Regular wrote:Thanks for the link. But what makes it better made than other Lada cars? Still it has to have most of it's parts that were already shared between Kalina and other infamous models.sepheronx wrote:@ Regular: Read the article I submitted. Granta is one of the best sold cars in Russia, as well, it is a pretty good exporter to the CIS countries as well, with Ukraine and Kazakhstan buying them.
I'm not considering buying Lada or any Russian car in particular.. Just wondering if there is any light in the industry.
For me there is nothing to choose from, no proper sedan, no 7 seater, no cross-hatch, I'm not talking about engine options.
I hate Russian TV boasting about how Granta is new gen car and how it's superior to inomarki. Romania, poorest country in the Europe have same looking car made in their Dacia warehouse, but with more options and arguably better looks.
I don't see the reason why Russian car makers couldn't target people who have 20,000 - 50,000 Euros to spend on a new car. Market is quite hungry for this type of cars too.
Lada could be easily transformed in to something like Skoda and it would redeem it's name.
Skoda Auto is doing pretty good by being part of VW concern while having unique models based on VW/AUDI concern components and they are Eastern Europeans. Funny thing, I find quality of Skoda build cars better their owner VW. Octavia comes to mind being better than Passat.
Besides what you hear, do you know much about the Granta? Granta is best selling not because they say so, but because the numbers say so. It is better because, since Renault-Nissan took over, they really pushed the quality of the parts out. As well, the engine is one thing, the HP it can produce is different. Do you need a 300hp car? No. Chances are, you will never use it. 100 - 108hp? Yeah, that sounds about right, even for long distances. It usually helps with fuel consumption as well. The engines are usually mistubishi engines(?) but I am not entirely sure.
Luxery is a market that Lada will never dominate simply because the name in itself. When people want luxery, they think of BMW, Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, etc. They would need to come up with a subsiduary like Toyota did with Lexus, and sell premium cars that way. But even then, any association may prevent massive sales simply because of the name connection.
You can have all the bells and whistles in a Lada Granta sport, but it is going to cost you. As well, there is always the Aquila that looks like it will be luxery for a low cost. Avtovaz is more or less a Renault-Nissan company now, more so than its own. And obviously, they are doing better than they once did.