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    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:48 pm

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    Morons...morons everywhere... Razz

    British Expert Names Two Biggest Obstacles for Western Propaganda in Russia

    A new article by a Chatham House think tank fellow offers up two obstacles for the Western media in Russia and one pundit finds a solution.


    http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150805/1025436018.html

    According to the author, Keir Giles, the biggest obstacles to that are InoSMI ("Foreign Media"), a website which offers translations of foreign media articles and the Federal Security Service's SORM system, which can track Internet activity under a court order.

    So basically the "obstacles" are that Evil Putin censors out all kinds of Enlightenment and Liberty from the Free West and so Free West cannot persuade Russian to rebels for DemoCrazy and FreeDoom like the West lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:21 am

    Very very Off Topic Off Topic  but... a small gift from Vietnam: a certain investigation from PEW show that Vietnam is amongst the top of Russian Lovers in the world. 75% Vietnamese have positive view about Russia, while only 10% have negative view.

    According to PEW's list, other Russian Lover is Ghana (56 vs 27), China (51 vs 37), India (43 vs 17), South Korea (46 vs 43, really ? Shocked Shocked )

    Top of Russia Haters are Jordan and Poles.

    http://vtc.vn/viet-nam-dung-dau-the-gioi-ve-ung-ho-nga-va-tong-thong-putin.311.566131.htm

    Don't know for sure about the relability of the research, but I sincerely hope that our Vietnam's love for Russia will be maintained at high level. Recently I have met some of Russophobe bullshit scums and their ignorance makes me really sad.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:52 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Very very Off Topic Off Topic  but... a small gift from Vietnam: a certain investigation from PEW show that Vietnam is amongst the top of Russian Lovers in the world. 75% Vietnamese have positive view about Russia, while only 10% have negative view.

    According to PEW's list, other Russian Lover is Ghana (56 vs 27), China (51 vs 37), India (43 vs 17), South Korea (46 vs 43, really ? Shocked Shocked )

    Top of Russia Haters are Jordan and Poles.

    http://vtc.vn/viet-nam-dung-dau-the-gioi-ve-ung-ho-nga-va-tong-thong-putin.311.566131.htm

    Don't know for sure about the relability of the research, but I sincerely hope that our Vietnam's love for Russia will be maintained at high level. Recently I have met some of Russophobe bullshit scums and their ignorance makes me really sad.

    higurashihougi, what's your opinion on the recent moves the U.S have made to get Vietnam into the TPP?

    P.S: The Poles i get, But what Russia ever do to Jordan??
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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:53 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:P.S: The Poles i get, But what Russia ever do to Jordan??
    Russia has never done anything bad to Jordan, but usually Sunni muslims suffer a heavy propaganda against Russian (they solidarize with the "Republic of Ishkeria"), while Russia in the Middle East usually sides with the Shia (Iran, Hezbollah, Syria). I guess Saudi Arabia must be very close to Jordan in hate against Russia; it just surprises me that the former country doesn't exceeds the later in this.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:08 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:P.S: The Poles i get, But what Russia ever do to Jordan??
    Russia has never done anything bad to Jordan, but usually Sunni muslims suffer a heavy propaganda against Russian (they solidarize with the "Republic of Ishkeria"), while Russia in the Middle East usually sides with the Shia (Iran, Hezbollah, Syria). I guess Saudi Arabia must be very close to Jordan in hate against Russia; it just surprises me that the former country doesn't exceeds the later in this.

    There are many Chechens in Jordan who fled there in the wake of Stalin's deportation of Chechens during WWII.
    Khattab of was a Jordanian of Chechen extraction I believe. But I am not 100% sure.

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:50 am

    kvs wrote:Khattab of was a Jordanian of Chechen extraction I believe.   But I am not 100% sure.  
    No, he was Saudi.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:47 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:higurashihougi, what's your opinion on the recent moves the U.S have made to get Vietnam into the TPP?

    I just hope that the TPP disease can get away from Vietnam.

    The 10% anti-Russia in Vietnam is intensively advertise for TPP, they blah blah bleh about bullshit like Divine Captain America will help Vietnam to fight against Evil China lol! lol!

    Somehow their ignorance makes me feel sick.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:39 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:higurashihougi, what's your opinion on the recent moves the U.S have made to get Vietnam into the TPP?

    I just hope that the TPP disease can get away from Vietnam.

    The 10% anti-Russia in Vietnam is intensively advertise for TPP, they blah blah bleh about bullshit like Divine Captain America will help Vietnam to fight against Evil China lol! lol!

    Somehow their ignorance makes me feel sick.

    Somehow i can not understand the 10% that are so willing to ass lick USA a nation that has committed such cruel atrocities that vietnamese till this very date are suffering and even dying from like Monsanto's Agent Orange with genetic destruction and deformed children are born or right out dead born.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:21 am

    Werewolf wrote:Somehow i can not understand the 10% that are so willing to ass lick USA a nation that has committed such  cruel atrocities that vietnamese till this very date are suffering and even dying from like Monsanto's Agent Orange with genetic destruction and deformed children are born or right out dead born.

    U.S. citizens are also victims, from the war veteran who are exposed to Agent Orange, to the pesticide, Roundup, GMO shits. Or meaningless wars which caused thousands of U.S. deaths, and thousands of U.S. mothers lost their sons and husbands.

    The United States needs a revolution.
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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:39 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Somehow i can not understand the 10% that are so willing to ass lick USA a nation that has committed such  cruel atrocities that vietnamese till this very date are suffering and even dying from like Monsanto's Agent Orange with genetic destruction and deformed children are born or right out dead born.

    U.S. citizens are also victims, from the war veteran who are exposed to Agent Orange, to the pesticide, Roundup, GMO shits. Or meaningless wars which caused thousands of U.S. deaths, and thousands of U.S. mothers lost their sons and husbands.

    The United States needs a revolution.

    Thousands in a country with the total population of 325 mln people compared with several mln's of around 5-6 mln people with a population of 93 mln people.Barely any american has even remotley dreams of how war is, while Vietnamese have seen it for years and see the after effects of chemical genocide till this date and in future.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:37 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:higurashihougi, what's your opinion on the recent moves the U.S have made to get Vietnam into the TPP?

    I just hope that the TPP disease can get away from Vietnam.

    The 10% anti-Russia in Vietnam is intensively advertise for TPP, they blah blah bleh about bullshit like Divine Captain America will help Vietnam to fight against Evil China lol! lol!

    Somehow their ignorance makes me feel sick.

    Ok, then what about the Vietnamese government itself, are they promoting this or are they pretty much undecided, what it look like on your end?
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    Post  Prince Darling on Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:12 am



    i think this video is absolutely great, you can compare the brilliant central europe and balkans metaphore for European distorted view of the balkans in the 90s, to todays view of EU political elite (not soo much the majority of the population) of Russia.

    its just soo simple in the minds of spin doctors
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    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:22 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:Ok, then what about the Vietnamese government itself, are they promoting this or are they pretty much undecided, what it look like on your end?

    I believe that the goverment doesn't have any illusion about it. We still keep good relationship with Russia and other old friends in the ex-Socialist Block. Russia-Vietnam cooperation is still maintained at high level.

    The official policy of the government is keeping the neutrality as much as possible and make friends to everyone if possible.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:02 am

    Prince Darling wrote:

    i think this video is absolutely great, you can compare the brilliant central europe and balkans metaphore for European distorted view of the balkans in the 90s, to todays view of EU political elite (not soo much the majority of the population) of Russia.

    its just soo simple in the minds of spin doctors

    Zhizhek being fucking brilliant. We're all animals in a zoo. And we like double headed eagles for a reason... clown
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    Post  Werewolf on Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:28 pm

    Just had to post this and how indoctrinated and through and through inbred the west and majority of westerners are by being educated since childhood to hate russians which some do not make even a secret out off it and just say what they truelly think.

    And they are more than happy to see russians die but poor poor bacon and precious democratic west.

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    Post  eehnie on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:03 am

    Werewolf wrote:Just had to post this and how indoctrinated and through and through inbred the west and majority of westerners are by being educated since childhood to hate russians which some do not make even a secret out off it and just say what they truelly think.

    And they are more than happy to see russians die but poor poor bacon and precious democratic west.

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    Do not think the people in Europe is as indoctrinated. Many politicians and many media workers are just as nuts as it seems, since they have benefits and even are payed for it (media workers), but the citizens in many countries think not the same. The people in overall terms want not a war, and dislike people like Netanyahu, Bush, Poroshenko, Shakasvili... The people will not follow them in their efforts for war.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:44 am

    American Eagle wrote:Do you mean the False Flag GRU operation in Odessa???

    I love you maing...could you please post at the introduction thread. I'd like to pel...welcome you the appropriate way. Oh and GRU false flag? Puh lease step up dat trolling game ma cracka'.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:41 am

    American Eagle wrote:It was a joke! But I admire our friendly Ukrainian nation for their determination in repelling foreign aggression in ODessa.

    Trolling ain't no joke Baby Bald. Strike 2, Maing. Burning pensioners alive is (sic) "repelling foreign aggression" now?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:54 am

    American Eagle wrote:harsh circumstances require equally harsh actions... remember?

    There is beauty in applying Controlled Terror, like we do in Iraq & Syria.

    Harsh wut? What is the harsh circumstance that requires burning unarmed people and claiming they were terrorists?

    Applying Controlled Terror? In Iraq? In Afghanistan maybe, but in Iraq? You mean your guys with the Shahada flags and the fingers pointed up north? Wow aren't you quite the character, ladyboy?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:56 am

    Werewolf wrote:Just had to post this and how indoctrinated and through and through inbred the west and majority of westerners are by being educated since childhood to hate russians which some do not make even a secret out off it and just say what they truelly think.

    And they are more than happy to see russians die but poor poor bacon and precious democratic west.

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    I think that was sarcastic...unless I haven't understood the background of this.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:14 pm

    American Eagle wrote:Short term interests of the Ukrainian state require maximum possible suppression of anti-Ukrainian sentiments accross the country using all means deemed necessary.

    Long term interests include removing all elements bearing anti-Ukrainian sentiments from Odessa and replacing them with pro-Ukrainian population coming from Lviv and areas around it. This can't be done yet and it's implementation requires military victory in Donbass.

    ISIS aren't our guys really... But it does not mean we can't use them to our own advantage - just bomb them hard enough to prevent serious expansion but not hard enough to destroy them. THis gives us a good card against Iran and is also FUN - isn't it?

    Lemme see dis buddy.

    ISIS are yours man don't be shy. It's really a good damn thing to use the Strategy of Terror of Italian fame in the Near and Middle East. But I understand for any dildohead from WDC brown people are all alike, 'M I 'RITE? Kif kif zarma.


    Ukraine:

    Short term befalls into ethnic cleansing...
    Long term befalls on Genocide.

    Or did I have that mixed? It's the other way around, no? Anyway, that 'd be your Strike 3. I guess you might be out soon. See you some day Georgetown's Rose.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:29 pm

    American Eagle wrote:It was a joke! But I admire our friendly Ukrainian nation for their determination in repelling foreign aggression in ODessa.

    Your friendly Ukrainian ''nation'' is approaching expiration date at warp speed. lol1

    Given the economic, social and demographic trends of that septic tank we will have enough material for video games to last us for decades.... Not that Ukraine will last beyond a decade (single). Cool

    Keep posting man, I am couple of dozens posts away from making colonel and you are my ticket to ''promotion'' thumbsup

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:37 pm

    American Eagle wrote:The Russian problem in Southwestern Ukraine should be solved using the principle of minimum effort - do only as much - but no less - as you need to achieve the goal. This means non-voluntary relocation.

    Do you even know who runs the entire ISIS show? Baghdadi is a figurehead It's old ex-Saddam guys who run the entire thing. Religion is just a cover-up.

    Principle of minimum effort is already being used by Russians to solve the Ukrainian ''nation'' problem, as in, cut them open and let the idiots bleed themselves dead... lol1
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:47 pm

    American Eagle wrote:The Russian problem in Southwestern Ukraine should be solved using the principle of minimum effort - do only as much - but no less - as you need to achieve the goal. This means non-voluntary relocation.

    Do you even know who runs the entire ISIS show? Baghdadi is a figurehead It's old ex-Saddam guys who run the entire thing. Religion is just a cover-up.

    Yeah, and everything closes the circle. So Al Douri, makes buddy buddy with people who wanted him dead and buried (MusBro), then accepts money from the guys (Saudis) that hung him and the other mustache guy (literally) to dry back in the 90's and the 00's. So finally the tautological gap is done for. Invading Iraq is justified after you've invaded them twice, and toppled their political system once. Did i addressed the Kurdish problem, you know the guys who get to fight the durka durka rasulil allah guys while being bombed by Turkey and the US through NATO approval.

    Nope my friend, I follow the cash, if the cash comes from your Allies (or weapons from NATO members), you own your pet. BTW Shahada morons aren't only ISIS, they're all Shahada bearing cunts. That's the greatness of this, like in Afshitistain you had to pull the Izb U Jihad card, like in Afshitistain you had to bundle up the scrape of the region's kettle and then some. It's all yaaars maiiite. It's like 9/11 never happened. Well gotta be some wording when the next "defining moment in US history comes to knock" otherwise I'll be "disappoint".

    Oh as for the "Russian Problem" in Southwestern Ukraine, you should take a page from your own manual, remember Kosovo. Ukraine gonna get Serbed. Never open a pandora box baby.


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    Post  Werewolf on Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:58 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Just had to post this and how indoctrinated and through and through inbred the west and majority of westerners are by being educated since childhood to hate russians which some do not make even a secret out off it and just say what they truelly think.

    And they are more than happy to see russians die but poor poor bacon and precious democratic west.

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    I think that was sarcastic...unless I haven't understood the background of this.

    It was not, that guy on that nuthead forum constantly cheers of dead russians or airshow crashes.

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