sheytanelkebir wrote:interesting news.
Whilst in theory the BTR4 is a better vehicle, the Ukrainians have really disappointed with their production schedules and quality... there was a potential $2.5Bn military agreement between Iraq and Ukraine... but its all gone to hell now.
Yep that's what I thought immediately of too; the Ukrainian BTR-4 contract.
SO what's the status on it anyway? Will it be cancelled? How many vehicles have been delivered and put into service? Will any more deliveries be accepted and the current contract fulfilled?
The 6 AN32s they sold to Iraq, they tried to pass off second hand cockpit and second hand engines as "new"... which the Iraqis rejected... then they had the BTR4s, not only late but with manufacturing defects, lack of engines and jamming guns among other "problems"!!
OMG are you serious?
'lack of engines'? Do you mean that literally?
I don't want to be harsh on the Ukrainians but this is pure gold. About the other "problems", please tell us more..
I guess Russia had a few such problems with some of its contracts, but never anything so extensive or obvious as I recall.
all in all, the impression is that the Ukrainians seem to have fallen for the false stereotyping of "stupid arabs with money" when it came to dealing with Iraqis.
More like the Iraqis have fallen for the Ukrainians.
Ukroboronprom is like that 2nd hand car dealership on the outskirts of town with the shifty dealer. Everyone knows its bad news, and you get only what you pay for, sometimes less; but some people still like to fancy their luck securing a bargain, they think that they are smart enough to avoid getting ripped-off.
Well Iraq has been taught a lesson I guess.