That's not counting Ks those who AVOID THE DRAFT!
As the Ukrainian saying goes: Нема дурных!-nema durnych!
An expert explained that both tanks represent a cost-effective upgrade package of the Soviet-designed main battle tanks. The upgrade of T-64 and T-72 tanks allows a significant expansion of their combat capabilities with minimal investments.
George1 wrote:Kharkov Armored Plant continues to modernize the T-64BV and T-80BV tanks
no, i just meant if Kharkov should join Novorossia or even directly Russia in the next 5 years, not If it remains in the ukraine.GarryB wrote:The fact that it is still working and is largely intact suggest someone with power owns it... which suggests good relations with Russia are not likely any time.
Russia is putting T-90 stuff in their T-80s so there is little trade/interaction likely... any Ukrainian parts they adopt will be at the expense of new Russian parts so why would you reward the Orcs?
Ukraine get 37 BMP 1 wich buy in 2019 from Poland.If I good remember Poland buy these BMPs from Czechs for twice cheaper price and sell to Ukraine for twice expensive price
The company purchased decommissioned BMP-1 weapons from the 1980s from Wtorplast from Poland. The Polish company, in turn, initially bought them from the Czech company Excalibur Army at € 20-25 thousand per unit - at the price of scrap metal, according to documents available to HB. Wtorplast dismantled the BMP - it separated the towers from the chassis.
Further, ZHBZ imported all this separately to Ukraine: each tower was estimated at $ 66 thousand, and each chassis - at $ 99 thousand. The plant “repaired” the BMP - simply connected previously disassembled parts. The cost of work was another $ 40 thousand per unit.
As a result, a BMP worth € 20 thousand cost the Ukrainian defense budget $ 205 thousand. Last year alone, under the contract with the ZhBZ, the Ministry of Defense bought 200 military vehicles, spending $ 41 million on them.
Military experts wonder why the ministry should buy old BMPs at all Abroad. So, the Kharkov Tractor Plant produces a lightweight analogue of infantry fighting vehicles, says Anton Mikhnenko, an analyst at the Army Research Center. In addition, there are developments that allow the production of infantry fighting vehicles in Ukraine.
magnumcromagnon wrote:Ukrainian MIC amounts to glorified maket makers. Their new IFV probably performs like dog-shit, see the Oplot and the BTR-4 for reference. The welding seams on their AFV's are as resilient as the seams on a sliced peanut butter and jelly sandwich's. It goes to show that the Russians were the brains behind their MIC...when they left, the quality went with them, and were even starting to see the same phenomenon in Belarus' MIC as well.
George1 wrote:Ukrainian project of the Otaman armored personnel carrier with a 6x6 wheel arrangement