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    Post  Solncepek Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:35 am

    For a brief moment this summer, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush led the 2016 Republican field. Now, he's sitting solidly in fifth place - but he says he's much happier there.

    "I hated that," Bush told "Face the Nation" moderator John Dickerson in an interview that aired Sunday.

    "You hated being a frontrunner?" Dickerson asked.

    "I feel much better back here," Bush said.
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    In the "Face the Nation" interview, he said Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's proposal to carpet bomb the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is "absolutely foolish."

    "There are 800,000 people who live in Mosul. There's probably 5,000 Islamic terrorists who control the place. We're going to destroy 800,000 lives with a carpet bombing activity? This is foolish. It is absolutely foolish. And he had to back away from it," Bush said.
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    Bush's number one target has been businessman Donald Trump, and he told Trump during Tuesday's Republican debate, "You're not going to be able to insult your way to the presidency." At a post-debate rally, he called Trump a "jerk."

    "Aren't those all insults? Are you trying to insult your way to the presidency?" Dickerson asked.

    "No I'm trying to point out that he's not a serious candidate," Bush said. As an example, he said Trump's struggle to answer a question about the nuclear triad, which is the ways the U.S. can fire nuclear weapons, was "mind blowing."

    "The fact that he wouldn't know what it is is kind of that's one of those questions that I think you have to answer in a thoughtful way if you're running for president of the United States," Bush said.

    He said Trump is "not a serious man."
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    He also criticized Trump for welcoming praise from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    "We're losing influence around the world and Putin is gaining influence. He's not an ally. He's a dictator. He's a bully," Bush said. "We need a president that actually will stand up for American interests whether it's in Europe or the Middle East. That's how you create a better relationship with Putin. You don't brag about what a great guy he is. He's not. He kills journalists. Anybody that opposes him ultimately is pushed away."

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:25 pm

    Dunno where to post, so...

    https://www.rt.com/politics/328635-activists-call-for-american-indian/

    Russian activists are requesting permission to install a monument near the US embassy in Moscow dedicated to the genocide of American Indians. A member of the Russian Public Chamber says the move could soon get official support.

    The activists have launched a petition in support of the monument on the change.org website. It says that “despite assuming the position of a ‘global policeman’ the United States still refuses to accept the responsibility for killing over 15 million Native Americans.”

    The petition goes on to call for public support for the monument, which would be dedicated to “the memory of American Indians who perished as heroes in the unfair war with treacherous invaders.”

    According to the author of the document, the request will be forwarded to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Moscow Mayor Sergey Sobyanin, and to the Russian Public Chamber.

    Public Chamber member Valery Korovin said in comments to RIA Novosti that the petition was timely and official support for it was very likely.

    “The initiative to install this monument is very urgent today because it would remind everyone how the history of the United States started. It must become a silent reproach to the modern-day American elites who have seriously diverged from the ideals that were made a foundation of American statehood,” Korovin told reporters.
    He also noted that activists should consider a separate petition calling on the US Congress to recognize the genocide of American Indians and to pass a law on the rehabilitation of Native Americans – which is necessary for the US “be done with this dark spot in their history.”

    “Without the repentance of US society it is impossible to talk about this country’s leadership. The United States now has no moral right to speak about the rights and freedoms of any ethnic groups,” he added.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:13 pm

    Fully aggree and support the Monument for native americans who were the factual real people subject to the biggest genocide in human history.
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    Post  Grazneyar Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:22 pm

    The USS Donald Cooke has been 'buzzed' again. Not sure what the official Russian response is but the Americans are complaining there was a simulated attack. From point blank range !?! I thought Russian anti-ship missiles had a longer range that didn't require 'buzzing' the target. The only attack that they could have been simulating would be a Kamikaze attack or straffing run. Will wait for official response from the Russians to compare the narratives.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:50 am

    Hahahaha... the country moving heavy armour into former Soviet States claims Russia is being aggressive by flying too close to the ship they are sending to the region to practise wargames with the locals intended to gain skills in fighting Russia...

    Boo Hoo...

    If you want other countries to follow unwritten rules of conduct how about you start by doing the same... no expansion of NATO into former warsaw pact nations, then no expansion of NATO into former soviet republics and then no NATO bases will move east and then no NATO bases in former Soviet republics... all lies.

    The soviets withdrew their troops from eastern europe... the US should have withdrawn from western europe... instead they moved into eastern europe and former soviet states and are now trying to get into the Ukraine... but don't fly close to their ships...
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    Post  Project Canada Sun May 08, 2016 6:31 am



    Anti-Russian Bill Announced in US Congress

    Representative Eliot L. Engel (D-NY), a ranking member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, and Representative Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, have introduced a comprehensive legislation to address the ongoing crisis in Ukraine.

    They were joined by an additional bipartisan group of 14 members to introduce the Stability and Democracy (STAND) for Ukraine Act (H.R. 5094), which toughens the position of the United States on the Russian Federation.

    If signed into law, the new bill would prevent the White House from lifting the sanctions against Russia until Ukraine «restores control over Crimea», or «settles the peninsula's status to Kiev's satisfaction».

    The proposed legislation tightens the existing sanctions on Russia and drives new innovations to provide support for Ukraine, including a push for greater private investment in the Ukrainian economy by minimizing and pooling political risk to would-be private investors.

    The bill would codify the US government’s policy of non-recognition of Russian authority over Crimea, mirroring the US policy of refusing to recognize Soviet sovereignty over the Baltic States. The document requires a regular report on foreign financial institutions that are «illicitly controlling» Ukraine state-owned assets – namely Russian banks in Crimea. The bill also directs the State Department to implement a strategy to respond to what the document calls «Russian propaganda and disinformation».

    The draft law imposes an Arms Export Control Act «presumption of denial» standard on any NATO member that transfers certain defense articles or services containing US technology or components to Russia while «Russia is forcibly occupying the territory of Ukraine or any NATO member». The bill extends the Magnitsky Act to the so-called «territories occupied or otherwise controlled by Russia» such as Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Transnistria.

    The timing makes the purpose clear. With the presidential election in sight, the introduced STAND for Ukraine Act places into statute the existing Executive Order sanctions imposed on Russia by Mr Obama, making sure the relationship with Russia will be damaged for a long time. A sitting President can cancel a pre-existing Executive Order at the moment he chooses, but repealing an existing legislation passed by the House and the Senate is a tall order. The new President would have to submit official certification to Congress that Ukraine «has restored its sovereignty over Crimea, or that alternatively the peninsula’s status has been resolved to the satisfaction of a sitting and democratically elected government in Kiev» prior to lifting the sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation.

    The bill was introduced against the background of serious deterioration of Russia-US relationship.

    It was announced right after the US President met leading NATO members in Hannover to state that the US and its NATO allies are planning to deploy four battalions consisting of four thousand soldiers to Poland and the Baltic countries.

    The White House plans to pay for the additional weapons and equipment with a budget request of more than $3.4 billion for military spending in Europe in 2017, more than quadrupling the current budget of $789 million. The weapons and equipment will be used by American and NATO forces, ensuring that the alliance can maintain a full armored combat brigade in the region at all times.

    The list of measures to complicate the Russia-US relationship can go on, but the proposed legislation stands out as the most long-lasting factor to prevent the improvement in the future in case it becomes a law.

    The Jackson-Vanik amendment to the Trade Act of 1974 went into force in 1975. The legislation was about the freedom of emigration from the USSR to become irrelevant in less than a dozen of years. It stood in the way of improving the relations for about 40 years just because it was hard to repeal. The amendment, which had no whatsoever relation to reality, was in force till the Magnitsky Act was signed into law in December, 2012.

    The STAND for Ukraine Act presupposes outright pressure on NATO allies to make them act in line with the US policy on Russia. One can hardly imagine NATO allies defence equipment employing no US technology. Time will pass, and the things will change. Some NATO members may not like the encroachment on their sovereignty. That’s not the way to treat allies.

    Another example – the US Air Force cannot do without Russian RD-180 rocket engines.

    Will the United States make an exception from the rule, while making European allies strictly comply with the sanctions in accordance with the STAND for Ukraine Act?

    If signed into a law, the legislation will spoil the relations with Russia for many years. The crisis in Ukraine will become a thing of the past and new problems will appear requiring joint efforts to tackle them, but the Act will obstruct any efforts to achieve positive results. No doubt, that many people who realize how much damage the legislation could do, keep their fingers crossed in hope the US lawmakers will be wise enough to prevent the bill from becoming a law.

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/05/06/anti-russian-bill-announced-in-us-congress.html

    I hope that Russia and China has already drawn up plans to dismantle the United states before the latter turns the world into a radiation cesspool
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    Post  BKP Tue May 17, 2016 5:40 pm

    Nuland Starts Moscow Visit by Meeting ‘Young Leaders’

    17:54 17.05.201

    US Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland has arrived in Moscow with an official visit and has met with Russian young leaders, US Embassy in Moscow spokesperson Will Stevens said in a Twitter message on Tuesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Earlier on Tuesday, the US Department of State announced that Nuland would meet with senior Russian officials to discuss the ongoing crisis in eastern Ukraine.

    "A/S [Assistant Secretary] Nuland kicked off her trip to Moscow by meeting with some of Russia's young leaders at the American Center," Stevens stated.

    Nuland has arrived in Moscow from Vienna, Austria, and will leave for Belgium on May 18, according to the State Department.    

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160517/1039762052/us-russia-talks-nuland.html#ixzz48vbQHzEg
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    Post  sepheronx Tue May 17, 2016 6:18 pm

    I still can't understand why they have not blacklisted her yet. There is a treasure trove of her dealings in Ukraine, making her a security threat in Russia. It is as if Russian gov wants planned protests and murder of authorities (by so called unknown snipers).
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    Post  BKP Wed May 18, 2016 4:09 am

    This is the way the world works:

    First case: Let's say I'm a run-of-the-mill guy, and I go bezerk for whatever reason. I go out and kill a few people with a pistol and a lead pipe. Following that, I'm quickly caught and tried. I go to prison for life, or am executed by the state. Simple.

    Second case: I'm a crime boss, and kill a lot more people than the first guy did. But, my criminal dealings have made me a considerable amount of money, some of which I have used to pay off law enforcement and judges. Also, I have a strong and thoroughly amoral legal team on my side. Maybe I eventually go to prison, but it takes much longer. And, until that day, I live the life of the well-to-do.

    Third case: I am a prominent figure within an influential faction of a very powerful rogue state. I arrange circumstances which result in the killing of many, many persons. Far more than in the first two cases. There is absolutely no chance I will ever face justice for my crimes. I can so take my immunity for granted that I don't even bother thinking about it. In fact, I am allowed to speak with and influence the "young leaders" among those very people whom I have victimized.

    If there were true universal justice, the witch would burn.

    On the brighter side, you can be sure that these "meetings" are thoroughly infiltrated by patriots.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed May 18, 2016 4:13 am

    And government. I know they monitor these things very thoroughly. But it just seems odd that Russia has banned so many others yet not her.
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:12 am

    Moscow's decision to halt the Russia-US Plutonium Management and Disposition Agreement (PMDA) is not aimed at a new wave of confrontation with the United States, a member of Russia's Federation Council Defense and Security Committee said Monday.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/20161003/1045948752/russia-us-plutonium-deal.html
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:35 pm

    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/08/trump-picks-hawkish-critic-of-russia-as-nato-ambassador-veering-from-one-extreme-to-the-other/

    Looks like Russian US relations will not improve under Trump. Are there no one intelligent and not a foaming at the mouth retard in the US?
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:38 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:https://theintercept.com/2017/03/08/trump-picks-hawkish-critic-of-russia-as-nato-ambassador-veering-from-one-extreme-to-the-other/

    Looks like Russian US relations will not improve under Trump. Are there no one intelligent and not a foaming at the mouth retard in the US?

    I can't express how sad and disappointed all of this makes me.

    It seems that it's true, that there is no such thing as a U.S. President who is Independent.

    Anyone who is running will promise anything, but once elected, they'll toe the line, or else, and it seems the Trump Administration is on a fast track to war, and disaster.  cry  cry  cry
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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:38 am

    miketheterrible wrote:https://theintercept.com/2017/03/08/trump-picks-hawkish-critic-of-russia-as-nato-ambassador-veering-from-one-extreme-to-the-other/

    Looks like Russian US relations will not improve under Trump. Are there no one intelligent and not a foaming at the mouth retard in the US?

    Rational. "Stop them now before they get too strong."

    Here is a refresher: Pentagon's Plan to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival - March 8, 1992.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/08/world/excerpts-from-pentagon-s-plan-prevent-the-re-emergence-of-a-new-rival.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

    The U.S will give up once it has collapsed. Not until then. The only way to collapse the U.S is to weaken its dollar and force hyper-inflation. Only way to do that is economic integration of Asia as well as providing an alternative to the U.S run financial system - aka BRICS (still in its baby phase).

    There is too much money involved for the Western block to ignore the rising Euroasia. It's no different that companies competing against each other. The big difference is that this competition takes place in all spheres imaginable and everything is on the table - limitless, barring kinetic war (between them) which is disastrous for both.
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    Post  eric1 Wed May 10, 2017 2:05 am

    I believe a new paradigm is required as per US and Russian relations and this paradigm is related to an adjustment with respect to America's foreign policy, which from the perspective of many, including myself, is imperialistic in its nature. In short, America wants to dictate the terms globally, particularly with respect to economics. This is the cause of much anti-Americanism around the world. The new paradigm, which I believe would benefit the entire globe, would be to return to the old concept of "Spheres of Influence". Currently, there are theoretical plans on the books to have the world divided up into about 10 regions. Clearly the major powers of those regions will be the key players in each of those regions. A global council consisting of representatives from each region would then be set up to insure that if one region abuses its power, then actions would be taken to reign in that abusing power. One nation trying to dominate the globe, whether it be America, China, or Russia is foolhardy in my estimation and will only result in never-ending global tension.
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    Post  George1 Wed May 17, 2017 2:26 pm

    Russia ready to provide transcript of Lavrov-Trump talks

    SOCHI, May 17. /TASS/. Russia is ready to provide a transcript of talks between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US President Donald Trump, if the US administration is not against this, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

    Putin made this statement after the Russian-Italian talks, commenting on the reports that Trump had allegedly shared secret data with Lavrov.

    "If the US administration considers it possible, we are ready to submit a transcript of Lavrov’s talk with Trump to the US Senate and Congress, if, of course, the US administration would want this," Putin said.


    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/946307
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Wed May 17, 2017 7:37 pm

    Well now its obvious even to the less intelligent among us that US is a tyranny controlled by this tiny artificial state of the middle east.
    The question is, does Trump controls the army. If the answer is yes, and I doubt, then IMO its the right time to strike first.
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    Post  Sochi_Olympic_Park Wed May 24, 2017 2:42 pm

    Current problems and conflicts in Russia-US relations are the echoes the times, when the cold war ended in Europe. Since the fall of Berlin wall in 1989 and later disintegration of Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union...United States of America has self proclaimed itself as the No.1 winner in Europe and champion of the New World Order.

    As the American scholar and professor emeritus of Russian studies at Princeton University and New York - Stephen F. Cohen and famous Russian Journalist, Reporter and Writer - Vladimir Pozner said on Munk Debates about Putin`s Russia : "Rational and progressive people have lost the debate in Washington D.C. about the agressive expansion of NATO and US military infrastructure toward Russian borders in 1990`s. And they allso lost the debate about the civil war and conflict in Ukraine today. Simply becouse hawks and militarists in Washington D.C. belived (and still belives) that United States is the only force on this planet capable to dominate and rulle the planet earth.




    This fact was also confirmed by US Foreign Policy experts and political scholars in Charles Koch Institute debates:



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:05 pm

    Not sure where to put this, only seen Lavrov with his diplomatic face on before, kinda lulling us into a false sense of benevolence.

    That man has a very ‘hard’ side that should not be underestimated in the US.


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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:19 am

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707271055931578-russia-pranksters-perry/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

    These guys are awesome.

    Pranking the energy minister in US proving that he is an idiot.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:04 pm

    It begins. Russia expels diplomats in Moscow, seizes property.

    Empires either collapse or subjugate. Happens every single time. There is no in-between. Certainly not for the U.S with it's "18 trillion" economy.

    The new cold war will result in either the break-up of new Russia or the collapse of the U.S, perhaps even a breakup/civil war if the petro dollar bubble bursts. Incomes are tight as it's and the safety net is a joke - specially healthcare. New ride for the next 10-30 years.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:26 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:It begins. Russia expels diplomats in Moscow, seizes property.

    Empires either collapse or subjugate. Happens every single time. There is no in-between. Certainly not for the U.S with it's "18 trillion" economy.

    The new cold war will result in either the break-up of new Russia or the collapse of the U.S, perhaps even a breakup/civil war if the petro dollar bubble bursts. Incomes are tight as it's and the safety net is a joke - specially healthcare. New ride for the next 10-30 years.

    you are looking at it too simple. Russia won't break up even if they back down. Current day Russia is united simply because majority of the nation 90+% are ethnic Russians. Same goes for the US. It simply will go to bad relations to possible good ones eventually when someone decides to melt the ice.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:05 pm

    Now we know the numbers, 575 are genuine US staff the 180 others are local staff employed by the US. Assume there are family members on top of this. A huge upheaval.

    Just find it amazing at the number. Non of course were there to influence Russian elections  Laughing

    When Russia warned on Friday that it would retaliate proportionately after it announced it would seize two diplomatic compounds used by the US in Russia and added that it would reduce the number of US diplomatic service staff in the country to equal the number of Russian diplomats in the US by September 1, calculated by the local press at 455, it wasn't joking.

    Moments ago, speaking in an interview on the Rossiya 1 TV channel, Vladimir Putin said that 755 American diplomats will be expelled, or as he phrased it "will have to leave Russia as a result of Washington's own policies", a move which as we previewed on Friday, will make the diplomatic missions of Russia and the United States working in the both countries equal.

    "The American side has made a move which, it is important to note, hasn't been provoked by anything, to worsen Russian-US relations. [It includes] unlawful restrictions, attempts to influence other states of the world, including our allies, who are interested in developing and keeping relations with Russia," Putin told channel host, Vladimir Solovyov, Sunday.

    "The personnel of the US diplomatic missions in Russia will be cut by 755 people and will now equal the number of the Russian diplomatic personnel in the United States, 455 people on each side."

    Finally, the Russian president said that the time for retaliation has come: "we've been waiting for quite a long time that maybe something would change for the better, we had hopes that the situation would change. But it looks like, it's not going to change in the near future... I decided that it is time for us to show that we will not leave anything unanswered."

    According to Reuters, Putin also said that Russia is able to impose additional measures against U.S. but he is against such moves.

    And now we await the US retaliation in what is once again the same tit-for-tat escalation that marked the latter years of the Obama regime, as the US Military Industrial Complex breathes out a sigh of relief that for all the posturing by Trump, things between Russia and the US are back on autopilot.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-30/its-time-retaliate-putin-expels-755-us-diplomats
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:39 pm

    More angles:

    Trump sidesteps impeachment trap in sanctions law and prepares challenge to Supreme Court


    http://theduran.com/trump-sidesteps-impeachment-trap-sanctions-law-prepares-challenge-supreme-court/
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    Post  ATLASCUB Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:25 pm

    It's on baby!

    The Russian Consulate in San Francisco, as well as two annex buildings in Washington and New York, will have to close by September 2, the US State Department announced in response to Moscow ordering the US to reduce its diplomatic personnel in Russia.

    https://www.rt.com/news/401613-russian-consulate-us-closure/

    Only gonna get worse for the foreseeable future....specially when ISIS folds.....

    Ukraine still in the cards as well...... hopefully Gorby is watching...soon from hell.

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