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    U.S Military encirclement of China

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    Post  andalusia Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:02 am

    This is interesting that this article says that the US overestimated Russia's military but might be underestimating China:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-overestimated-russia-military-might-190000813.html
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:27 am

    Sounds like a tactical shift away from Russia as the bad guy towards China taking that position... is this a thawing of mentality towards Russia...

    Who cares... they are not going to respond with hugs and forgiveness for the US sending weapons to kill their soldiers in the Ukraine...
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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:58 am

    andalusia wrote:This is interesting that this article says that the US overestimated Russia's military but might be underestimating China:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-overestimated-russia-military-might-190000813.html

    Drivel. General Miley claimed Russia would take Kiev in three days. Either he is a full bore retard or all of these "estimates" are political
    BS. Kiev had a population of 3.5 million and clearly Ukrainian military was deployed inside the city. So Russia was supposed to take
    this city with around 50,000 troops? In three days? How? The US could not carry out such an operation.

    To this day none of these US talking heads has even acknowledged that taking over Kiev was never a goal of the Russian operation
    from day one or even in the short term. These clowns deliberately focused away from the Donbass to maintain the propaganda narrative
    that Russia was conducting an invasion and not a right to protect mission. You may find such drivel worthy of note, but I find it to be
    a waste of this forum's bandwidth.

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    Post  Hole Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:45 pm

    Well, Miley is the boss of an army with mediocre artillery, no air defence and logistics relying on civilian companies. What do you expect from such a "professional"?

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:53 pm

    Hole wrote:Well, Miley is the boss of an army with mediocre artillery, no air defence and logistics relying on civilian companies. What do you expect from such a "professional"?

    That does not stop them from acting like the rulers of Earth. They smell their own shit and think it is roses.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:37 am

    The hit and run tactics they tried to impliment with the Orcs hasn't worked... that was the basis of HATOs plan... Germany and France and the UK etc were supposed to sit back while the front line countries grind the Russians down with guerilla warfare and the Russians were supposed to pour troops into the grinder using up men... well... like Kiev is currently doing... and then when they run out of men they mobilise the conscript cannon fodder.... and then political and economic collapse... and then HATO moves in and starts taking over resources and territory like they were in the Middle East 100 years ago dividing up the land and creating new countries with made up royal families intended to never get along and therefore never unite and work together against the western occupation and rule.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:42 pm

    You are right, that was the plan. But this plan was and remains shockingly inane. Did the NATzO special services have no information about
    the ethnic/cultural/political divisions in Ukraine? We had lots of voting data before 2014 and well recorded history of the last 100 years.
    Did the NATzO deciders think that the Maidan coup in 2014 converted the south and east of Ukraine into Banderite strongholds? Apparently
    they did. This evaluation is supported by the massive brainwashing campaign in Ukraine before and especially after 2014. It appears that
    NATzO was banking on this Ukr media effort and was expecting that in 8 years enough of the population of Russia-sympathetic Ukrainians
    was converted into foot soldiers of Russia hate. There was some success as we saw with the Azov battalion where lots of ethnic Russian
    Banderites gathered. But the conversion into the Bandera hate cult was not as effective as NATzO wished for.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:28 pm

    The other factor is that using nazis to control those in the south and the east of the country has probably opened the eyes of the natives of those regions as to how rapidly evil ukrainians can be against fellow Ukrainians in their south and east...

    Bit of an education to see how bat shit crazy these people are... but then the Nazis were shocked at how keen these people and people from the Baltic regions were to sadistic cruelty to jews and other designated bad guys in their damaged world view...

    The core of the problem is that they have gurus and experts like that Japanese guy... what is his name... something like fuckyourmama or something... that just spews out blind hate for Russia and Putin... he is repeatedly wrong, but just doubles down and continues the same line of crap because that seems to be what those in charge want to hear and so he remains popular with those in power.

    I doubt they will do any better against China, but it is good for China and India and Brazil and South Africa and the rest of the world to see this...

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