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    Post  ATLASCUB on Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:06 pm

    What assertions?

    The health of the American economy? I mean the doomsday clock has been ticking since 1929. Everyday the empire is about to explode if you listen to RT.

    The losers list, in order? Self-evident in my opinion

    Or the Chinese being little dwarfs in geopolitics? also self-evident given their oversized economy. Hec just compare it to the USSR, it's not even close.

    More like you should back your assertions about the demise of the empire's enforcement power when they have puppet governments in what was historically Russian territory in Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, and cooking puppets in Armenia, while fucking Russian ally Syria almost beyond repair and frozen in conflict?

    Or how it got the foolish elite in Brazil and Argentina to commit seppukuu while they hashed out a deal with the Chinese at their expense? Bolsonaro and Macri... the walking definition of useful idiots.

    Or how they've baited the Indians into false pretenses of imperial ascension, to their detriment? Howdy Modi.

    The Empire is kicking live and well. Only fools fail to see it in action.
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    Post  PhSt on Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:18 pm


    I bet if it was Russia who made this pronouncement the Americunts would be bitching 24/7 about how Russia is being so aggressive. But when America does it apparently its okay Rolling Eyes



    Cybercom mulls aggressive tactics if Russia interferes in next election: report

    The U.S. is working on information warfare tactics that could be used to counter possible Russian interference in the 2020 election, The Washington Post reported Wednesday, citing current and former officials.

    The U.S. Cyber Command (CyberCom) is mulling one strategy that would go after top Russian officials and elites to demonstrate that their personal information could be hit if interference continues, according to The Post.

    The officials reportedly said that Russian president Vladimir Putin would likely not be a target because that would be too provocative.

    The Post reported that last month that an intelligence community report found that Russia's top goal for its 2020 operations would be to sow discord in the U.S.

    “It’s always been about exacerbating fault lines in our society,” one official told the newspaper.

    The Hill has reached out to CyberCom and the Defense Department for comment.

    The reported tactics would build upon past efforts. The New York Times reported last year that the U.S. was conducting cyber operations meant to prevent interference in the 2018 midterm election.

    The Washington Post has previously reported that CyberCom officials have said they were able to block internet access for a major Russian troll farm on Election Day.

    Former special counsel Robert Mueller's team determined earlier this year that Russia aimed to help President Trump win the 2016 presidential election. The team did not find that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:39 am

    Yeah, these amazing US intel agencies that are all powerful and know exactly what the Russians are up to... they are like British Politicians... no evidence but because it is what we would do in their shoes it is highly likely and therefore proven fact...

    If the Democratic DNC wont even allow the FBI access to their servers to determine if there was any actual hacking done, so the FBI just assume there was because how else could any information get off a server right... I mean a server is something most users of the entire computer network attached to it have regular access to, so the chances of anyone managing to get information off that server without hacking is zero... but with a one in front and then that zero and then another zero percent... you know.... 100%.

    Democratic leadership told the world their little election to decide who would run for president was rigged and that Hilary was always going to win because she basically funded the democratic party... now the DMC is made up of Hilary supporters and Bernie supporters... what are the chances of those Bernie supporters digging up all the dirt they can find on Hilary and handing it over to all the newspaper companies in the US like the NYT and the Washington Post, and also Wikileaks... the funny thing there is that Wikileaks got branded the devil incarnate, while those two respected US newspapers are clearly made of Teflon because nothing stuck for them.

    I am no genius, but soon after they started jumping up and down about hackers... but even mentioning that there was no actual evidence but that it was just highly likely because they are Russian and that is what they would do... mainly because that is what we would do if we were in the same position (for those not following that is not actually logical and with no actual evidence to prove would not hold up in any court of law outside the US or UK) I realised it was pretty obvious that a disgruntled employee seeing this bold faced corruption and bullshit where Hilary won an election nomination unfairly... how can you let that cow be president?

    But that has never happened before, right?

    I mean Manning and Snowden and Assange just did it for all the money they made right... they weren't disgruntled westerners disgusted at the ignorance and empty pathetic waste the media in the west have become... but the US government started that decades ago... print what we say and be nice or you wont get access and will have no story to print at all... theres a good dog... and they have become little bitches ever since... none of them have mentioned lack of evidence, none of them even consider alternative possibilities... they are the real problem... but not for Russia... they are the problem for the west.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:41 am

    PhSt wrote:
    I bet if it was Russia who made this pronouncement the Americunts would be bitching 24/7 about how Russia is being so aggressive. But when America does it apparently its okay  Rolling Eyes



    Cybercom mulls aggressive tactics if Russia interferes in next election: report

    The U.S. is working on information warfare tactics that could be used to counter possible Russian interference in the 2020 election, The Washington Post reported Wednesday, citing current and former officials.

    The U.S. Cyber Command (CyberCom) is mulling one strategy that would go after top Russian officials and elites to demonstrate that their personal information could be hit if interference continues, according to The Post.

    The officials reportedly said that Russian president Vladimir Putin would likely not be a target because that would be too provocative.

    The Post reported that last month that an intelligence community report found that Russia's top goal for its 2020 operations would be to sow discord in the U.S.

    “It’s always been about exacerbating fault lines in our society,” one official told the newspaper.

    The Hill has reached out to CyberCom and the Defense Department for comment.

    The reported tactics would build upon past efforts. The New York Times reported last year that the U.S. was conducting cyber operations meant to prevent interference in the 2018 midterm election.

    The Washington Post has previously reported that CyberCom officials have said they were able to block internet access for a major Russian troll farm on Election Day.

    Former special counsel Robert Mueller's team determined earlier this year that Russia aimed to help President Trump win the 2016 presidential election. The team did not find that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia.

    These cunts can't even get their story straight. According to the FBI report that was at the base of the inquisition against Trump, it was "meddling" in the
    form of social media ads. Not actual hacking of election centers. And the FBI was never allowed to investigate the alleged "hack" of the DNC computers
    which actually involved a local using USB sticks to gather a large amount of data.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:06 pm

    RAND deep state think tank openly calling for acts of war against Russia under funding by the US Army:

    Russia - USA Relations - Page 11 EjA6KuPXsAAmDST?format=png&name=small

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR3000/RR3063/RAND_RR3063.pdf

    Of course those courses of action are nothing but what US has been doing for a long while. At some time a harsh response may come and some Western retards may wonder why is Russia behaving so aggressively... long overdue if you ask me.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:13 pm

    LMFS wrote:RAND deep state think tank openly calling for acts of war against Russia under funding by the US Army:

    Russia - USA Relations - Page 11 EjA6KuPXsAAmDST?format=png&name=small

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR3000/RR3063/RAND_RR3063.pdf

    Of course those courses of action are nothing but what US has been doing for a long while. At some time a harsh response may come and some Western retards may wonder why is Russia behaving so aggressively... long overdue if you ask me.

    1) Support the Nazi regime in Ukraine aka Banderastan in its quest to exterminate the ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk.

    2) Increase support for jihadi terrorists in Syria.   Hope they don't blow up another public landmark in the USA like the World Trade Center.

    3) Try to install a minority aligned Nazi regime in Belorus such as in Ukraine.   Help it oppress the majority of those devil Russians.

    4) Support the ethno-fascist regime in Georgia to attempt to grab South Ossetia and Abkhazia.   Because we only care about
    territorial integrity when it serves our agenda.  Elsewhere such as in Serbia and Russia we promote secessionists.

    5) Try to undermine Russian trade links with its near abroad and install regimes that will be hostile to Russia.

    6) Try to install another quisling regime in Moldova that does not represent the majority but licks our balls and fellates our penis.


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    Post  LMFS on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:42 pm

    kvs wrote:1) Support the Nazi regime in Ukraine aka Banderastan in its quest to exterminate the ethnic Russians in Donbass and Lugansk.

    2) Increase support for jihadi terrorists in Syria.   Hope they don't blow up another public landmark in the USA like the World Trade Center.

    3) Try to install a minority aligned Nazi regime in Belorus such as in Ukraine.   Help it oppress the majority of those devil Russians.

    4) Support the ethno-fascist regime in Georgia to attempt to grab South Ossetia and Abkhazia.   Because we only care about
    territorial integrity when it serves our agenda.  Elsewhere such as in Serbia and Russia we promote secessionists.

    5) Try to undermine Russian trade links with its near abroad and install regimes that will be hostile to Russia.

    6) Try to install another quisling regime in Moldova that does not represent the majority but licks our balls and fellates our penis.


    Best of all is that in the document they justify all that hell breaking loose as "non violent" measures respekt
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    Post  kvs on Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:29 am

    LMFS wrote:
    kvs wrote:1) Support the Nazi regime in Ukraine aka Banderastan in its quest to exterminate the ethnic Russians in Donbass and Lugansk.

    2) Increase support for jihadi terrorists in Syria.   Hope they don't blow up another public landmark in the USA like the World Trade Center.

    3) Try to install a minority aligned Nazi regime in Belorus such as in Ukraine.   Help it oppress the majority of those devil Russians.

    4) Support the ethno-fascist regime in Georgia to attempt to grab South Ossetia and Abkhazia.   Because we only care about
    territorial integrity when it serves our agenda.  Elsewhere such as in Serbia and Russia we promote secessionists.

    5) Try to undermine Russian trade links with its near abroad and install regimes that will be hostile to Russia.

    6) Try to install another quisling regime in Moldova that does not represent the majority but licks our balls and fellates our penis.


    Best of all is that in the document they justify all that hell breaking loose as "non violent" measures respekt

    Hitler had nothing on these stellar intellects bounce

    I think all these big plans for drang nach osten will fail like all the other ones over the last 1000 years. The crusader
    west is so smart that it is stupid.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:37 am

    At least they are stupid enough to be open about their war mongering and lack of morals or ethics.

    Funding terrorists, and simply trying to damage an economic rival though violence and destroying small countries to do so... we don't give a shit about Syrian people and what they want... we just want Russia out.

    These are the organisations that bleet... but what about the women and children... wait what... I thought women are equal... why should they avoid suffering... don't they want to be treated like men?

    Or is it just when it suits their interests... like America....
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    Post  par far on Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:59 pm

    kvs wrote:
    LMFS wrote:RAND deep state think tank openly calling for acts of war against Russia under funding by the US Army:

    Russia - USA Relations - Page 11 EjA6KuPXsAAmDST?format=png&name=small

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR3000/RR3063/RAND_RR3063.pdf

    Of course those courses of action are nothing but what US has been doing for a long while. At some time a harsh response may come and some Western retards may wonder why is Russia behaving so aggressively... long overdue if you ask me.

    1) Support the Nazi regime in Ukraine aka Banderastan in its quest to exterminate the ethnic Russians in Donbass and Lugansk.

    2) Increase support for jihadi terrorists in Syria.   Hope they don't blow up another public landmark in the USA like the World Trade Center.

    3) Try to install a minority aligned Nazi regime in Belorus such as in Ukraine.   Help it oppress the majority of those devil Russians.

    4) Support the ethno-fascist regime in Georgia to attempt to grab South Ossetia and Abkhazia.   Because we only care about
    territorial integrity when it serves our agenda.  Elsewhere such as in Serbia and Russia we promote secessionists.

    5) Try to undermine Russian trade links with its near abroad and install regimes that will be hostile to Russia.

    6) Try to install another quisling regime in Moldova that does not represent the majority but licks our balls and fellates our penis.



    When will Russia hit back and hit hard?
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    Post  par far on Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:01 pm

    Which president do you guys think will be better for Russia-US relations? Trump or Biden?

    I think it does not matter who comes because they will just be a puppet.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:13 pm

    par far wrote:Which president do you guys think will be better for Russia-US  relations? Trump or Biden?

    I think it does not matter who comes because they will just be a puppet.

    I agree, the US president is window dressing. This has been evident for decades since US foreign policy is monochromatic. The US two party
    regime is de facto a one party regime. The big fuss over Trump today has nothing to do with real political plurality. It is a factional fight between
    globalists and those that have woken up and smelled the coffee that globalism will never happen. The era of cheap energy and weak, pliant
    populations ready for colonization is over.

    Also, the big plan of the globalist parasites to mooch off the rising middle classes in China, India and elsewhere has been an epic flop. The globalist
    losers just assumed that they would be the only players on the market. That local competition would arise and crowd them out is something they
    failed to consider seriously.

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    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:09 pm



    Uncle Swine-shit is coming out with another sanctions "law" to "save" Belorus.   The authors of this new effort to divide Russia into
    small manageable pieces harp on and on about Belorussian culture and language and how Russia is supposedly "undermining" them.
    That's a thick and rich and bald face lie since it is Belorussian culture, language and flag that are concoctions of western meddlers
    including the Nazis.   That's right, the red-white "Belorussian" flag is a Nazi invention.    Belorus has no history as a country.   It
    is an ethnic Russian region with a slightly different dialect.   The west has been using nationalism as a tool to partition Russia for
    well over a century.   This includes Ukraine which only has a distinct identity thanks to Polish and Lithuanian occupation in the past.
    And today's Ukraine is a territorial creation of the Bolshies under the guidance of butcher Trotsky.    Novorussia is Russian land
    but it was gifted to Soviet Ukraine.   Like Crimea.   Belorus the republic is another Bolshie creation.

    Germany was actively involved in Ukrainian nationalism during WWI as a way to undermine Russia and get access to food and other
    resources.   Today the USA is basically doing the same.   While purporting to be concerned about Russian military installations in
    Belorus, it creates a de facto military occupation of the Baltics.    It also purports to be concerned about Russian companies
    taking over parts of the Belorussian economy while this is the modus operandi of the US.    The USA is run by bloody hypocrites
    who accuse others of every sin they engage in on a daily basis.

    Funny how the UK is supposed to be one country even though the Celtic Scots and Welsh are not ethnic English and not even that closely
    related since the English are heavily influenced by Germanic tribal migrations. Belorussians and Ukrainians are part of the same
    ethnic group. Ukrainians are slightly more distinct since they have more mixing with Romanian, Hungarian, Polish, and Lithuanian
    peoples. But at the core they are Kievan Rus Slavs. Perhaps Russia should start to engage in a policy of ethnic partition itself.
    Even the USA should be a target regardless of it being a melting pot. California is not happy with Trump and wants to secede.
    They should get help to do that. Then Texas and so on. And of course, all the aboriginals in the USA and Canada should get
    official recognition as captured nations.



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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:12 pm

    It's a damn good thing Russia now figured out not to listen to the USA. That seems to be in effect with Belarus too.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:23 pm

    par far wrote:Which president do you guys think will be better for Russia-US  relations? Trump or Biden?

    I think it does not matter who comes because they will just be a puppet.

    Neither really, Russia and USA will never have good relations they can be at best "Workable".
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:36 am

    Which president do you guys think will be better for Russia-US relations? Trump or Biden?

    I think it does not matter who comes because they will just be a puppet.

    On paper Trump has said many times he wants to work with Russia, but sadly he is an idiot and is easily manipulated because he likes to appear to be the tough guy... the smart guy... so after saying America needs to work together with Russia to get things done, the democrats simply painted him as Putins puppet, and he has been over reacting and pushing Russia away hard ever since to prove he is not... which is exactly what the democrats want because they know if they are fighting Russia everything will just be so much harder.

    I remember during the cold war if you asked which party was best for the Soviets I would have said the Republicans, because they were hard core anti commies and pro war so if they did a deal with the Soviets you knew it wasn't selling the US out. The Democrats used to be anti war... but that changed when they realised how much money could be made destroying countries and then getting the juicy contracts to rebuild them.

    In many ways the democrats and republicans have merged in most areas... except I would say a few minor ways like abortions and death penalties... the amusing thing as you get older is that you see each get the chance to solve all the problems and the problems remain the same and just get slowly worse no matter which party holds power... and democracy creates splinter groups but usually tiny groups that are totally ineffectual most of the time... and the vast majority of time there is no power or authority holding them to their promises, and as we have seen with Trump... in the back ground and all through their government structures it is all political dem or rep, so winning the oval office does not give you control... there are always parts of the government that can say no and do say no. There are parts of the community with lots of money that also have far too much to say because of their use of that money... I would say most of the intel community of the US is controlled by the democrats and that has been used against Trump this time, yet strangely not against the Clintons for screwing Sanders in the last election.... Sanders would have beaten trump, but after getting screwed Sanders turned like a bitch and supported Clinton like a pussy so in fact I am glad he got screwed. I rather suspect they threatened him and his family if he didn't endorse Hilary, but why would you want such a man as president... for all his lofty ideals and morals... they are clearly not worth fighting for... instead of investigating Trump to see if he is a Russian plant, they should have been investigating dirty Hillary and the Clinton foundation... when is that money donated for Haiti going to reach those people? Countries around the world donated large sums of money to the Clinton Foundation... but that stopped when Hilary lost the election... I wonder what that was all about?

    Of course the closets in the Clinton mansion are full of skeletons... literally, but Trump owns thousand bed hotels... think how many closets he has...

    Neither really, Russia and USA will never have good relations they can be at best "Workable".

    The irony is that the west was happy to cooperate with Stalin, but it just isn't in their interests to cooperate now...
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    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:56 pm



    The American Geophysical Union which publishes a lot of premier peer reviewed scientific journals has denied a Russian
    scientific paper even a chance at peer review and blocked it because of US sanctions against Russia. So now we
    have the yanquis using science as a political platform to bash Russia in addition to sports. In both cases they bleat
    that sports and science are above politics but at the same time politicize them.

    During the 1990s under comprador drunk Yeltsin we had all sorts liberast maggots infiltrate the science funding system
    in Russia and they created a system that uses publications in western journals as the prime metric scientific achievement.
    So Russian scientists must publish in politicized western journals and get filtered by all sorts of non-scientific BS to
    "prove" themselves. It is time to shut this racket down. Russian science does not need the AGU to exist. The
    whole situation is grotesque. Science in Russia did not appear in 1990 and has been there before America even
    existed. But the 1990s comprador take over sold Russia down the river. Thankfully Putin enabled a restoration of
    sanity and prosperity. But all the trash must be cleaned out, ASAP.

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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:16 pm

    How will Russia, react to a Biden victory. Pepe Esobar thinks that it is going to be more wars.


    https://thesaker.is/a-dem-presidency-means-the-return-of-the-blob/

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:37 pm

    par far wrote:How will Russia, react to a Biden victory. Pepe Esobar thinks that it is going to be more wars.


    https://thesaker.is/a-dem-presidency-means-the-return-of-the-blob/


    Probably.

    Russia will bunker down and start preparing itself for any kind of nonsense. Hence why all the changes to the constitution along with new bills passing that more or less protects Russia from outside interference.

    The next logical move will be for Russia to start going after its useless allies who are nothing more than a burden.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:08 am

    Russia has no influence over US elections despite what the Democrats claim when they lose.

    It used to be that the Republicans were the war mongers and the Democrats were the peaceniks, but then 50 years ago the Clintons would be Republicans...

    Russia will deal with who ever the Americans put into office... most of the time they actually have a better relationship... hostile but clearly understood... with the republicans because most of the time it was accepted that the Republicans don't like the Soviets so any deal must benefit the US, so agreements were more trustworthy if negotiated by the republicans, but these days there are no real levels of trust to bother starting negotiations to start with.
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    Post  franco on Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 pm

    "Russia under Putin poses an existential threat to the United States and other countries of the West, Russia’s neighbors, and his own people. Biden seems to understand that, not least because he has been the target of Russian interference in the 2020 election, including a disinformation campaign tied to Russia that was designed to smear him and his son Hunter."


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    Post  PhSt on Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:08 pm


    Russia under Putin poses an existential threat to the United States and other countries of the West

    America needs to stop whining and start a war against Russia already. Rolling Eyes

    A successful repelling of a NATO invasion force will be a convenient excuse to liberate Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics and incorporate these regions back to the Russian Federation.

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:46 pm

    PhSt wrote:

    Russia under Putin poses an existential threat to the United States and other countries of the West

    America needs to stop whining and start a war against Russia already. Rolling Eyes

    A successful repelling of a NATO invasion force will be a convenient excuse to liberate Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics and incorporate these regions back to the Russian Federation.

    I don't think Russia needs all of Ukraine, just their ports or all of what ones was Novorossiya and Belarus.

    As for the Baltics, i don't think those Moochers would be healthy for Russia.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:55 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PhSt wrote:

    Russia under Putin poses an existential threat to the United States and other countries of the West

    America needs to stop whining and start a war against Russia already. Rolling Eyes

    A successful repelling of a NATO invasion force will be a convenient excuse to liberate Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics and incorporate these regions back to the Russian Federation.

    I don't think Russia needs all of Ukraine, just their ports or all of what ones was Novorossiya and Belarus.

    As for the Baltics, i don't think those Moochers would be healthy for Russia.

    Concerning the lack of love for Russia of a big part of the population even in the southeast of the ukraine... i do ot know if it would be worth... of you really need I would say the best it would be to give them romenian, polish and bulgarian passports, a one way ticket and wish them well
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    Post  PhSt on Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:55 pm


    I don't think Russia needs all of Ukraine, just their ports or all of what ones was Novorossiya and Belarus.

    As for the Baltics, i don't think those Moochers would be healthy for Russia.

    I forgot to add that those who are not in favor of the new territorial changes will be expelled westward. I'm sure Poland will be more than happy to give them shelter Twisted Evil


    Concerning the lack of love for Russia of a big part of the population even in the southeast of the ukraine... i do ot know if it would be worth

    In this case expel everyone who is hostile to the new territorial changes. Russia doesn't need the population but the extra territory for mining, farming, living space and a couple miles of buffer zone against NATO is a huge incentive for Russia.

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