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    Post  George1 Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:48 pm

    Boeing Inks Contract to Provide Britain With 38 Apache Attack Choppers
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    Post  George1 Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:56 pm

    UK to acquire US light armored vehicles JLTV

    On July 10, 2017, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) sent a notice to the US Congress about the forthcoming sale of 2747 JLTV (Joint Light Tactical Vehicles) to the United Kingdom through foreign military sales (FMS) With the wheel formula 4x4 produced by Oshkosh Defense. The sale is authorized by the US Department of State. The estimated cost of supply is $ 1,035 billion.

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    Post  George1 Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:36 am

    The first upgraded Warrior 2 infantry fighting vehicles were transferred to the British Army

    According to "Jane's Defense Weekly" magazine in the article Samuel Cranny-Evans "IAV 2018: Warrior 2 delivered for armor trials", at the International Armored Vehicles (IAV) conference in London from January 22 to 25, 2018, the representative of Lockheed Martin Corporation reported , that the British branch of the corporation (Lockheed Martin UK) handed over to the British army the first eight Warrior infantry vehicles upgraded to the level of Warrior 2. All eight cars entered the testing program for the armored British Army Armored Trials and Development Unit (ATDU) in Dorset .

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    Within the framework of the Warrior Capability Sustainment Program (WCSP), it is planned to modernize 380 units from 789 Warrior infantry vehicles received by the British army from 1987 to 1995. Of this number, 245 line and command vehicles are planned to be upgraded to the Warrior 2 level under the Warrior Fightability Lethality Improvement Program (WFLIP) subroutine, providing for the installation of a new tower with a 40mm CTA International CT40 automatic cannon with telescopic ammunition and a 24-hour fire control system.

    The contract for R & D under the WFLIP modernization program worth £ 200 million was awarded in March 2011 on a competitive basis by Lockheed Martin UK, the developer of the tower (which is being implemented by capitalizing the original Warrior BMP tower) and the fire control system and in general the system integrator. The cost of upgrading 245 machines under the WFLIP program was previously set at 642 million pounds, but could actually exceed 1 billion pounds. Works on serial upgrading should be carried out on the group belonging to Babcock belonging to the former military armored vehicle repair plant in Donnington. Serially upgraded BMP Warrior 2 should begin to flow into the combat units of the British Army in 2020, and are expected to be in operation until 2040.

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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:27 pm

    Great Britain again joins the program of the Boxer armored personnel carrier

    The British Department of Defense on March 31, 2018 reported that it had decided to rejoin the GTK Boxer wheeled German-Dutch wheeled vehicle program, from which the UK withdrew in 2003. A statement from the UK Department of Defense states that "The United Kingdom will again join the Boxer program and consider options for equipping the army with 8x8 armored personnel carriers for upgrading its fleet of armored vehicles and meeting Army requirements under the Mechanized Infantry Vehicle (MIV) program."

    This decision actually predetermines the purchase of BTR Boxer for the British Army under the MIV program instead of holding a wide international competition for this program.

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    Post  George1 Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:40 am

    Problems of recruiting infantry units of the British Army

    According to Tim Ripley’s Analysis of the British Army’s infantry units suffering from 12% shortfall in personnel, Jane’s Defense Weekly reports that the British army faces a serious shortage of non-commissioned and noncommissioned officers in infantry units. According to the Ministry of Defense of the United Kingdom, promulgated on September 20, 2018 in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act (FOI), a shortage of personnel in the regular infantry battalions of the British army (which now numbers 29, excluding two Gurkha battalions) by 1 July 2018 was 12.4% in relation to the regular number (in the whole of the British Army a shortage is 6.8%).

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    Post  George1 Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:01 pm

    UK buys Boxer armored personnel carriers


    The Ministry of Defense of Great Britain on November 5, 2019 announced the signing of a contract worth £ 2.8 billion for the purchase of "more than 500" GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers with an 8x8 wheel arrangement of various modifications for the British army. The contract is signed with the European procurement Organization for Cooperation in the field of armaments (Organization for Joint Armament Cooperation - OCCAR). Deliveries should begin in 2023.




     The production of GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers is carried out by the German consortium Artec (now it combines Rheinmetall Defense and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann / KMW, now KNDS), and their implementation and maintenance are carried out as part of a joint program through OCCAR.

     Recall that the United Kingdom was originally a member of the tripartite (with the participation of Germany and the Netherlands) program for the creation of an armored personnel carrier GTK Boxer (MRAV), however, in 2003, the British Ministry of Defense withdrew from the project, explaining that the characteristics of the machine did not meet British requirements, including air transport. In March 2018, the British Department of Defense returned to the Boxer program as part of the OCCAR.

     Thus, then the United Kingdom made the final choice in favor of the purchase of Boxer APCs and finally abandoned the idea of ​​holding an international tender for the Mechanized Infantry Vehicle (MIV) procurement program for the British army of wheeled armored personnel carriers.

     After the UK left the Boxer program in 2003, the British Department of Defense launched an ambitious program for creating a new generation of Future Rapid Effect System (FRES) armored vehicles, the Utility Variant (FRES UV) wheeled armored personnel carrier subroutine was initially considered the main program. BTR Boxer was one of three candidates for the FRES UV routine, but General Dynamics Piranha V was announced victory in May 2008. But at the end of 2008, the British Department of Defense announced the suspension of the FRES UV routine and “restructuring” the entire FRES project in favor of Priority of the family of tracked platforms in the FRES Specialist Vehicle subroutine (as a result of which the General Dynamics Ajax family of tracked vehicles was created).

     Since 2013, the need for wheeled armored platforms was again put forward by the British army, now as a MIV program. The world's leading manufacturers of armored vehicles have already prepared for this expected new megatender - the consortium Artec (manufacturer of BTR Boxer), Nexter Systems (VBCI), General Dynamics (with the next version of Piranha), Lockheed Martin in partnership with Finnish Patria (AMV) have already announced their participation. BAE Systems (with a new project - possibly reincarnation of SEP projects), Iveco and Singaporean STK.

     In total, according to the MIV program, it is planned to purchase up to 900 armored vehicles with an 8x8 wheel formula for the British Army.

     According to a statement from the UK Department of Defense regarding the conclusion of a contract for the purchase of Boxer APCs, the first phase will be the purchase of four types of vehicles - a linear APC, a command post vehicle, a medical vehicle and an armament carrier. In the first stage, four motorized infantry battalions — two in two new British “strike” brigades (Strike Brigades) formed by the British Army — will be equipped with BTR Boxer (MIV) (in addition, each regiment will include two regiments for new tracked armored vehicles Ajax family).

     The detailed parameters of the signed Boxer purchase contract have not yet been announced, but the British Defense Department said earlier that the contract should provide for the ability to build and export vehicles from the UK, including the complete assembly of Boxer in the UK with at least 60% participation in the production of British industry,

     The Artec Consortium, which manufactures Boxer APCs, has already committed itself to the British industry by signing partnership agreements with BAE Systems, Pearson Engineering and Thales UK, pending the conclusion of the contract. British companies are expected to compete for the production and supply of many BTR subsystems, as well as for the organization of a complete production and assembly line in the UK. Estimates suggest that Artec's planned UK investment could provide or create at least 1,000 jobs. The Rolls-Royce group is already involved in the production of engines for Boxer, and British companies Parker-Hannifin, William Cook Engineering and others are also expected to be connected to the production of components.

     Under the proposed contract, the UK is also expected to receive significant investments from the Rheinmetall group, which has announced its intention to establish a center in the UK.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:14 pm

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    A good shot of a production spec Ajax Recce veh with 40mm CTAS turret. @gw14b11a32a

    Great looking wagon. Sensors galore!!!

    Looks like a good replacement for the old CVR(T), and packing a 40mm will give someone a nice headache on a two range once they sort the feed issues.



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:52 pm

    As they say "logistics win wars".

    How the hell do you move this amount of stuff on a modern battlefield? Hundreds of trucks, it ain't gonna happen other than in someone's plan.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun May 10, 2020 1:03 pm

    What's the views on such a system

    British Army tests smart rifle that makes every bullet hit target and 'never misses
    It has been developed by Israeli firm Sharp Shooter and costs just £800.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-army-trial-smart-rifle-22001969.amp

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 10, 2020 3:28 pm

    Yeah, that is just the same technology as was shown a short while ago on Russian rifles... effectively it is a thermal scope with a laser rangefinder and ballistic computer and image processing computer built in.

    It detects moving targets and allows you to range them and based on the bullet trajectory and rifle barrel and ammo type it calculates an aim point to hit the target... put the aim point on the target and pull the trigger... For rifles with electronic triggers you pull the trigger and move the aim point on to the target... when the barrel is pointing at the optimal point to assure a hit the gun will automatically fire.

    The MiG-29 had such a system in the 1980s.

    Of course it identifies the target as an object but without any friend or foe ID system there is no way to tell a target terrorist from a civilian... this is an Israeli system... have you noticed a dramatic drop in the number of Palestinians being shot recently?

    Basically it automates the process of shooting a target so you select the target and shoot... new civilian scopes for hunting can do the same these days too.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:41 am



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    We have now published the transcript from our session with General Sir Nick Carter, the Chief of the Defence Staff

    You can access it here: https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/652/pdf/

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    Have you guys noticed that Chief Defence Staff literally said there is a gun-fired missile requirement for Challenger 2 now...? Big surprise there, as far as i'm concerned.

    Real pearl follows: "It needed ability to put a missile down that barrel to overmatch Armata."


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    #Rheinmetall’s proposal for the UK #Challenger2 Life Extension Project shows a brand new turret with the latest 120 mm L55A1 smooth bore gun. It fires the DM63A1 round as well as the new DM11 programmable HE. #military #ARMY #britisharmy


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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:14 am

    Hahaha... yeah... the only thing the Challenger II needs to be better than Armata will be a gun tube launched missile... that will do it... Razz

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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:56 pm

    Great Britain received the first two AN-64E helicopters

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    Post  George1 Sat May 08, 2021 11:48 pm

    Contract for the modernization of British Challenger 2 tanks into the Challenger 3 variant


    May 8th, 21:00
    On May 7, 2021, the British Ministry of Defense announced the issuance of a contract worth about £ 800 million to the British joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL, formed by the German group Rgeinmetall and BAE Systems Corporation) for the modernization of 148 Challenger 2 main tanks of the British army into a new version of Challenger 3. . Image upgraded Challenger main tank 3 for the British army (s) Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL)

    Recall that in September 2019, the British joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL), created by the German group Rheinmetall and the BAE Systems corporation, presenteddemonstrator of a variant of the radical modernization of the British main tank Challenger 2 under the long-running Challenger 2 Life Extension Project (LEP) program of the British army. RBSL's proposal was to install a new turret on the tank with a 120 mm Rheinmetall Rh 120 L55A1 smoothbore tank gun (with a barrel length of 55 calibers), instead of the old turret with an outdated British L30A1 rifled gun. Then a full-fledged prototype of the modernized Challenger 2 tank was presented with a new turret with a 120-mm Rheinmetall Rh 120 L55A1 cannon. As a result, this modernization option is now chosen by the UK Department of Defense for implementation under the designation Challenger

    3.FThe active developer of the new tower is Rheinmetall. The tower will be equipped with British-designed "new generation modular armor", a 120mm Rheinmetall Rh 120 L55A1 smoothbore tank gun and a remotely controlled machine gun module . In general, the Challenger 3 modernization project is very radical, so that from the old Challenger 2 tanks, in fact, only the hull remains, which is also modernized with increased frontal armor. Upgraded tank Challenger 3 will also be equipped with completely new fire control systems (duplicated), surveillance and communication, and digital electric drives. The ammunition load of the new 120-mm smoothbore gun will include the DM11 programmable high-explosive fragmentation round. Standard Perkins 1200 hp diesel engine. it is supposed to be replaced by a German MTU of 1500 hp. The suspension of the tank will be made with a new "hydropneumatic third generation". The tank should be equipped with an active protection complex, but KAZ will be purchased and installed under a separate contract. The combat weight of the Challenger 3 will be 66 tons.

    The retrofits will take place at RBSL's UK facilities, headquartered in Telford. Supply of modernized tanksChallenger 3 in the British army will be carried out from 2027 to 2030.

    Modernization projects for Challenger 2 tanks have been initiated in Great Britain several times since the official entry of these vehicles into service in 1998, revolving primarily around replacing the outdated 120-mm L30A1 rifled gun of these tanks with a smooth-bore one. However, for financial reasons, none of the proposals have so far reached implementation. Replacing a rifled gun with separate loading with a smooth-bore German Rheinmetall Rh 120 L44 / L55 with unitary shots required the creation of a new turret, which made the upgrade extremely expensive.

    Only in December 2015 was launchedthe Challenger 2 Life Extension Project (LEP) limited modernization program, which was originally planned to be entirely focused on the modernization of "tower subsystems" (i.e. fire control, communications, information systems, etc.) without replacing weapons, and the costs of which were estimated from 624 to 700 million pounds. In December 2016, two proposals for limited modernization projects were selected in a tender for the LEP program - BAE Systems (in a consortium with General Dynamics UK) and German Rheinmetall - and the final choice of the project was supposed to be made in 2019. However, in July 2019, the UK Department of Defense decided to postpone the decision on the LEP program by at least two years (that is, until 2021) and conduct a complete reassessment of the program.

    In fact, this reassessment boiled down to a desire to abandon the limited options for modernization and implement a more radical option with the replacement of the turret and gun. Apparently knowing this well, BAE Systems and Rheinmetall teamed up in 2019 under the RBSL with the aim of offering the British military department a radical version of the modernization of the tank with a new turret and gun, achieving success in the end.

    The decision in favor of a radical and more expensive option for modernizing the Challenger 2 tank was ultimately chosen by the British Ministry of Defense by reducing the total number of modernized vehicles. In an official review published by the UK Department of Defense in March 2021in the field of defense and security, "Defense Command Paper" announced the decision to withdraw from service 77 of the 225 Challenger 2 tanks currently available in the British army, and to upgrade only the remaining 148 vehicles to the Challenger 3 version.

    Recall that initially from 1994 to 2002, the British army was supplied with 386 Challenger 2 tanks and 22 training tanks. All of them were produced at tank factories in Elzwik and Leeds, which at that time belonged to Alvis (in 2004, together with the enterprises, they came under the control of BAE Systems). Another 38 tanks were manufactured for Oman in 1998-2001. According to the Strategic Defense and Security Review (SDSR-2010) published in 2010, the number of Challenger 2 battle tanks in the British army was reduced to 225, while it was planned to keep them in service until 2035.

    Now it is stated that the upgraded Challenger 3 tank will remain in service with the British army until at least 2040.

    Speaking on May 7, 2021 at the presentation of the contract for the modernization of 148 British Army Challenger 2 main tanks into a new Challenger 3 variant at the RBSL facility in Telford, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said about Challenger 3: “This will be the deadliest tank in NATO, it can interact with all other elements of not only the army, but all other branches of the armed forces and increase the effectiveness of Great Britain in hostilities. "

    The minister added that this "world-class tank" is better than Russian tanks because of the new gun. Pointing to the new Challenger 3 120mm smoothbore cannon, the British Secretary of Defense said, “This is why it is better than what the Russians have now. Because of this cannon, "and went on to say," the smoothbore cannon and its lethality plus its [Challenger 3] ability to increase strength by being able to negotiate with everyone on the battlefield. "

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 09, 2021 5:32 am


    The minister added that this "world-class tank" is better than Russian tanks because of the new gun. Pointing to the new Challenger 3 120mm smoothbore cannon, the British Secretary of Defense said, “This is why it is better than what the Russians have now. Because of this cannon, "and went on to say," the smoothbore cannon and its lethality plus its [Challenger 3] ability to increase strength by being able to negotiate with everyone on the battlefield. "

    So getting an old gun was the solution to its problems... interesting... so these 150 odd tanks will be superior to Russian tanks... I bet Putin is scared.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 09, 2021 12:47 pm

    The same gun as the Leo2. Which ammunition can´t defeat russian ERA armour as we know from an internal document of the german parliament (was posted somewhere here).

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    Post  Isos Sun May 09, 2021 3:20 pm

    Aren't they going to remove tanks from service ?

    They spent all the time saying it was the best tank and now they improve it with german technology... it tells a lot abput them.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 09, 2021 10:02 pm

    A sad day for the British armaments industry, an old German gun in a British tank for goodness sake. Where are all those proud boasts of our superior rifled barrels now?

    Another indicator of the UK's gradual descent from the armoured vehicle top table. If you don't have a domestic customer you really don't stand a chance.

    To be honest I myself really don't see a UK need for even 148 heavy tanks. Fight the Russians? China? You must be joking.

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    Post  lancelot Sun May 09, 2021 10:22 pm

    It all sounds kind of bonkers. The French and Germans are considering changing caliber on their next tank.
    Doesn't the UK have lots of ammo stocks that will be unusable with this change?
    Seems like a colossal waste of money when the next tank might use yet another ammo type.

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    Post  Isos Mon May 10, 2021 12:00 am

    lancelot wrote:It all sounds kind of bonkers. The French and Germans are considering changing caliber on their next tank.
    Doesn't the UK have lots of ammo stocks that will be unusable with this change?
    Seems like a colossal waste of money when the next tank might use yet another ammo type.

    They can always use the old ammo in the new gun somehow because it will be bigger gun than the actual 120mm.

    But UK isn't interested by tanks anymore.
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    Post  GarryB Mon May 10, 2021 10:11 am

    It is the billions of pounds they want to spend on getting extra trident missiles I find amusing... they could have all the tanks they way and give teh NHS nurses a huge pay increase... 30% maybe, instead of those missiles which just sit there and do nothing.

    Another reason to call it MAD I guess...
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    Post  Finty Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:33 pm

    Artificial Intelligence used on British Army operation for the first time


    Artificial Intelligence has been used for the first time as part of Exercise Spring Storm in Estonia. The AI technology exploited vast amounts of data to help soldiers, providing vital information on the surrounding terrain and environment.

    The British Army has used Artificial Intelligence (AI) for the first time during Exercise Spring Storm, as part of Operation Cabrit in Estonia.

    Soldiers from the 20th Armoured Infantry Brigade used an AI engine which provides information on the surrounding environment and terrain.

    “This was a fantastic opportunity to use a new and innovative piece of technology in a deployed environment. The kit was shown to outperform our expectations."

    Through the development of significant automation and smart analytics, the engine is able to rapidly cut through masses of complex data. Providing efficient information regarding the environment and terrain, it enables the Army to plan its appropriate activity and outputs.

    The Army’s Director of Information, Major General John Cole said:

    “The deployment was a first of its kind for the Army. It built on close collaboration between the MOD and industry partners that developed AI specifically designed for the way the Army is trained to operate.

    “The lessons this has provided are considerable, not just in terms of our support to deployed forces, but more broadly in how we inform Defence’s digital transformation agenda and the best practices we must adopt to integrate and exploit leading-edge technologies.”

    This AI capability, which can be hosted in the cloud or operate in independent mode, saved significant time and effort, providing soldiers with instant planning support and enhancing command and control processes.

    20th Armoured Infantry Brigade and user of the AI, Major James Mcevoy said:

    “This was a fantastic opportunity to use a new and innovative piece of technology in a deployed environment. The kit was shown to outperform our expectations and has clear applications for improving our level of analysis and speed at which we conduct our planning. I’m greatly looking forward to further opportunities to work with this.

    “In future, the UK armed forces will increasingly use AI to predict adversaries’ behaviour, perform reconnaissance and relay real-time intelligence from the battlefield.”

    During the annual large-scale NATO exercise, soldiers from France, Denmark, Belgium, Estonia and the UK used the technology whilst carrying out live-fire drills.

    Operation Cabrit is the British Army’s deployment to Estonia where British troops are leading a multinational battlegroup as part of the enhanced Forward Presence.

    Artificial Intelligence has already been incorporated in a number of key military initiatives, including the Future Combat Air System, and is the focus of several innovative funding programmes through the Defence and Security Accelerator.

    Announced by the Prime Minister last November, Defence has received an increase in funding of over £24 billion across the next four years, focussing on the ability to adapt to meet future threats.

    Further outlined in the Defence Command Paper, the MOD intends to invest £6.6billion over the next four years in defence research and development, focusing on emerging technologies in artificial intelligence, AI-enabled autonomous systems, cyber, space and directed energy systems.


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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:03 am

    Hmmm... AI, Cloud based.... there is a head in the clouds joke there I am sure of it...
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    Post  Finty Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:32 pm

    More on the Ajax saga

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    Post  Finty Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:59 pm

    https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-considering-incorporating-afghan-troops-from-kabul-into-british-army-2021-8?amp



    Hundreds of the Afghan commandos who've arrived in the UK over the past few weeks have been trained by UK troops in Afghanistan.

    Ministers are considering the proposal to employ the soldiers. The arrangement would be similar to the Gurkhas — soldiers from Nepal who are recruited into the British army — the Telegraph reported.

    On August 29, Prime Minister Boris Johnson published a video message about the Afghanistan evacuation, in which he said the government would help Afghans arriving in the UK "contribute in any way possible to the life and economy of the country."


    Afghan troops are 'very good by international standards'
    The final UK troops left Afghanistan on August 28, along with the Afghan security personnel who worked with them evacuating refugees to Britain.

    Afghan troops played a "crucial role" in Operation Pitting, the British military's operation to evacuate 15,000 people from Kabul, and the largest British evacuation since World War II, the Metro reported.

    Gen. Sir Richard Barrons, a former head of Joint Forces Command, described the Afghan special forces as "very good by international standards," the Telegraph reported.

    Defense sources told the newspaper that the Afghan troops could be incorporated into British forces or kept as a separate unit.

    Four Afghan officer cadets who were due to join the Afghan National Army are already enrolled at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, with three more set to start next weekend, the newspaper reported.

    Tom Tugendhat, the chair of the foreign affairs committee, said: "We trained and fought alongside many Afghans who are now in the UK. They've proved their loyalty a thousand times.

    "If they want to serve, we should welcome them. I would love to see a regiment of Afghan scouts."

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