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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:08 pm

    Zhirinovsky is a hard anti west nationalist sort of guy.... I doubt he would be supporting foreign interests...

    It is probably more likely he has a few skeletons in his closet and it is easier to come out against it now and pretend when his dead bodies are found that it is just an attack on him for standing up for his colleague...

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:22 pm

    GarryB wrote:Zhirinovsky is a hard anti west nationalist sort of guy.... I doubt he would be supporting foreign interests...

    It is probably more likely he has a few skeletons in his closet and it is easier to come out against it now and pretend when his dead bodies are found that it is just an attack on him for standing up for his colleague...


    Last year it was exposed that his son has a huge mansion in Miami, FL or something like that around those lines.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:09 pm

    He is an opportunist. Much like everyone else. He hates the west because he knows they would control him if he was buddies with them and he had power. But he also acts like a mafioso.  Yeah, his son obtain lots of money and I doubt through legitimate means. And yes, owns a mansion outside of Russia.  So he will do what he can to also protect his sons interest.

    No, Zhirinovsky isn't a US stooge. He is his own stooge. He at least does push for nationalism which I support. He is just a shitty leader.  LDPR could do wonders if it had a young and smart leader. Instead it has a loud mouth idiot who appeared in some kind of soft core porn back in the 90's. Now try to get that image out of your head.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:41 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:He is an opportunist. Much like everyone else. He hates the west because he knows they would control him if he was buddies with them and he had power. But he also acts like a mafioso.  Yeah, his son obtain lots of money and I doubt through legitimate means. And yes, owns a mansion outside of Russia.  So he will do what he can to also protect his sons interest.

    No, Zhirinovsky isn't a US stooge. He is his own stooge. He at least does push for nationalism which I support. He is just a shitty leader.  LDPR could do wonders if it had a young and smart leader. Instead it has a loud mouth idiot who appeared in some kind of soft core porn back in the 90's.  Now try to get that image out of your head.

    ZeroNoNothing is such a 'nationalist' that he wanted to concede to Japan and advocated to start selling the Kurille Islands back to Japan. Because of Russian ownership of the Kurille Islands, Russia won a bid at the United Nations which acknowledged the Sea of Okhotsk as an exclusive economic zone of the Federation. Had ZeroNoNothing had his way (his island selling scheme predated the successful judgement) Russia would be fighting Japan on who could do what in the Sea of Okhotsk (with US backing no doubt).

    Putin is to de Gaulle as ZeroNoNothing is to Marshall Petain. Zero represents pseudo-patriotism, the type that makes you subservient to foreign powers, the same kind Boris Yeltsin and Donald Trump subscribes to.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:44 pm

    I don't know about that. I seem to recall his live debates where he would be screaming about the notion of selling the islands. Maybe at one point he suggested it. But on channel1 he sure didn't.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:53 am

    Isn't Zhirinovsky always the first to complain about Russia not taking military action against the west (not a good idea right now but certainly not a treasonous suggestion).

    Does he care about his son at all? If I had a son who went to live in pindostan, I would disown him.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:37 am

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Isn't Zhirinovsky always the first to complain about Russia not taking military action against the west (not a good idea right now but certainly not a treasonous suggestion)...

    Loudest nationalists are always biggest pussies

    Our latest viral nationalist for example is a fucking draft dodger who works for Soros



    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    Does he care about his son at all? If I had a son who went to live in pindostan, I would disown him.

    Why on Earth would he disown his plan B?

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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:59 pm

    Well if all this is true then Russia needs a new nationalist candidate....

    What are the chances, if any that I could run for Russian president?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:43 pm

    Most nationalists run for the United Russia party because they have the best chances. Now they get a lot of younger people too.

    LDPR also gets young people too. It is Communist party that gets either old people or those I dont consider people (wannabe commies).
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 pm

    A big blow to the
    @StateDept
    ’s quest to “change the regime” in Russia.

    From August 3, it will be impossible to add cash to unidentified e-wallets in Russia. According to the new rules, if the customer has not been identified, they can only deposit funds using a bank account.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/O_Rich_/status/1290309536750817282?cxt=HHwWhMCmxf7rjOgjAAAA

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    Post  kvs on Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:07 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:A big blow to the
    @StateDept
    ’s quest to “change the regime” in Russia.

    From August 3, it will be impossible to add cash to unidentified e-wallets in Russia. According to the new rules, if the customer has not been identified, they can only deposit funds using a bank account.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/O_Rich_/status/1290309536750817282?cxt=HHwWhMCmxf7rjOgjAAAA

    This sort illicit funds control should have been implemented earlier. The government and legislators are always years behind the curve.
    Since we are dealing with the prime national security issue, they need to get their ignorant asses in gear.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:56 am

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/who-is-curating-the-pigeon-maidan-in-khabarovsk/

    Russia still has a major problem on their hands.

    Essentially, open Russia foundation which is banned in Russia still operates and works with one of the top 10 media portals in Russia and promotes fake news and protests.

    And of course, nothing is done about it.

    Laws are meaningless in Russia.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:47 pm

    No one has Answered my question about the possibility of a foreigner becoming Russian president. I suppose most though I was joking, but I am genuinely curious.

    If it is possible what are the criteria?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:53 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:No one has Answered my question about the possibility of a foreigner becoming Russian president. I suppose most though I was joking, but I am genuinely curious.

    If it is possible what are the criteria?

    No.

    As of old rules, you have to be a native Russian. New rules add in that you cannot have a dual citizenship or ever lived in a foreign country. Now to get into higher end of politics, you cannot have had dual citizenship or lived in another country for 25 years.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:37 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Now to get into higher end of politics, you cannot have had dual citizenship or lived in another country for 25 years.

    So does that mean not having foreign citizenship for more than 25 years or not at all if you have ever had foreign citizenship?

    If the former what is the highest possible rank attainable?

    We are really just talking about theoretical possibilities here, I doubt a foreigner will ever become a Russian politician that would just be silly..... well it was possible in Soviet times, let us just hope that such marxist internationalist bullshit is eradicated.
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    Post  Hole on Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:26 pm

    That means you can´t hold a russian and a german passport at the same time. Living in a foreign country in the last 25 years is for holders of russian passports. Which means that Abramovitsch can´t become a minister or president.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:56 am

    [quote="Hole"]That means you can´t hold a russian and a german passport at the same time. Living in a foreign country in

    So wait are you saying that you only need to be a citizen of Russia for 25 years without having a non Russian passport in order to run for president?

    That seens a little too easy.
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    Post  Hole on Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:17 pm

    An example for our slow thinking members: If you are 50 years old and want to be a minister you can´t have dual citizenship or lived in Italy fpr a month when you were 35 years old. If you lived there when you were 12 it´s OK.
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    Post  par far on Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:38 pm

    "Despite small gains for the far right & Navalny, Russia’s weekend elections don’t suggest any major political change is imminent."

    Who are the idiots that voted for them.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/500748-navalny-poisoning-saga-russia-elections/
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:52 pm

    Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.

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    Post  kvs on Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:58 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.


    I hope it stays that way. But voters are being stupid by giving this 5th column any chance at all. Too many in Russia still live under
    the distorted reality of "it's better in the west" and "Russia is doomed". I would ban all foreign financed political movements and parties
    in Russia. If this is "oppression" to some idiots, then those idiots can bugger on off to their NATzO promised land.

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    Post  par far on Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:01 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.


    I hope it stays that way.   But voters are being stupid by giving this 5th column any chance at all.   Too many in Russia still live under
    the distorted reality of "it's better in the west" and "Russia is doomed".    I would ban all foreign financed political movements and parties
    in Russia.   If this is "oppression" to some idiots, then those idiots can bugger on off to their NATzO promised land.


    Is this dangerous?

    Hopefully FSB and other intelligence agencies are active in the cities they got votes in.
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    Post  calripson on Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:14 pm

    Is it dangerous? Yes. Every cancer starts with a few mutated cells. The paradox is the people who benefited most in modern Russia - young educated Yuppies are the most susceptible to Western propaganda. The poorer and more rural the people the more pro-Putin and generally pro-Russia they are. You see a similarly situation in America with Trump absent of racial differences. Part of this is explained by the "educated" component - being subject to indoctrination by the Russian intelligentsia (perhaps the historically most pathologically anti-Russian element of society) leads to this outcome in many cases. Secondly is the economic component - being relatively wealthy makes people want more not less and they see Putin (falsely) as an impediment to greater wealth and prosperity. Why do they as IT specialists in Novosibirsk make less than IT specialists in Poland or even Germany? Why is must be Putin of course!

    Political control of major cities has way more weight than people think. Once again look at America - the synthetic riots in Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis are tolerated and enabled by local and state politicians. No one really cares what happens out in the boonies.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:26 pm

    you guys are far from smart compared to Russia's intelligence agencies. Getting scared of these nobodies is pointless. They always get some kind of token position. In the 90's and early 2000's Navalny's people ended up with 10% of the votes and more positions. Now days, they get a token position. United Russia still stands firm.

    Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.
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    Post  calripson on Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:you guys are far from smart compared to Russia's intelligence agencies.  Getting scared of these nobodies is pointless.  They always get some kind of token position.  In the 90's and early 2000's Navalny's people ended up with 10% of the votes and more positions.  Now days, they get a token position.  United Russia still stands firm.

    Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.

    I'm sure people in the USSR in 1980 felt the same way.

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