SeigSoloyvov Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:54 pm
KomissarBojanchev wrote:Yes a cruise missile is any long range ground attack missile. Not built for range? Logic is not your strong point. AShMs are by definition built for range, and the P-700/P-500 are some of the best/if not the best in that department. If they can make a mach 2.5 missile go 600km, there sure as F can make a mach 0.8 one go 5 times as far today.
Also you left out the Granat in your comment.
The definition of a cruise missile is a guided missile that flies at moderate speed and low altitude, hence none of your missiles meet the criterion. Logic dictates you know the definition first.
Name doesn't matter. They used oniks for ground attack role in syria. A mach 3 missile is really hard to intercept if all your air defence soldiers aren't ready for it.
At mach 3 you only need 20 min to go 1000km. Alerting air defence forces, moving Patriot semi mobile system and deploying it takes longer than 20 min. Intercepting it with a fighter is hopless.
Your information is inaccurate they fired KA-61's which is the air to a ground version of the Onik's, not the anti-ship Oniks you can fire the 800's at land targets sure but they would be awfully inaccurate and chances are would do shit against precision strike, also the range of an Oniks at most is like 600KM.
You are trying to describe a very limited scenario where the bombers would be allowed to freely close such a small gap and launch, they would be detected long before they reach their deployment zone and would be countered, Detection is a thing and Russia has no means of hiding it's aircraft like some godly ninja.
No one does, just some aircraft are good at hiding from certain radars.
Fighters cannot carry the oinks mind you, only the submarine version is 600km the aircraft version is short range like 400km the bombers or aircraft would be long intercepted before that point. Reality doesn't work like your head thinks things would go, Russia would never have such free reign air wise in a large scale war and that missile only goes 2.5M not 3.0M that is a big difference.
It lacks the production capacity and the sheer numbers to overpower Nato's AF. Like Putin said "you'd have to me insane to take on NATO" against some third world banana republic SURE Russia could achieve the type of air superiority you are thinking.