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    Russia's share in the Global Arms Market

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    Post  Austin Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:09 pm

    Quite good they need to raise that to $100 billion in next 5-7 years
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    Post  Viktor Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:33 pm

    Going up again  thumbsup 

    Russian weapons export grows to almost $50 bln - President Putin
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    Post  Austin Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 am

    Viktor wrote:Going up again  thumbsup 

    Russian weapons export grows to almost $50 bln - President Putin

    They need to double that to $100 billion by 2020 , That should be the goal for next 6 years.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:23 pm

    S-400 and Iskander soon to be cleared for export - perhaps 50 bin $ in orders could grow to 60 bin $ Very Happy 

    Russia’s Iskander-E Missile System Ready for Deliveries to Other Countries
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:22 pm

    Is Russian industry ramping up sufficiently to meet the new demand or is the backlog getting longer and longer?
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:23 am

    Viktor wrote:S-400 and Iskander soon to be cleared for export - perhaps 50 bin $ in orders could grow to 60 bin $ Very Happy 

    Russia’s Iskander-E Missile System Ready for Deliveries to Other Countries
    The West will just trick Russia into some U.N missile sanctions like they did with Iran, to anyone who wants the S-300 system, and the same will happen to those who want the new S-400.

    And the Iskander is practical useless as long as the IMF treaty stands, so honestly i am not gonna hold my breath.  Neutral 
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    Post  TheArmenian Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:38 am

    sheytanelkebir wrote:Is Russian industry ramping up sufficiently to meet the new demand or is the backlog getting longer and longer?

    Short answer is yes.
    For example, Almaz-Antey's recently announced that its production volume increased in 2013. It will increase further as the new factories come on line.
    http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/913037.html

    Of course, it is a slow and painful process that takes time but it is getting better and better every year. Those of us who are following Russian military production do clearly see a positive trend.

    Also note that some arms plants are not being used at full capacity (e.g. Izhmash that makes AK and other small arms). Even successful factories like KAMAZ can take more orders as they still have unutilized excess capacity. Just ask the Iraqi MoD to give more orders  Laughing 

    Also note that the Ukraine situation will negatively affect some production (like helicopters) temporarily. But there is nothing that can't be resolved.

    I would like to see Russian Arms orders (domestic and export) to increase so much that the factories can not cope with the demand. That would be a nice problem to have.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:17 am

    It is a serious issue and a real tight rope for the Russians.

    Expand capacity too much and you over spend on infrastructure and have idle production lines. Don't expand too much and find you can't meet production needs.

    Now that there is domestic demand things will be much better because with export only production numbers are generally smaller and so margins are tighter... you don't want to make a mistake and find out you are making products at a loss, or miss deadlines and get fined which of course comes out of your profit.

    People wonder why Izhmash was in financial trouble... very simply it is enormous and has the capacity to arm several nations at once.

    And the Iskander is practical useless as long as the IMF treaty stands, so honestly i am not gonna hold my breath.

    Why do you say that?

    The 280km range Iskander is a modern equivalent of Scud except it is accurate enough to actually hit point targets and has two missiles on each truck instead of one.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:44 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    And the Iskander is practical useless as long as the IMF treaty stands, so honestly i am not gonna hold my breath.

    Why do you say that?

    The 280km range Iskander is a modern equivalent of Scud except it is accurate enough to actually hit point targets and has two missiles on each truck instead of one.
    Not to mention it's also smaller then the Scud platform, its all well and good Garry.........oops looks like i made a mistake, just looked it up and apparently its max range is between 500-600km, i had thought that it was somewhere between 5000-6000km, my bad, that being said the INF treaty needs to burn and Russia needs to export missiles that can actually hit U.S ships from 2000+km range.


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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:01 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    sheytanelkebir wrote:Is Russian industry ramping up sufficiently to meet the new demand or is the backlog getting longer and longer?

    Short answer is yes.
    For example, Almaz-Antey's recently announced that its production volume increased in 2013. It will increase further as the new factories come on line.
    http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/913037.html

    Of course, it is a slow and painful process that takes time but it is getting better and better every year. Those of us who are following Russian military production do clearly see a positive trend.

    Also note that some arms plants are not being used at full capacity (e.g. Izhmash that makes AK and other small arms). Even successful factories like KAMAZ can take more orders as they still have unutilized excess capacity. Just ask the Iraqi MoD to give more orders  Laughing 

    Also note that the Ukraine situation will negatively affect some production (like helicopters) temporarily. But there is nothing that can't be resolved.

    I would like to see Russian Arms orders (domestic and export) to increase so much that the factories can not cope with the demand. That would be a nice problem to have.

    Good thing is that Almaz-Antey, Uralvagonzavod, Kret, Schwabe and many others are rapidly increasing its civil production too.
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:07 pm

    Russian Arms Sales Top $15.5 Billion for 2014 Despite Sanctions' Impact

    Director of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation stated that Russian weapons exports for 2014 stood at more than $15.5 billion and current orders for weapons deliveries stand at $48 billion.

    LANGKAWI (Malaysia) (Sputnik) – Russian weapons exports for 2014 stood at more than $15.5 billion and current orders for weapons deliveries stand at $48 billion, the director of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation said Thursday.

    “We completed the 2014 plan with $15.5 billion, even exceeding [the plan] a bit,” Alexander Fomin said, adding that portfolio orders for weapons to foreign military clients currently stands at $48 billion.

    According to Fomin, western sanctions “obviously had a negative impact on the FSMTC’s work,” but last year’s plan was fulfilled and that “this year’s results would be positive.”

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150319/1019705128.html#ixzz3UvWUwJDz
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    Post  George1 Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:34 pm

    Russian arms sales

    Another Oxford Analytica piece, this one from mid-December.

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    Russia is the second-largest arms exporter in the world, behind only the United States. In the period 2009-13, Russia accounted for 27% of total world arms sales.

    However, Russian arms sales have been highly dependent on a few major customers, with India, China and Algeria accounting for over 60% of Russian purchases in the last five years. Another 15% of Russian exports went to other Asian countries, primarily Vietnam, Indonesia and former Soviet Union states.

    Russia is particularly hopeful of expanding its sales to Indonesia and Vietnam — which are both looking towards naval expansion, which have to date included systems ranging from aircraft to combat ships to infantry fighting vehicles.

    The main targets of Russian weapon sales are gradually shifting. Sales to China, have been in decline for years as Beijing has pursued a programme of shifting to domestic manufacturing of advanced weaponry.

    India

    India has replaced China as Moscow’s main foreign customer. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) reported that between 2009 and 2013 Russia supplied 75% of weapons imported by India. However, serious delays such as the transfer of the modernised aircraft carrier — the Vikramaditya — have dented Russia’s reputation as a reliable partner.

    Therefore, Delhi seeks a diversity of supply from sources including the United States and several European countries. This is evidenced in India’s preference for French Rafale fighters in the multi-billion dollar Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) fighter tender.

    India’s MMRCA tender is for procuring 126 fighters to replace squadrons of MiG-21s. The deal will see France supply a number of aircraft fully built and ready to fly — while the remainder will be built under a technology transfer agreement by Hindustan Aeronautics.

    Moreover, India is looking to be 75% self-reliant in defence production by 2020-25. It will also seek to become a weapons exporter and probably promote partnerships with Russia. The BrahMos Aerospace programme has been a particular noteworthy area of close cooperation between Russia and India with the creation of the BrahMos Supersonic Cruise Missile.

    Pakistan

    Pakistan may also provide a new opening for Russia. On November 20, Russia and Pakistan signed a military cooperation agreement, reportedly involving a deal for Moscow to supply 20 Mi-35 transport helicopters to Islamabad.
    Middle East

    Besides Asia, Russia has been actively looking for new customers for its arms in the Middle East. Russia has recently concluded significant contracts with Iraq for helicopters and air defence systems worth 4 billion dollars and Egypt for air defence systems worth 2 billion dollars.

    Latin America

    In Latin America, Russia remains hopeful of selling fighter aircraft to Brazil and Argentina. Russia has sold air defence systems to Brazil and hopes to develop a defence industrial partnership that might parallel its military cooperation with India.

    Competitive sectors

    The sectors in which Russian weapons systems are considered equal or superior to Western equivalents include air defence, fighter aircraft, helicopters, submarines and cruise missiles. These are the sectors in which Russia’s defence industry can compete with the most advanced Western suppliers, with weapons such as the S-300 air defence system, the Su-35 fighter jets and the Kilo class submarine being noteworthy. Russia can also be competitive in sectors such as tanks, armored vehicles, small arms, artillery, and small combat ships. These are sectors where Russian weapons are not as good as Western equivalents, but are generally significantly cheaper. This price difference has allowed them to be competitive in many countries despite lower quality and/or inferior characteristics.
    Ukraine delays

    However, Russian arms sales have largely depended on selling late Soviet designs, with new designs proving more difficult to manufacture. The freeze on military cooperation with Ukraine may lead to further delays as many Russian weapon systems depend on Ukrainian components and the transition to Russian domestic substitutes is expected to take two to three years.
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    Post  max steel Wed May 06, 2015 11:26 am

    "Rosoboronexport" will present products in Turkey, more than 400 companies in Russia


    Including 20 samples will be exhibited products of Russian "defense", including the T-90S tank and combat helicopter Mi-28NE .


    The main exporter of Russian arms company "Rosoboronexport" will present at the International Defence Industry Exhibition IDEF-2015 production of more than 400 Russian defense enterprises. In an interview with Tass said the head of the delegation of "Rosoboronexport" Anatoly Aksenov.
    "Rosoboronexport" is the sole Russian state intermediary in export and import the entire spectrum of end products, technologies and services of military and dual-purpose. This status gives the unique opportunity to present the exhibition in Istanbul, the production of all the military-industrial complex (MIC) of the country, has more than 400 large companies and holdings, said Aksenov.

    What will Russia's defense industry in Turkey

    In particular, they will be exhibited 20 samples of products of Russian "defense", including the T-90S tank and combat helicopter Mi-28NE.
    "In the Middle East and North Africa account for a significant proportion of all deliveries of" Rosoboronexport ". In this connection, in preparation for the International Defence Industry Exhibition IDEF-2015, we performed extensive work on the analysis of the needs of major regional consumers IWT, including the latest local conflict ", - said Aksenov. He noted that as a result was chosen about twenty samples of products of the Russian defense industry, which, according to the company, cause the greatest interest of potential customers from the region.
    Among the main air samples of military products identified in Rosoboronexport training aircraft Yak-130 aircraft of the Su-30MKI aircraft Be-200 light multi-purpose helicopter Ka-226 heavy transport helicopter Mi-26 combat helicopter Mi-28NE, military transport helicopter Mi-171SH and combat reconnaissance and attack helicopter Ka-52.

    The land component is represented by the upgraded T-90S tanks, armored personnel carriers BTR-80A combat vehicle BMP-3F infantry and tank support combat vehicle. From naval equipment Rosoboronexport noted in diesel-electric submarines of Project 677E "Amur-1650", the frigate "Gepard-3.9" patrol boat project 14310 "Mirage", as well as high-speed patrol boat project 12150 "Mongoose".


    In addition, the exhibition will feature anti-aircraft missile system "Antey-2500" anti-aircraft missile system "Tor m2K" anti-aircraft missile systems "Buk-M2E" and heavy flamethrower system "TOS-1A".

    Objectives of the Russian arms exporter

    "Rosoboronexport" looks forward to enhanced cooperation with Turkey, and in general with the countries of the region. During the IDEF-2015 is planned to hold a series of talks and presentations of new types of products of the Russian defense industry, as well as modernization programs previously delivered military equipment, "- said Aksenov.

    Russian stand has traditionally attracted the interest of a large number of foreign delegations, he added. "So, in 2013 the stand" Rosoboronexport "visited 52 delegations. I am confident that in 2015 the negotiations in Istanbul will be very intense," - a spokesman said.
    International Exhibition IDEF-2015 will be held from 5 to 8 May in Istanbul. According to the organizers, will be attended by more than 700 companies from 46 countries. Most large-scale exhibition will be presented by Turkey (265 companies) and the USA (101 companies). Representative will be pavilions of Germany (50 companies), the UK (45 companies) and France (34 companies). From Russia in the exhibition will be attended by state corporation "Rostec" and its member of "Rosoboronexport".

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/1948166
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    Post  George1 Mon May 25, 2015 10:12 pm

    Russian arms exports in 2014 reached 15.5 billion dollars
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    Post  Kyo Mon May 25, 2015 11:45 pm

    Putin: Russia faces growing aggression from global arms producers

    "Of course, we have to work in a complex situation,” Putin said during a meeting of the Commission for Military and Technical Cooperation on Monday, according to Tass. “We’re confronted ever more frequently with the attempt of direct counteraction and sometimes these attempts go beyond the framework of competitive struggle and are of an openly aggressive nature. And perhaps political instruments are also used as camouflaged means of competitive struggle.”
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    Post  George1 Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:56 pm

    The order book of "Rosoboronexport" is almost $40 billion
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:05 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote: We need to be more aggressive on the export front, France has overtaken us as the world's second largest arms exporter while our deals get sidetracked.  

    What a Face  What a Face  What a Face

    http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/transfers/measuring/recent-trends-in-arms-transfers

    SIPRI claims Russian arms export is 5,5 times bigger then French.

    But yes if you meant competing with jean paul gaultier perfumes, France is in a way better position  lol!
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    Post  Admin Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:08 am

    France has signed €15 billion worth of contracts in the last three months, more than we sold as a whole last year.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:57 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:France has signed €15 billion worth of contracts in the last three months, more than we sold as a whole last year.
    well...
    French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said on Tuesday that talks with New Delhi over the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets were progressing well and would be finalised within “two to three months”.
    http://idrw.org/india-to-seal-deal-on-rafale-jets-in-2-to-3-months-says-french-minister/
    "2-3 months" - theyve been there before havent they?
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    Post  max steel Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:08 am

    US is at number 1 29%  with Russia at number 2 27 % followed by China now at number 3 9-10% then Germany at 4 8-9% . France is nowhere in weapons market share  .
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:53 am

    Russia wont benefit from trying to screw France just because their leader is a puppet.

    It is not the fault of the french workers that their government is full of cowards.

    Cut your losses... get the best deal you can and just get over it... but don't forget the lesson... domestic production only.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:10 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:France has signed €15 billion worth of contracts in the last three months, more than we sold as a whole last year.

    I am not sure what exact deals did you mean - prospects or inked ones? In every case looks like Russia sold arms last year for over $15,5 bln and Russian arms export portfolio topped $50 bln so cheer up ain´t that bad. Russia has pretty good export policy and I do not think it shall be changed.

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150525/1022534291.html
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    Post  Admin Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:12 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    Vladimir79 wrote:France has signed €15 billion worth of contracts in the last three months, more than we sold as a whole last year.
    well...
    French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said on Tuesday that talks with New Delhi over the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets were progressing well and would be finalised within “two to three months”.
    http://idrw.org/india-to-seal-deal-on-rafale-jets-in-2-to-3-months-says-french-minister/
    "2-3 months" - theyve been there before havent they?

    That number didn't even include India. Egypt, Qatar, SKA, Lebanon, Poland have all booked multi-billion tenders with France this year. India and Kuwait are in the finalization of billion+ tenders with them right now and they expect a huge Rafale sale to UAE or Malaysia. What multi-billion contract did we sign this year, i can't remember.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:20 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:

    That number didn't even include India.  Egypt, Qatar, SKA, Lebanon, Poland have all booked multi-billion tenders with France this year.  India and Kuwait are in the finalization of billion+ tenders with them right now and they expect a huge Rafale sale to UAE or Malaysia.  What multi-billion contract did we sign this year, i can't remember.  
    whoops, my bad Embarassed.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:23 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    collegeboy16 wrote:
    Vladimir79 wrote:France has signed €15 billion worth of contracts in the last three months, more than we sold as a whole last year.
    well...
    French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said on Tuesday that talks with New Delhi over the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets were progressing well and would be finalised within “two to three months”.
    http://idrw.org/india-to-seal-deal-on-rafale-jets-in-2-to-3-months-says-french-minister/
    "2-3 months" - theyve been there before havent they?

    That number didn't even include India.  Egypt, Qatar, SKA, Lebanon, Poland have all booked multi-billion tenders with France this year.  India and Kuwait are in the finalization of billion+ tenders with them right now and they expect a huge Rafale sale to UAE or Malaysia.  What multi-billion contract did we sign this year, i can't remember.  

    Of course I might  be not correct but if I sign a contract, today, to sell 24 Su-35 with delivery  in 2020 then

    1) I add now $2 bln to a portfolio but exported nothing yet.
    2) I  get transfer for delivery in 2020 so I add $2 bln to exported results and deduct from portfolio.

    France did not export anything yet but added to portfolio $15bln.  I mean is supposed to add cause neither Indian nor Polish deals are not inked yet.

    Russia portfolio is over $50bln as Sputnik claims and last year export (ie shipments of goodies and transfers received) was on level of $15,5bln.

    Contracts close to sign by Russia? lately Egypt
    46 MiG-35 ~$2bln
    pending $1bln + S-300

    Still pending deal with iraq for $4,2bln-  

    I did not dig  anything though about deals with India wrt helos and Ils of China. Remember there is still June.


    Summing up - French are waning around about export but they sing just contrast to portfolio... comparing 15 France to 50+ Russian still looks rather dwarfey. But France 24 is lying on purpose -you know Russians are drunkards and loosers because IIWW was won by French imperial army Smile


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