy77 Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:14 am

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    Some evidence. Nice to see another MiG-29M order. Hopefully we get more interest in the platform from other countries.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:48 am

    It is actually very smart. The MiG-29M2 family of aircraft are fully multirole, but they are not leading edge super state of the art... and therefore rather expensive...

    They share the same airframe as the MIG-35 so any new stuff they develop for the MiG-35 they can put into these aircraft.

    If they are using these aircraft as their low fighters, it means they can be cheaper to buy with lower operating costs compared with the Flankers which are larger aircraft, and any upgrades over time can be added to improve performance as it becomes more affordable or proven in service in other air forces.

    In the mean time it can fly as fast as a Flanker and compared with a standard Su-27SM3 type aircraft it has four inner wing pylons for heavy missiles and four outer pylons for lighter missiles... so it carries four R-27s or R-77 and four R-73s or R-74s compared with the Flanker which traditionally carries six R-27s or six R-77s and six R-73s or six R-74s... so the difference in normal air to air payload is not that huge most of the time.

    Most of the roles most fighters perform it wont be carrying anything like those sorts of loads....

    The airframe for the MiG-29M2 and MiG-29KR and MiG-35 are the same, so they could gradually upgrade the aircraft to 35 standard if they want, though some of the systems and features or capabilities of the 35 might not be needed with them having plenty of larger aircraft too, so a partial upgrade would make financial sense too.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:55 am

    So much for those calling the MIG-29 irrelevant. Egypt, Algeria and also India all buying and upgrading their planes.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:38 am

    mnztr wrote:So much for those calling the MIG-29 irrelevant. Egypt, Algeria and also India all buying and upgrading their planes.

    Didn't Algeria send all their Migs back and replaced them with Flankers, is this a new order?
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:26 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    mnztr wrote:So much for those calling the MIG-29 irrelevant. Egypt, Algeria and also India all buying and upgrading their planes.

    Didn't Algeria send all their Migs back and replaced them with Flankers, is this a new order?

    That was getting close to a decade ago.

    Yes, new order.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:30 am

    Algeria bought some MiG-29SMTs but were given an offer of the same number of Su-30s for the same purchase price so they made up some bullshit excuse about the MiG-29SMT which is an upgrade for existing airframes, not being brand new airframes and returned them so they could have Su-30s instead.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:47 pm

    Algerian Terminators
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:35 am

    Flyboy77 wrote:Got this photo off Top Secret. Apparently it a mural on Algerian HQ building. Further evidence that maybe there is some agreement for the Algerian to procure the Su-57 in the future.

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    Pay attention to the general with the tan uniform and the white medical mask saluting....
    Th SU57 appeared again during the meeting of Algerian army chief of staff "SAID CHENGRIHA" and  the director of FSVTS of Russia "Dmitry Shugaev" ...after its appearance on a mural at the headquarters of algerian MoD
    i think the felon will be algerian
    #sukoi #SU57 #ALGERIA
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    Post  George1 Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:45 pm

    Rare video of tests of the Russian Ka-52 combat helicopter in Algeria

    A rare video showing the Russian Ka-52 combat helicopter being tested at the Hassi Bahba airbase of the Algerian Air Force in March 2015. As reported by colleagues bmpd Ka-52 was tested in an advanced helicopter for the Navy of the country for the possibility of equipping the aviation wing of the helicopter landing ship dock Kalaat Beni Abbes.



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    Post  Flyboy77 Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:40 am

    Has there been any images of Algeria's New MiG-29M released yet? I thought we would of seen them by now.
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    Post  LMFS Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:14 pm

    Flyboy77 wrote:Has there been any images of Algeria's New MiG-29M released yet? I thought we would of seen them by now.

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