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    Post  Kiko Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:37 pm

    The US was obliged to send a Russophobe to negotiations with Russia, by Gevorg Mirzayan for VZGLYAD, 11/10/2021.

    Of course, no one guarantees that these negotiations will end successfully. They probably won't get anywhere. However, it is still worth trying. Even if for this you need to endure Nuland in Moscow for several days.

    On October 11-13, Victoria Nuland, the US Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs, will visit Moscow. She will have to hold talks with a number of Russian dignitaries (including Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov), at which the parties will ask each other questions and, possibly, receive answers to them.

    And the Russian public has one single question: do we need to meet with Nuland? The lady who was going to "push Putin to the wall" (this is what the title of her article in 2020 sounded like )? Which advocates the isolation of Russia, because, as she herself wrote, "some, including myself, were overly optimistic, believing that the more Russia gets closer to the free world, the better and more democratic it will become as a partner." ? Who refused and still refuses to recognize Russian interests in the post-Soviet space, and even more so to respect them? Which Moscow first included in the sanctions lists, and now, for the sake of the opportunity to make this visit, has it removed from them?

    Yes, I removed it for a reason - according to the words of Maria Zakharova, “they included Russian representatives, international affairs officials, in their sanctions lists, so in this case this issue was resolved on an equal footing”. That is, in other words, they excluded some Russian from the lists, and we removed Nuland from there. However, the problem is that today the Americans have excluded it, and tomorrow (well, more precisely, on the 14th, after Nuland's return to Washington) they will include it back - especially since the United States no longer needs any reasonable reasons to replenish the lists. Such an exclusion is only a tactical exchange and generally has no strategic benefit for Russia, so all the headlines from the series “The United States had to make a deal with Russia for Nuland’s visit to Moscow” do not correspond to reality at all. However, this visit is useful. And - under certain circumstances - it can be considerable.

    Recall that in June 2021, Vladimir Putin and Joseph Biden held a very productive meeting in Geneva. At it, they agreed to stop the escalation of the conflict in relations between Russia and the United States, to see how it would look, and also to try to start some kind of pragmatic dialogue. And the United States, strange as it may seem, has more or less complied with this agreement. All these months Washington refrained from any drastic anti-Russian steps: it did not accept significant packages of anti-Russian sanctions, did not arrange large-scale military provocations, did not incite Kiev (but, rather, on the contrary, set it down) and even, with all its rhetoric across Crimea, did not send to the highly publicized Ukrainian "Crimean Platform" of any significant official.

    Of course, all this Biden did not out of the kindness of his soul. He sharply criticized Trump's approach to foreign policy issues, but nevertheless adopted some of Trump's theses. For example, refraining from scattering resources on unnecessary conflicts and concentrating them on what is most needed - that is, containing China. The Biden administration is now actively pursuing the architecture of this containment - for example, through the creation of the AUKUS tripartite alliance and attempts to derail or diminish the significance of the Beijing 2022 Olympics. Yes, the Americans also need a conflict with Russia — to mobilize the American elites, to justify the existence of NATO, to weaken Europe and keep it in its sphere of influence — but this conflict must be: a) manageable; b) low intensity. Therefore, Biden does not need any sharp moves in relations with Moscow.

    However, it is impossible to keep bilateral relations in a state of "escalation freeze" for a long time. There are many controversial issues between Russia and the United States, in which it is necessary either to try to build a dialogue, or at least to clearly draw red lines to each other and agree not to cross them.

    Apparently, the American Undersecretary of State is going to Moscow for a technical (that is, at the level of performers) dialogue. The parties will talk about Ukraine - about what to do with Volodymyr Zelenskyy (who, due to his lack of control, has ceased to suit even the United States) and the Minsk Agreements. On Iran - Washington is trying to negotiate with Tehran on the resuscitation of the nuclear deal, and it needs any help in this. As for China, the United States still hopes, if not to pull Russia up to its plans, then at least somehow pull it away from Beijing. With regard to further arms reductions, the Americans are worried about the latest Russian hypersonic and nuclear weapons, which not only restore parity and the principle of a guaranteed retaliatory strike, but also nullifies all current and future American missile defense systems.

    Finally, they will talk about ambassadorial matters - at the suggestion of the Americans, staff in diplomatic missions have already been reduced to a minimum, the United States has practically stopped issuing visas to Russians, and not only Russian citizens, but also Washington, suffer from such happiness. After all, everyone understands that various exchange programs and visits of "young leaders" to the United States are an important element of the "soft power" strategy. And if it will be extremely difficult to agree on other issues, the restoration of normal diplomatic relations is quite possible. And in general, the Russian-American dialogue is needed not only by Washington, but also by Moscow - for de-escalation, for increasing its own capabilities in negotiations with the same Iran and China. In the end, to move away from the abyss of a possible third world war.

    Of course, it may seem to someone that if you need to negotiate with someone, then certainly not with the anti-Russian-minded Mrs. Nuland. That Washington could send some other diplomat, more constructive. However, firstly, Nuland is a professional of the highest standard, especially on issues related to Russia. Secondly, being a professional, she does not put her Wishlist in the first place - and it will not be she who will make the final decisions. Her task is to conduct technical negotiations and then report their results to her superiors.

    Finally, she is Biden's safe negotiator with Russia. Victoria Nuland went to Moscow not only because she is the Deputy Secretary of State, and not only because she knows Russian realities. Biden is playing it safe - he is sending a "hawk" to hide from possible criticism and accusations (for example, from the same Trump) that Washington is going to almost surrender to Moscow. No one will be able to accuse Nuland with her views of intending to surrender American interests - which means that she will save the dialogue between Russia and the United States from sabotaging the press, which happened during the attempt to negotiate with Trump.

    Of course, no one guarantees that these negotiations will end successfully. They probably won't get anywhere. However, it is still worth trying. Even if for this you need to endure Nuland in Moscow for several days.

    https://m.vz.ru/opinions/2021/10/11/1123411.html

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:12 am

    Yeah, you could surmise that Nuland is being used as a tool to give concessions in a bullet proof way that US media can't criticise, but equally you could say the same about Pompeo and Bolton and that dickhead they put in charge of the shit in Venezuela and they just screwed everything up...

    Nuland might just screw everything up and just claim it was all Putins fault...

    It is the US that is having problems in Syria and Ukraine and Afghanistan and Iraq and other places as well and lack leverage that they are prepared to use against China.... why should Russia care?
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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:46 pm



    Nudelman's visit to Moscow has been a total fail.

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:32 pm



    An article in Foreign Affairs is bewailing that Russia did not collapse after Obummer's 2014 sanctions. The article
    outlines some issues

    1) The PPP GDP metric has Russia as the sixth largest economy and not less than Texas.

    2) Russia is in the top 10 countries with investment in technological development. But it falls far behind the
    USA and China.

    3) Russia's population is not shrinking fast enough to be triumphant over a demographic collapse.

    4) The west failed to wake up to the re-armament of Russia after 2008.

    5) The "free world" should not expect a regime change in Russia any time soon.

    Apparently Joe Biden characterized Russia in the same fashion as the expired John McShitStain: it only has
    nukes and oil and gas wells. Biden is indeed senile and thinks it is 2014 and that Obummer was attached
    to reality when he spewed his "Russia does not make anything" drivel.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:13 pm

    Putin, CIA director discuss Russia-US relations, regional conflicts over phone — Kremlin, 08/11/2021.

    On November 2-3, Burns visited Moscow with a delegation of high-ranking US officials and had a meeting with Secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolai Patrushev and Director of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergei Naryshkin.

    MOSCOW, November 8. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has discussed with Director of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) William Burns Russian-US relations, the diplomatic crisis, regional conflicts and cybersecurity in a phone conversation, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists on Monday.

    "Such a phone conversation did take place," he said in response to a corresponding question.

    "Bilateral relations [were discussed], the crisis situation in the diplomatic practice, an exchange of opinions on regional conflicts [took place]," the Kremlin official noted. He also confirmed that the sides discussed the issues of cybersecurity.

    On November 2-3, Burns visited Moscow with a delegation of high-ranking US officials. On November 2, he had meetings with Secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolai Patrushev and Director of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergei Naryshkin. According to the SVR, Burns and Naryshkin discussed the fight against international terrorism and the interagency interaction. At the meeting with Patrushev, the relations of Moscow and Washington were discussed, according to the press service of the Russian Security Council.

    https://tass.com/defense/1358571
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    Post  franco Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:00 pm

    Kiko wrote:Putin, CIA director discuss Russia-US relations, regional conflicts over phone — Kremlin, 08/11/2021.

    On November 2-3, Burns visited Moscow with a delegation of high-ranking US officials and had a meeting with Secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolai Patrushev and Director of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergei Naryshkin.

    MOSCOW, November 8. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has discussed with Director of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) William Burns Russian-US relations, the diplomatic crisis, regional conflicts and cybersecurity in a phone conversation, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists on Monday.

    "Such a phone conversation did take place," he said in response to a corresponding question.

    "Bilateral relations [were discussed], the crisis situation in the diplomatic practice, an exchange of opinions on regional conflicts [took place]," the Kremlin official noted. He also confirmed that the sides discussed the issues of cybersecurity.

    On November 2-3, Burns visited Moscow with a delegation of high-ranking US officials. On November 2, he had meetings with Secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolai Patrushev and Director of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergei Naryshkin. According to the SVR, Burns and Naryshkin discussed the fight against international terrorism and the interagency interaction. At the meeting with Patrushev, the relations of Moscow and Washington were discussed, according to the press service of the Russian Security Council.

    https://tass.com/defense/1358571

    So the "Deep State" wants to communicate directly Twisted Evil

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:23 am

    Very strange they sent the CIA director...
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:Very strange they sent the CIA director...

    Alexander Mercouris postulates that it's because Biden can't trust his foreign policy team to either do the job right, or doesn't want anyone listening in and leaking/politicizing anything.

    Which makes sense, the matter is rather important, and Nuland's visit a couple weeks ago only succeeded in worsening relations.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:06 am

    Which suggests perhaps no dialogue for the moment might be better than bad dialogue...

    Communications with HATO currently are going through the Russian embassy in Belgium and the sky has not fallen yet.
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    Post  andalusia Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:48 am

    What do you guys think of these two articles?


    Why the United States and Russia Can Never Be Friends


    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/why_the_united_states_and_russia_can_never_be_friends.html


    https://www.glennbeck.com/2017/03/07/11-reasons-why-america-and-russia-will-never-be-friends/
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    Post  Kiko Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:50 pm

    Putin, Biden Will Hold a Video Call on Tuesday Evening, 04/12/2021.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russian President Vladimir Putin will have a videoconference with his US counterpart, Joe Biden, in the evening of Tuesday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Sputnik on Saturday.

    Earlier in the day, Reuters reported that the presidents would discuss Ukraine and several other issues.

    "Evening. The presidents will decide on their own," Peskov said when asked when the conversation would take place and how long it would last.

    US President Joe Biden in his turn speaking to reporters said that he expected a "long discussion" with Russian President Vladimir Putin, stressing that he respects no one's "red lines" referring to the Russian leader's recent remarks on Ukraine.

    "We’ve been aware of Russia’s actions for a long time and my expectation is we’re going to have a long discussion ... I won’t accept anybody's red line,” Biden said, answering the question what he can do to prevent Russia from invading Ukraine.

    https://sputniknews.com/20211204/putin-biden-will-hold-a-video-call-on-tuesday-evening-1091248309.html

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:23 am


    Why the United States and Russia Can Never Be Friends

    Even without reading the articles they are wrong... Russia has been friends with the US, Russia helped the US during the war against the British and plenty of US soldiers offered their sniping services when Russia was fighting the British in the Crimea.

    The US and Russia are not friends because the US elite chooses to make them enemies because they think they need a powerful enemy to rally the population against so they ignore their other problems and accept a war footing so they will put up with buildings and bridges collapsing due to neglect and mismanagement.

    I mean obviously high speed trains across the US and second to none but still affordable healthcare, and obviously US leadership in clean green technologies that turn US waste into energy to the point where you no longer rely on oil... imported or otherwise... are not as important as having listening posts building the Baltic States and the Ukraine...

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:48 am

    What an Asshole.

    He is basically saying I don't care what is important to you and I will do what is important to us... sounds like it is going to be a fairly pointless discussion where Biden tells Putin what he wants to happen in lots of places and Putin says no we can't help you there.

    I think it will be a fairly short conversation.

    Plus a problem for Putin... how the hell is he supposed to find a 12 year old red haired translator as a honey trap for Creepy Joe?

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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:25 pm

    Putin calls US sanctions against MIPT university nonsense, attempt to hamper Russia

    https://tass.com/politics/1372919

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:32 am

    George1 wrote:Putin calls US sanctions against MIPT university nonsense, attempt to hamper Russia

    https://tass.com/politics/1372919

    Hilarious.  Yanqui-tards think that they will shut down Russian intellectual capacity with sanctions on its higher academic
    institutions.  

    My advice for Russia which western retards can listen to if they have the IQ:

    Most of western academic contribution comes from imported Chinese talent.   Russian universities and research institutes do not
    need precious, precious western contacts.   They can get more value by being in contact with China, India and the rest of the planet.
    That is where the west poaches its researchers from anyway.  

    But I think that the sock puppet western politicians do not have the brain power to understand that Russia does not depend
    on the west.   You can see these losers yapping about Nord Stream II as if Russia is totally desperate to send gas down this
    pipe.  The retard Blinken talks about the "west" having leverage over Russia because gas is not flowing down the pipeline.
    You can't even call this specimen a retard.  Retards can actually have some grounding in reality.   There is nothing worse than
    a willful idiot.   The delta in brain capacity over a retard just amplifies the mental dysfunction.
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    Post  mnztr Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:45 am

    GarryB wrote:What an Asshole.

    He is basically saying I don't care what is important to you and I will do what is important to us... sounds like it is going to be a fairly pointless discussion where Biden tells Putin what he wants to happen in lots of places and Putin says no we can't help you there.

    I think it will be a fairly short conversation.

    Plus a problem for Putin... how the hell is he supposed to find a 12 year old red haired translator as a honey trap for Creepy Joe?


    It is an incredibly assholic point of view. Perhaps Putin told him in their discussion, if you won't discuss our red lines, should we just end the call? But this shit is for domestic consumption and for US politics.
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    Post  calripson Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:00 am

    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:Putin calls US sanctions against MIPT university nonsense, attempt to hamper Russia

    https://tass.com/politics/1372919

    Hilarious.  Yanqui-tards think that they will shut down Russian intellectual capacity with sanctions on its higher academic
    institutions.  

    My advice for Russia which western retards can listen to if they have the IQ:

    Most of western academic contribution comes from imported Chinese talent.   Russian universities and research institutes do not
    need precious, precious western contacts.   They can get more value by being in contact with China, India and the rest of the planet.
    That is where the west poaches its researchers from anyway.  

    But I think that the sock puppet western politicians do not have the brain power to understand that Russia does not depend
    on the west.   You can see these losers yapping about Nord Stream II as if Russia is totally desperate to send gas down this
    pipe.  The retard Blinken talks about the "west" having leverage over Russia because gas is not flowing down the pipeline.
    You can't even call this specimen a retard.  Retards can actually have some grounding in reality.   There is nothing worse than
    a willful idiot.   The delta in brain capacity over a retard just amplifies the mental dysfunction.

    How many US academics populate the faculty of MGU, MIFI, or SPU? You'll find plenty of high-level academics in the physics, computer science, and math departments of elite universities in the US from the former USSR. In terms of brain flow, this has always been a one way stream.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:39 am

    You are talking about the 1990s legacy. The "one way" flow dried up long ago. I know personally some of the wave that came in the
    1990s to Canadian universities. That pattern was not there already in the 2000s. By contrast, the new prof hires are dominated
    by Chinese.

    This is why you do not hear much about the brain drain from Russia today.

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    Post  mnztr Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:38 am

    kvs wrote:You are talking about the 1990s legacy.   The "one way" flow dried up long ago.   I know personally some of the wave that came in the
    1990s to Canadian universities.   That pattern was not there already in the 2000s.   By contrast, the new prof hires are dominated
    by Chinese.  

    This is why you do not hear much about the brain drain from Russia today.


    THere is still a large brain drain from Russia and this is what the Russian govt needs to deal with. Too many young Russian people want to leave because they cannot get the lifestyle they want as readily are they can in the West. Its that simple. Wealth is Russia is to poorly distributed . Quality of life outside the 2 major cities is poor and starting new businesses and commercial and property law is too weak. Is it better then the 90's, sure!! A lot better, but there is quite a way to go. I hope Mishustin can make inroads. I read that he was selected for the purpose of modernising the Russian economy.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:27 am

    You are confusing some young people with highly educated professionals. There is no brain drain so stop spreading BS.
    The Russian government does not need to do anything other than making sure that academic salaries are good enough and
    that academic standards are high. One of the best things since the collapse of the USSR is for people to be able to leave.
    Forcing them to stay just creates sedition.

    The whole "Russian youth are discontent" is a NATzO propaganda narrative. None of my relatives (half my family) and
    anyone they know shows any evidence of such a state of mind. These supposedly disaffected youth were supposed
    to from Navalny's base. That has flopped spectacularly.

    All of you claimers of some shortage of skilled people to fill critical jobs in Russia need to put up or shut up. The way you
    phrase it, one would think that engineering projects are failing because all the engineers are running off to some better
    life in the west.

    1) There is no room for these people in the west unless they want to drive taxis or work in jobs completely unrelated to their
    training and skill set. Here in Canada we have doctors driving taxis. Canada does not want Russian youth, it gives preferential
    treatment to its own youth.

    2) There is simply zero evidence of any gap in the filling of skilled jobs in Russia. By contrast, Ukraine shows plenty of
    deficit in this regard since people are fleeing that toilet in droves. The key here is the economic condition of the country.
    There is no impetus to emigrate like there was in the 1990s.

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:37 am

    My original point got sidetracked with the brain drain drivel. It is obvious by now that Russian research institutes and academic
    institutions are producing people to fill the jobs needed for Russia's economy to function and develop. The notion that Russia
    is still working Soviet vapours is absurd. It has been 30 years since the collapse of the USSR. Anyone in their 30s is retirement
    age. People with advanced degrees are only ready to enter the workforce in their 30s and late 20s. All the senior engineers
    and researchers are basically in the after life given the average lifespan.

    I will repeat my point: Russian academic institutions do not need NATzO to function. So NATzO can sanction them until the cows
    come home. I encountered many western researchers who dismissed the Soviet scientific level and contribution because Russian
    researchers did not publish their work in western journals. This chauvinist ignorance persists today. Just as Soviet science did
    rather well without any western charity, Russian science is doing just fine. NATzO accounts for 11% of the world's population
    but thinks it is the hub of the planet. The pathetic posturing of yanqui haters is not going to isolate Russia from the rest of
    humanity.

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    Post  George1 Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:00 am

    Russia to draw up security guarantee offer by next strategic stability talks with US


    According to the Foreign Ministry, Moscow insists on signing an agreement that would legally bind the United States and other NATO countries not to deploy offensive weapons systems posing a threat to Russia on the territories of neighboring countries

    MOSCOW, December 10. /TASS/. Moscow will draw up a comprehensive proposal on legal guarantees of security by the next round of its strategic stability dialogue with the US, Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said on Friday.

    "We will submit a comprehensive proposal on legal guarantees of security as part of the preparations for the next round of the Russian-US strategic stability dialogue. We will promote a substantive discussion of military aspects of ensuring security through the defense ministries together with the participation of the foreign policy departments of Russia and NATO countries," it said.

    According to the ministry, Moscow insists on signing an agreement that would legally bind the United States and other NATO countries not to deploy offensive weapons systems posing a threat to Russia on the territories of neighboring countries.

    Russia also insists NATO respond to its previous proposals on cooling down tensions in Europe. Moscow is still urging Washington to join Russia’s unilateral moratorium on the deployment of ground-based shorter-and intermediate-range missiles in Europe, and to agree on and introduce the necessary measures to verify compliance with mutual obligations, as stated in the report of the diplomatic agency.

    "Russia will soon present drafts of international legal documents in these spheres to begin talks in the corresponding formats," the ministry said.

    The Geneva-hosted summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart Joe Biden in June yielded an agreement on the resumption of consultations regarding strategic stability. Since then, two rounds of contacts were held - one on June 28 and the other on September 30. The next round of consultations on strategic stability between Russia and the United States may be held in January 2022, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told TASS earlier.

    https://tass.com/politics/1374089
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    Post  mnztr Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:45 am

    Don't take my word for it:

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/10/13/5-million-russian-citizens-left-russia-under-putin-a75246


    I met a young lady that moved to Medellin Colombia over Russia. Very smart, university educated, multiple languages etc.

    kvs wrote:You are confusing some young people with highly educated professionals.   There is no brain drain so stop spreading BS.
    The Russian government does not need to do anything other than making sure that academic salaries are good enough and
    that academic standards are high.   One of the best things since the collapse of the USSR is for people to be able to leave.
    Forcing them to stay just creates sedition.  

    The whole "Russian youth are discontent" is a NATzO propaganda narrative.  None of my relatives (half my family) and
    anyone they know shows any evidence of such a state of mind.   These supposedly disaffected youth were supposed
    to from Navalny's base.   That has flopped spectacularly.  

    All of you claimers of some shortage of skilled people to fill critical jobs in Russia need to put up or shut up.   The way you
    phrase it, one would think that engineering projects are failing because all the engineers are running off to some better
    life in the west.

    1) There is no room for these people in the west unless they want to drive taxis or work in jobs completely unrelated to their
    training and skill set.   Here in Canada we have doctors driving taxis.   Canada does not want Russian youth, it gives preferential
    treatment to its own youth.  

    2) There is simply zero evidence of any gap in the filling of skilled jobs in Russia.   By contrast, Ukraine shows plenty of
    deficit in this regard since people are fleeing that toilet in droves.   The key here is the economic condition of the country.
    There is no impetus to emigrate like there was in the 1990s.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:50 am

    I don't see a great deal of such a agreement. They could just deploy one country further. In this era of hypersonics it won't make a huge difference.


    George1 wrote:

    Russia to draw up security guarantee offer by next strategic stability talks with US



    According to the Foreign Ministry, Moscow insists on signing an agreement that would legally bind the United States and other NATO countries not to deploy offensive weapons systems posing a threat to Russia on the territories of neighboring countries

    MOSCOW, December 10. /TASS/. Moscow will draw up a comprehensive proposal on legal guarantees of security by the next round of its strategic stability dialogue with the US, Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said on Friday.

    "We will submit a comprehensive proposal on legal guarantees of security as part of the preparations for the next round of the Russian-US strategic stability dialogue. We will promote a substantive discussion of military aspects of ensuring security through the defense ministries together with the participation of the foreign policy departments of Russia and NATO countries," it said.

    According to the ministry, Moscow insists on signing an agreement that would legally bind the United States and other NATO countries not to deploy offensive weapons systems posing a threat to Russia on the territories of neighboring countries.

    Russia also insists NATO respond to its previous proposals on cooling down tensions in Europe. Moscow is still urging Washington to join Russia’s unilateral moratorium on the deployment of ground-based shorter-and intermediate-range missiles in Europe, and to agree on and introduce the necessary measures to verify compliance with mutual obligations, as stated in the report of the diplomatic agency.

    "Russia will soon present drafts of international legal documents in these spheres to begin talks in the corresponding formats," the ministry said.

    The Geneva-hosted summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart Joe Biden in June yielded an agreement on the resumption of consultations regarding strategic stability. Since then, two rounds of contacts were held - one on June 28 and the other on September 30. The next round of consultations on strategic stability between Russia and the United States may be held in January 2022, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told TASS earlier.

    https://tass.com/politics/1374089
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:57 pm



    Finland helped in the kidnapping of a Russian human rights activist by the US. At every stage of the "arrest" there were
    violations of international conventions and domestic laws. She was subjected to the legal equivalent of torture including
    beatings and solitary confinement (no daylight and no physical exercise) for one year. In total she was confined for
    nearly 900 days.

    She got some of that Julian Assange treatment from western "democracies".

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