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    Post  starman on Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:53 am

    GarryB wrote:We have no idea what their dietary needs are... for all we know they might have taken parts we don't even understand in our primative level... we are still learning new things about the human body for goodness sake…

    Very Happy It's highly naive to take most alien activities at face value. Apparent "research" or harvesting are just part of acclimation.

    There is insufficient information to be sure about anything... your comment is illogical....  🖖

    More like you hope... as do I.

    I'm basing it on the phenomenon, all aspects of which are ultimately comprehensible i.e. rational.

    They likely observed us long enough to know we are fucking mental and are probably now monitoring our progress and hoping we kill ourselves before we start really expanding into space and killing others.

    If they really thought there was no hope for us and they'd be better off with us dead we'd probably be dead already.


    ... but if it could have developed somewhere else and arrived here could it not also have developed here too... it just sounds unnecessary... are they saying life could have developed on a comet or asteroid in space or on a planet that the life survived the destruction of and then landed on earth to restart development from acids and chemicals into actual life with a water rich environment…

    Good points. I never believed in "panspermia."
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:52 pm

    Revealing ET without lengthy acclimation would only make an awful mess of everything.
    It's been announced not long ago that there r planets more suitable & hospitable to life than the Earth- if so, many would have developed advanced lifeforms on them. To deny that would be illogical. Most people r either indifferent or open minded to the possibility of ETs & their presence in the Solar System. There r also UFO cults out there. So, the problem is not admitting that they exist, but how will societies react to the potential threat posed by their involvement in our affairs. To this day, there is no unified strategy/policy by successive governments to deal with this issue. 
    We don't even have proven methods to defend us from space rocks yet.
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    Post  starman on Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:14 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:It's been announced not long ago that there r planets more suitable & hospitable to life than the Earth

    More suitable??


    Most people r either indifferent or open minded to the possibility of ETs & their presence in the Solar System.

    Acclimation has made progress, certainly. But almost nobody would be indifferent to an open revelation of ETs here, and too many people would still have a highly adverse reaction.

    There r also UFO cults out there.

    All or most are pretty foolish, no doubt because, not knowing much about the phenomenon, they make it a creature of their imagination. The late R. Bletchman rightly characterized their ideas as "New Age cockamamie."


    So, the problem is not admitting that they exist, but how will societies react to the potential threat posed by their involvement in our affairs.

    It is precisely because society is still not ready that admitting they're real and here is for the future.



    To this day, there is no unified strategy/policy by successive governments to deal with this issue. 

    Laughing I think there is. As The Alien Grand Design points out, all ET varieties have essentially the same policy, as do all earthly governments (with regard to the phenomenon at least…).
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:30 am

    More suitable??

    In an infinite universe then everything is possible including a planet where the rivers run with pure hot coffee... through glades of cookie trees where you can sail around on a boat and pluck cookies from the overhanging trees and dunk them straight into the river you are sailing on...

    So hiding UFOs from the public is not something the elites (most of them anyway) would do.

    I would cite incompetence as also being a reason they could not hide such things from the public... they are just too inept.

    Believing in aliens is a bit like believing in god... it is an attempt to bring order to the chaos... and a way to wash your hands of the problems... gods plan and god moves in mysterious ways and all that shit...

    All the 1% are good at is accumulating money and then using that money to accumulate more and securing their position so they can continue to do what they are doing... lets face it... if Russian hackers weren't interfering in US elections then you might actually take the time to look at what the two white old rich male candidates are talking about and realise what shit they are both spewing and how they were created by the current situation and they don't want that to change at all... they got rich in this environment so why would they want to change it? Wow... that means looking at third party candidates... what you say... what third party candidates? Do they exist?

    No says the 1%... they don't... and voting for them is just throwing your vote away... but if everyone did it they might realise a change is needed because a change is needed... 🖖
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:57 am

    I voted not so much for Biden but against Trump. Hope Harris will become our President with some other Asian/Latino/Black/Native/mixed as Vice President, so those White bigots, racists & xenophobes start bitching again as they did during the Obama years.
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    Post  starman on Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:32 am

    GarryB wrote:
    In an infinite universe…

    The Universe is not infinite, and I meant what specific examples of planets more suitable for life than ours are known.


    I would cite incompetence as also being a reason they could not hide such things from the public... they are just too inept.

    They hid the ULTRA secret for 30 years after the war even though there was no longer any strong need to conceal it.

    Believing in aliens is a bit like believing in god... it is an attempt to bring order to the chaos... and a way to wash your hands of the problems... gods plan and god moves in mysterious ways and all that shit…

    Na, unlike "god" UFOs are empirical. Many people believe in "god" on faith and reject UFOlogy despite evidence. Unlike belief in "god," belief in aliens is often discouraged--not what you'd expect if they're a solution now. Lastly while "god acts in mysterious ways" because religious belief is utterly at odds with the real world, the phenomenon is ultimately rational and consistent with it.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:23 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:I voted not so much for Biden but against Trump. Hope Harris will become our President with some other Asian/Latino/Black/Native/mixed as Vice President, so those White bigots, racists & xenophobes start bitching again as they did during the Obama years.

    So you voted for the US imperial war party. As for white racism. WTF is that? Where in the US are "whites" prospering at
    the expense of "minorities". I see the opposite.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:36 pm

    [url= jon_kremser@yahoo.ca, mike_itkis@yahoo.com, mklurfeld@hotmail.com, nyles314@hotmail.com, ruckercr@icloud.com, sgavurin1@yahoo.com,]Democrats r lesser of the 2 evils[/url]; Trump & his cronies rn't that anti-imperial. 
    I'm glad to be in a small town w/o many troublemakers of any race. I've got my piece of the American pie, & as the Russian saying goes: "my hut is on the edge, don't know anything!"


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:56 am

    I would agree with KVS... one of the criticisms of Trump is that he is trying to bring US military people out of shitholes like Afghanistan and the broken parts of Syria where they are essentially the support team for ISIS.

    The Clinton party would send more kids to fight for the oil and rare minerals in syria and afghanistan respectively....

    But obviously vote for either white rich guy that does not give a shit about anything... the 1% runs everything anyway.

    Note black people still got murdered by cops when Obama was in power and if Hilary had won women would still complain they were not being treated as equals...
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    Post  starman on Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:15 am

    Alleged smuggling of classified material out of military custody is hardly new. That is how the "alien interview" vid and "MJ12" documents supposedly became known. In fact things of this nature are deliberately leaked, either as part of acclimation or to disseminate misleading views.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:00 pm

    Potentially up to 12.32B Earth-like habitable planets in the Milky Way, calculated from the data here:
    https://focus.ua/technologies/466440-uchenye-nazvali-kolichestvo-potencialno-obitaemyh-planet-v-mlechnom-puti

    https://focus.ua/technologies/464473-uchenye_nashli_24_ekzoplanety_s_luchshimi_usloviiami_dlia_zhizni_chem_na_zemle



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    Post  starman on Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:14 am

    The usual narrative of government "investigation" of UFOs beginning in 1947 is misleading to say the least. The Twining memo, and so much else, is misinformed intended to hide secrets not get at the truth. If only people were aware of The Alien Grand Design the only work which cuts through all the bull...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:07 pm

    This book is cheaper & is about the same thing: The Alien Plan for Earth


    More than 300M worlds with similar conditions to Earth are scattered throughout the Milky Way galaxy.


    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-nasa-300-million-planets-milky-way-galaxy-20201107-ignb25ainvckdk55zxlbknvfli-story.html



    ‘It’s not a question of belief’: the film examining government UFO records 


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    Post  starman on Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:06 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:This book is cheaper & is about the same thing: 

    The newer edition The Alien Grand Design is better.

    Btw what do people make of the Marcel "journal"?http://starvisions.blogspot.com/2019/10/marcels-journal.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:52 pm

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    Post  starman on Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:10 am

    Interesting. The Australian cases of greatest interest to me were some time ago e.g. Rosedale.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:26 am

    https://www.sciencealert.com/dark-chemistry-could-forge-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-space-no-stars-required

    https://www.foxnews.com/science/tunguska-event-iron-asteroid-went-back-into-space


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    Post  starman on Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:51 am

    Tunguska has sometimes been touted as a UFO event but I see no evidence for that.
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    Post  Sujoy on Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:00 pm

    Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

    https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405

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    Post  lyle6 on Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:06 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

    https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405


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    Post  starman on Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:55 am

    Lol, nice cartoon. Zionists are currently predominant but I don't think ETs are in contact with Israel. They know who will be the ultimate world leader. For all the power  zionists have now, they're not the wave of the future. Not any more than the USSR was; there was no real  "Russian Roswell."  The Alien Grand Design shows what the role of Israel and its supporters will be, and it's not exactly enviable….
    That said but is true that humanity is still not ready.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:40 pm

    Next Hollywood movie about space war will be good !!

    Propaganda horseshit trying to make israeli the best race on earth because thyy talk with little green and pink men when no other human isn't allowed.

    Not only are they God's choosen people but also alien's choosen people. Rolling Eyes .

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    Post  starman on Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:46 am

    [quote="Isos"]
    Not only are they God's choosen people but also alien's choosen people. Rolling Eyes .

    The former is a myth and the latter isn't true. In all the years since 1947 this is the first report of an ET-Israeli link and the story isn't credible e.g. "an underground base in the depths of Mars with US astronauts and alien representatives...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:35 am

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