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    Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:11 am

    That would be good for both countries... both sides could experiment with new systems... new versions of Drozd and ARENA could be tested, and perhaps turret bustle autoloaders could be tested in a different environment.

    In urban combat the threat of an enemy targeting ammo in a rear turret bustle is very high but in open terrain the long range sensors and fire power of a tank offer the chance to minimise the risk to turret bustle mounted ammo, so something like the 31 round autoloader in the Black Eagle variation of the T-80 or the 31 round setup in the Burlak variant of the T-90 with the under floor 22 round autoloader suddenly become interesting.

    I personally think having especially propellent and long rod penetrators in the rear turret bustle would make the crew compartment safer as these items are either most likely to ignite due to combat damage or benefit from a longer storage area respectively, would make the tank more effective with 53 ready to fire rounds and the ability to dump the propellent in case of a penetrating hit will make it safer...
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    Post  iraqidabab Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:51 pm

    Iraq, Pakistan, Kuwait Show Interest in Russia’s Next-Gen Ratnik Military Gear

    Iraq, Pakistan and Kuwait are among the countries that have shown an interest in Russia’s next-generation Ratnik (Warrior) military equipment system, the CEO of TsNIITochMash, a major arms manufacturer, said Monday.

    “Iraq, Pakistan and Kuwait have expressed interest in the Ratnik Russian military equipment system. It is too early to talk about any contacts,” Dmitry Semizorov told reporters at IDEX-2015 arms exhibition in the United Arab Emirates.

    The Ratnik set is composed of more than 40 parts, including firearms, body armor and optical, communication and navigation devices, as well as life support and power supply systems. It enables voice and video communication between soldiers and squadron leaders.


    Ratnik presented at IDEX 2015


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    Post  a89 Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:30 pm

    Hello sheytanelkebir

    is there any update on Iraq's T-90 acquisition/negotiations?

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    Post  sheytanelkebir Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:35 pm

    a89 wrote:Hello sheytanelkebir

    is there any update on Iraq's T-90 acquisition/negotiations?


    well. its an interesting topic.

    already officially for over a year now the MOD has said they're awaiting induction of the T90 and a battalion has started training to "induct it" .

    meanwhile the only orders / deliveries we know of for sure are about 18-24 T90 Chassis that are used for "specialist vehicles" (AVLB, TOS-1A etc...)



    so the topic seems very quiet... yet at the same time the confirmation from Iraqi MOD as well as the delivery of specialist vehicles on T90 seems to be a positive indication.

    The cautionary point in the matter is that nothing about this has leaked from the Russian side, neither uralvagonzavod nor rosoboronexport. which seems odd IMHO.
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    Post  a89 Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:15 am

    sheytanelkebir, many thanks for the answer. There has been talk on the Russian press about several Middle East countries interested in T-90SM, but no contracts yet.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:42 pm

    Radars on the mi28...
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    Post  mack8 Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:42 pm

    Nice, thanks Sheytan! Iraq is indeed the first country to get them, even before Russia!

    Any info or rumours or anything about the additional "Sukhois"?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:52 pm

    I presume it is for additional Su25.

    Iraq had cancelled the l159 and mig29m in order to make emergency funding for this apparently...

    Presumably also things like buk and s350 and other items also took a backseat in order to fund immediate requirements... Artillery sniper rifles and cas planes.
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    Post  mack8 Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:03 am

    So there was really a contract for MiG-29M (poor MiG must be jinxed, Syria, Egypt, Serbia, Iraq all looked like sure thing...)?! And surprised to hear about S-350, the IMoD really expressed interest in it?

    Anyway, regarding Su-25, just some personal thoughts, read a rumour  recently that Gefest&T will install it's SVP-24 upgrade in Su-25, but apparently it's not Su-25SM, it's for another upgrade "branch". Perhaps it's for export, so Iraq would be a good candidate. (significantly increased precision with guided or unguided ammunition afforded by the SVP-24 would be a big boon for IrAF Su-25s).
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:06 am

    I suspect you could be correct about the upgraded Su25... Wink

    Let's hope we still see mig35 in iraqi colours someday.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:18 pm

    mack8 wrote:Nice, thanks Sheytan! Iraq is indeed the first country to get them, even before Russia!

    Any info or rumours or anything about the additional "Sukhois"?

    Russians have them since 2011 in active service.
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    Post  zg18 Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:25 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    mack8 wrote:Nice, thanks Sheytan! Iraq is indeed the first country to get them, even before Russia!

    Russians have them since 2011 in active service.

    He meant radar mounted on Mi-28 , Iraqis are first to use it actively.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:27 pm

    zg18 wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    mack8 wrote:Nice, thanks Sheytan! Iraq is indeed the first country to get them, even before Russia!

    Russians have them since 2011 in active service.

    He meant radar mounted on Mi-28 , Iraqis are first to use it actively.

    Iraqis only have MMW bandwidth, russians are making it with CMW bandwidth so it can be used against air targets 360° which Iraqi version does not have only 120° for ground targets. Russians have it but the CMW bandwidth to make it operational makes trouble.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:26 pm

    I really hope this happens.

    The head of the parliament security and defence committee has put forward a request in the parliament to begin the cancellation procedures for the F16 IQ program and recover all monies paid due to the breach of contract by the US side and expiration of all delay clauses.

    I really hope the parliament and MOD go through with this request!
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    Post  mack8 Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:52 pm

    That would be a welcomed development given this is probably one of the biggest defence shams as of yet (2 billion or more spent for absolutely nothing in return), but one can bet that the yankees and their stooges will do anything to stop this from happening.

    And on a tangent, as i have read recently that Iraq might be sitting as much as 500 billion barrels of oil, which even at 40 euros a barrel comes to no less than 20 TRILLION euros (!), no wonder the neighbouring jackals and the yankee POSs backing them have thrown Iraq into this mess... i just hope they'll manage to somehow get over this like Algeria did, would be heartbreaking to have the jihadist scum and their even more disgusting sponsors win...
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:27 am

    well that was probably just bluster in the parliament sadly. the Iraqi PM went to USA to beg for some more crumbs.
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    Post  iraqidabab Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:06 am

    When is the MIG-35 going to enter full production ?
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    Post  TR1 Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:30 am

    No sooner than 2017 realistically.
    They are supposed to be contracted in 2016, we will see.


    BTW:

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/03/blog-post_71.html

    New TOS-1A from Omsk. Likely for Iraq.
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:10 am

    TR1 wrote:http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/03/blog-post_71.html

    New TOS-1A from Omsk. Likely for Iraq.

    and Kamaz based transport-reload vehicles instead of the tracked ones ordered previously
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:50 pm

    Iraqi Kamov KA-52 undergoing flight testing in Russia.

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:53 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:Iraqi Kamov KA-52 undergoing flight testing in Russia.

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    Since when is it going to iraq? Smells like US trying to get their hands on it via Iraq.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:55 pm

    I believe it was ordered 18 months ago.

    so now we've seen...

    Mi35M
    Mi28Ne including Mast Mounted Radar
    KA-52

    ... Iraqi army aviation looking potent.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:58 pm

    I really hope not, the Ka-52 is beyond iraqi military budget and supply chain and that does smell even more like a ruse, just like with Maroccan T-80U.

    Iraq just simply has no capabilities to maintain 3 different attack helicopters.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:04 pm

    it seems like this was an april fools.

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1392&p=31741#p31741
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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:39 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:it seems like this was an april fools.

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1392&p=31741#p31741

    That's good, for a min there i thought the Iraqi MoD had lost there minds or were going the "Moroccan" route.

    Anyway they already have the Mi-24/35 (good for dropping of some boys while giving them fire support or EVAC from a hot zone) which they've been operation for year and they now have the Mi-28 a dedicated attack helicopter.

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