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    Post  Sujoy on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:03 pm

    GarryB wrote: Loser little countries always band together to be manipulated by the big powerful ones again... funny you mention France and Australia and India and even Japan, but you don't mention the puppet master by name that made you all get together to counter Chinese "aggressions"... hint USA... and those aggressions are actually Chinese whispers... another colonial western creation... a country becoming aggressive means starting to act in its own interests and not in ours.
    I'm quite certain that if China decides to invade each of these countries - India, Australia, Japan etc individually none of these countries will come to the rescue of the other. They might share some real time intelligence but that's about it.

    However, China's belligerence has made almost all the countries in South, South East Asia that are major customers of Russian military hardware forge some sort of de facto alliance. Japan's newly elected PM is now visiting Vietnam and Indonesia and has promised arms sales to these countries. Also, observe that Russia is not asking any of these South, South Asian countries to refrain from creating an anti China alliance. OTOH, Russia just concluded a military logistic sharing pact with India. Effectively allowing both these two countries from accessing each others military bases.
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:26 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    GarryB wrote: Loser little countries always band together to be manipulated by the big powerful ones again... funny you mention France and Australia and India and even Japan, but you don't mention the puppet master by name that made you all get together to counter Chinese "aggressions"... hint USA... and those aggressions are actually Chinese whispers... another colonial western creation... a country becoming aggressive means starting to act in its own interests and not in ours.
    I'm quite certain that if China decides to invade each of these countries - India, Australia, Japan etc individually none of these countries will come to the rescue of the other. They might share some real time intelligence but that's about it.

    However, China's belligerence has made almost all the countries in South, South East Asia that are major customers of Russian military hardware forge some sort of de facto alliance. Japan's newly elected PM is now visiting Vietnam and Indonesia and has promised arms sales to these countries. Also, observe that Russia is not asking any of these South, South Asian countries to refrain from creating an anti China alliance. OTOH, Russia just concluded a military logistic sharing pact with India. Effectively allowing both these two countries from accessing each others military bases.

    France also says Russia is not the enemy, China is.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:37 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    GarryB wrote: Loser little countries always band together to be manipulated by the big powerful ones again... funny you mention France and Australia and India and even Japan, but you don't mention the puppet master by name that made you all get together to counter Chinese "aggressions"... hint USA... and those aggressions are actually Chinese whispers... another colonial western creation... a country becoming aggressive means starting to act in its own interests and not in ours.
    I'm quite certain that if China decides to invade each of these countries - India, Australia, Japan etc individually none of these countries will come to the rescue of the other. They might share some real time intelligence but that's about it.

    However, China's belligerence has made almost all the countries in South, South East Asia that are major customers of Russian military hardware forge some sort of de facto alliance. Japan's newly elected PM is now visiting Vietnam and Indonesia and has promised arms sales to these countries. Also, observe that Russia is not asking any of these South, South Asian countries to refrain from creating an anti China alliance. OTOH, Russia just concluded a military logistic sharing pact with India. Effectively allowing both these two countries from accessing each others military bases.


    All this talk of China invading any country or Russia invading Europe is nonsense, every country in world knows it. It is just so countries can spend on arms and corrupt bureaucrats can make money. Every country trades with each other and they rely on investments from China and vice versa.

    The days of countries invading is gone long(unless the country is stupid and wants to bankrupt itself like the US and it vassals), so these alliances are just pintless.

    The types of wars that will become common are hybrid wars, proxy wars and hidden wars. These wars will be fought in countries that don't belong to the belligerents(Syria, Ukraine and Iraq as examples) and these wars will be fought with Mercenaries, Biological Weapons and Special Forces(I think we will see countries focus more on these things and focus less on conventional big armies). The powers of the world will not fight each other directly, it is too dangerous and expensive.

    China is Vietnam top trading partners, a lot of these countries depend on each other for trade.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:52 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/
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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:29 pm

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:34 pm

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    Such stuff happenes to plebs.

    France has one of the highest living standards in the world. We have many slaves. Its like dogs, they are helpful but evry now and then someone gets killed by dogs.

    You dont get rid of the cattle just because a cow kills a farmer.
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:35 pm

    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1

    No, in Russia they behead even babies

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-nanny-beheaded-girl-in-revenge-for-syria-airstrikes/

    Its part of their culture.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:45 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1

    No, in Russia they behead even babies

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-nanny-beheaded-girl-in-revenge-for-syria-airstrikes/

    Its part of their culture.


    Killing babies is not Russian culture, it is French culture. How many babies has the French killed in colonies?

    This is the future of France , Karma hitting abck.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:46 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    France...industrialized, western european high developed
    but how long will she stay that way? can she lift proporcional # of people out of poverty as China done in the same time period? 

    GDP per head of France: 41.761 $ one of highest in the world

    GDP per head of China: 10.726

    The average french earns 4 times as much as the average ching chong


    See what the cost of living is?
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:That's the current statics- there's no telling it will be so in 5 years. China's economy is already 2nd to the US'. France is the biggest continental nation in W. Europe, while China is in E. Asia. Yet France is under US control while China isn't. France got rich from her colonies & possessions while China is getting rich by developing her own local economy, transportation & trade. 
    And now she's getting ready for war over Taiwan. The RN will deploy her CV near China soon; will France follow suit with her CVN?

    Yes we are ready. Taiwan is a independend nation and Ching Chong will do nothing to change that.

    France was already rich long before colonialism. You dont conquer the world when you dont have the scoruces for that.

    France is not under US control.

    China gets rich by slaves, destroying nature in unimagimable scales.


    France is a US vassal, China does not get rich rich by slaves it is the French.

    You have French troops in Africa committing crimes, raping and killing and when the Africans come to France and rape French girls, little Frenchie's start crying.
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    Post  par far on Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:58 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...

    Have fun learning Arabic and Islamic cultrue.

    https://rmx.news/article/article/macron-s-new-plan-to-end-separatism-arabic-taught-in-schools-and-10-million-to-promote-islamic-culture
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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:09 am

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    France...industrialized, western european high developed
    but how long will she stay that way? can she lift proporcional # of people out of poverty as China done in the same time period? 

    GDP per head of France: 41.761 $ one of highest in the world

    GDP per head of China: 10.726

    The average french earns 4 times as much as the average ching chong


    See what the cost of living is?

    A show stopper question. Also GDP per capita =/= personal income. This is one of the biggest pieces of BS out there.
    The GDP reflects all of a country's extraterritorial economic footprint. That money does not trickle down to the average
    citizen of the home country. In the case of the USA, a lot of it is parked offshore to avoid taxes.

    China is developing. France is not. So we have the usual apples and cucumbers comparisons.

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    Post  Aristide on Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:43 am

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1

    No, in Russia they behead even babies

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-nanny-beheaded-girl-in-revenge-for-syria-airstrikes/

    Its part of their culture.


    Killing babies is not Russian culture, it is French culture. How many babies has the French killed in colonies?  

    This is the future of France , Karma hitting abck.

    There were no human babies in our colonies.
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:45 am

    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    France...industrialized, western european high developed
    but how long will she stay that way? can she lift proporcional # of people out of poverty as China done in the same time period? 

    GDP per head of France: 41.761 $ one of highest in the world

    GDP per head of China: 10.726

    The average french earns 4 times as much as the average ching chong


    See what the cost of living is?

    A show stopper question.   Also GDP per capita =/= personal income.   This is one of the biggest pieces of BS out there.
    The GDP reflects all of a country's extraterritorial economic footprint.   That money does not trickle down to the average
    citizen of the home country.   In the case of the USA, a lot of it is parked offshore to avoid taxes.

    China is developing.  France is not.  So we have the usual apples and cucumbers comparisons.


    France has one of the highest living standards in the world. China is a 3rd world shithole. Thats the show stopper.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:46 am

    China is a 3rd world shithole. Thats the show stopper.
    She's already firmly in the 2nd world, helped the Koreans/Vietnamese to fight French/Americans till they no longer on their borders, & just started to stop American adventurism:
    https://asiatimes.com/2020/10/losing-trade-tech-war-means-end-of-us-imperialism/?mc_cid=a75488d572&mc_eid=5455568640

    In a few years she'll have B-2-like strategic bombers + more SSBNs & CVNs than the French Navy.


    France was already rich long before colonialism. You dont conquer the world when you dont have the scoruces for that.
    Spain & Portugal were in the worse shape but still managed to get more/bigger colonies. In the same time period, most Russians were even poorer than French, but colonized/settled the N. Caucasus,  Siberia, C. Asia, FE & Alaska.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:04 am

    Yes we are ready. Taiwan is a independend nation and Ching Chong will do nothing to change that.

    The people of Taiwan are genetically Chinese... which is more than you can say for the genetic makeup of the people of New Caledonia compared with the people of France.

    The issue between Taiwan and China is a political issue... between two ethically Chinese people.

    France is not under US control.

    Did you get permission from Washington to say that?

    China gets rich by slaves, destroying nature in unimagimable scales.

    Hahaha... but the west is pure and innocent and pays a decent wage to foreigners working their mines and cotton plantations and coffee bean fields...

    Funny how in the west there is a thing called ethical coffee where the farmers are paid a fair price for their products... the fun thing being coffee that is not ethical where the people who make the actual product get screwed by the western companies they work for is a choice to be made by the consumer prepared to pay more... most don't give a shit and buy the cheaper stuff made by slaves...

    China became wealthy because the west used them as slave labour for the last 30 years to make their cheap consumer shit... and you blame them for using slaves...


    France joining BRI would be similar to Sophia Loren joining some dirty plebs at a garage party.

    That slut has been banned from our parties for a decade.... bitch hogs the cocaine.... Razz

    I'm quite certain that if China decides to invade each of these countries - India, Australia, Japan etc individually none of these countries will come to the rescue of the other. They might share some real time intelligence but that's about it.

    The fact that you think they would invade suggests you are already addicted to the Kool Aide... a bit like Putins aggression and wanting to invade the Baltic states and Ukraine and Belarus and Georgia... He is not interested in invadeding or occupying any of these countries or regions... but don't tell them that... Russia bad...

    Also, observe that Russia is not asking any of these South, South Asian countries to refrain from creating an anti China alliance.

    Because Russia is not the sort of aggressive country that turns countries against each other and creates coalitions of the fucking stupid to create war and death and chaos because that is how they sell weapons and ammo and keep countries from good relations and trading to a better economic future...

    Which group of countries wants BRICS to fail and rivals like India and China to fight each other instead of develop and become rivals to western hegemony?

    France also says Russia is not the enemy, China is.

    Of course the concept is divide and conquer... no point taking on Russia because economically Russia isn't a significant threat yet.... China is... but it is Russia that is the military threat while China is becoming a military threat so lets get China first and get Russia next...

    All this talk of China invading any country or Russia invading Europe is nonsense, every country in world knows it. It is just so countries can spend on arms and corrupt bureaucrats can make money. Every country trades with each other and they rely on investments from China and vice versa.

    Not just about arms and ammo sales... it is about keeping everyone else split up into smaller easier to manage groups... at the moment Australia and Japan are US controlled, but India isn't so adding India to Australia and Japan means the controls of India are not direct but they are there... Keeping China and Russia apart by getting the EU to focus on China but not on Russia is an attempt to separate them as well... which mean working on the R and the I and the C in BRICS... even if it only half works it will cause damage to a potential new rival.

    There were no human babies in our colonies.

    Good for your new Pacific allies against China to hear this?

    Yeah.... like I keep saying... Russia and China are not the bad guys here...

    In a few years she'll have B-2-like strategic bombers + more SSBNs & CVNs than the French Navy.

    And already has more integrity and class...

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    Post  Sujoy on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:28 am

    GarryB wrote:The fact that you think they would invade suggests you are already addicted to the Kool Aide... a bit like Putins aggression and wanting to invade the Baltic states and Ukraine and Belarus and Georgia... He is not interested in invadeding or occupying any of these countries or regions... but don't tell them that... Russia bad...
    Putin has not invaded those countries but China already invaded India last May & continues to occupy 1000 sq kms of land.

    GarryB wrote:Because Russia is not the sort of aggressive country that turns countries against each other and creates coalitions of the fucking stupid to create war and death and chaos because that is how they sell weapons and ammo and keep countries from good relations and trading to a better economic future...
    FAIL. Russia benefits big time from conflicts because it is one of the major exporter of weapons. Already they have reached out to India asking the Indian government to purchase certain weapons that can be used effectively against China. CSTO is a military alliance much like NATO.
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:51 am

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1

    No, in Russia they behead even babies

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-nanny-beheaded-girl-in-revenge-for-syria-airstrikes/

    Its part of their culture.


    Killing babies is not Russian culture, it is French culture. How many babies has the French killed in colonies?  

    This is the future of France , Karma hitting abck.

    The killer was a russian, born in moscow...

    So what do you suggest us? Smile
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:01 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Yes we are ready. Taiwan is a independend nation and Ching Chong will do nothing to change that.

    The people of Taiwan are genetically Chinese... which is more than you can say for the genetic makeup of the people of New Caledonia compared with the people of France.

    The issue between Taiwan and China is a political issue... between two ethically Chinese people.

    France is not under US control.

    Did you get permission from Washington to say that?

    China gets rich by slaves, destroying nature in unimagimable scales.

    Hahaha... but the west is pure and innocent and pays a decent wage to foreigners working their mines and cotton plantations and coffee bean fields...

    Funny how in the west there is a thing called ethical coffee where the farmers are paid a fair price for their products... the fun thing being coffee that is not ethical where the people who make the actual product get screwed by the western companies they work for is a choice to be made by the consumer prepared to pay more... most don't give a shit and buy the cheaper stuff made by slaves...

    China became wealthy because the west used them as slave labour for the last 30 years to make their cheap consumer shit... and you blame them for using slaves...


    France joining BRI would be similar to Sophia Loren joining some dirty plebs at a garage party.

    That slut has been banned from our parties for a decade.... bitch hogs the cocaine....   Razz

    I'm quite certain that if China decides to invade each of these countries - India, Australia, Japan etc individually none of these countries will come to the rescue of the other. They might share some real time intelligence but that's about it.

    The fact that you think they would invade suggests you are already addicted to the Kool Aide... a bit like Putins aggression and wanting to invade the Baltic states and Ukraine and Belarus and Georgia... He is not interested in invadeding or occupying any of these countries or regions... but don't tell them that... Russia bad...

    Also, observe that Russia is not asking any of these South, South Asian countries to refrain from creating an anti China alliance.

    Because Russia is not the sort of aggressive country that turns countries against each other and creates coalitions of the fucking stupid to create war and death and chaos because that is how they sell weapons and ammo and keep countries from good relations and trading to a better economic future...

    Which group of countries wants BRICS to fail and rivals like India and China to fight each other instead of develop and become rivals to western hegemony?

    France also says Russia is not the enemy, China is.

    Of course the concept is divide and conquer... no point taking on Russia because economically Russia isn't a significant threat yet.... China is... but it is Russia that is the military threat while China is becoming a military threat so lets get China first and get Russia next...

    All this talk of China invading any country or Russia invading Europe is nonsense, every country in world knows it. It is just so countries can spend on arms and corrupt bureaucrats can make money. Every country trades with each other and they rely on investments from China and vice versa.

    Not just about arms and ammo sales... it is about keeping everyone else split up into smaller easier to manage groups... at the moment Australia and Japan are US controlled, but India isn't so adding India to Australia and Japan means the controls of India are not direct but they are there... Keeping China and Russia apart by getting the EU to focus on China but not on Russia is an attempt to separate them as well... which mean working on the R and the I and the C in BRICS... even if it only half works it will cause damage to a potential new rival.

    There were no human babies in our colonies.

    Good for your new Pacific allies against China to hear this?

    Yeah.... like I keep saying... Russia and China are not the bad guys here...

    In a few years she'll have B-2-like strategic bombers + more SSBNs & CVNs than the French Navy.

    And already has more integrity and class...


    The large majority of New Caledonians is french ethnicity Gary. Have you ever visited Noumea? The Island capital?

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    My family has much land on Grand Terre, which is the main island of NC and it is our home. I have some kanak friends and i respect them.

    But we are the majority

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:25 am

    FAIL. Russia benefits big time from conflicts because it is one of the major exporter of weapons.

    Bullshit... Russia make about 100 billion in trade each year with China... very little of that is weapons these days, and India does not buy that much in terms of weapons either.

    China and India destroying each other would be very bad for Russian trade to both countries.... bloody good for US however because they can pick India and move their cheap low labour cost slave labour production from China to India and pretend they are doing it to help India when in actual fact it was starting to get expensive in China because wages were going up...

    China already invaded India last May & continues to occupy 1000 sq kms of land.

    Border disagreements over land that had no occupants at the time is hardly an invasion worth getting upset about.

    The killer was a russian, born in moscow...

    So what do you suggest us?

    Maybe treating your tourists better...

    The large majority of New Caledonians is french ethnicity Gary. Have you ever visited Noumea? The Island capital?

    Which means the French colonials outnumber the local natives.... no surprise referendums to remain with France seem to pass... but if they are the majority then 53% is a piss poor result if they are a majority... suggests even French colonials don't like France... wow...

    My family has much land on Grand Terre, which is the main island of NC and it is our home. I have some kanak friends and i respect them.

    But we are the majority

    53% is it?

    That is OK... as the west declines and China becomes more powerful they will get the transition just right I am sure...
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    Post  Sujoy on Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:42 am

    GarryB wrote:Bullshit... Russia make about 100 billion in trade each year with China... very little of that is weapons these days, and India does not buy that much in terms of weapons either.
    And makes US$ 200 billion in trade with EU. Russia's largest trading partner is EU not China. India doesn't buy much these days? It is still among the top 2 largest purchaser of Russian weapons.

    GarryB wrote:bloody good for US however because they can pick India and move their cheap low labour cost slave labour production from China to India and pretend they are doing it to help India when in actual fact it was starting to get expensive in China because wages were going up...
    Labour in India is much more expensive than China. Furthermore, doing business in China is far more easier than doing business in India. Hardly any US companies sets up manufacturing business in India.

    GarryB wrote:Border disagreements over land that had no occupants at the time is hardly an invasion worth getting upset about.
    Most of Western China is a desert, hardly has any occupant. Tibet, Xingiang are cold deserts. Yet China invaded and occupied those areas. If land that has no occupants is not worth invading, China should immediately vacate Tibet and Xingiang.

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    Post  par far on Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:34 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:What happens when India improves her relations with China- to whom the French will peddle their weapons? Australia is sitting on 2 chairs & soon will need to chose on which 1 it will settle down.
    France would benefit more by joining the BRI rather than sticking with Anglo-Saxons & their "5 eyes".

    Brazil...3rd world shithole
    Russia....poor population, underdeveloped and undemocratic
    India... 3rd world, massive poverty

    France...industrialized, western european high developed

    With all due respect but you know...


    France is becoming all of the things you mentioned, the 3rd world immigrants France is taking by the tens of thousands will ensure this, here enjoy this.

    "Terrorism investigation launched after teacher 'decapitated' in Paris suburb attack."

    https://www.rt.com/news/503740-beheading-attacker-shot-france-police/

    It's all Russian propaganda. lol1

    No, in Russia they behead even babies

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-nanny-beheaded-girl-in-revenge-for-syria-airstrikes/

    Its part of their culture.


    Killing babies is not Russian culture, it is French culture. How many babies has the French killed in colonies?  

    This is the future of France , Karma hitting abck.

    The killer was a russian, born in moscow...

    So what do you suggest us? Smile



    It suggests you are idiots for brining these killers into your country. Had these assholes been in Russia, they would have been dead or in prison. The killer in this case is a Chechen terrorist that west helped train(so France has a hand in making him a terrorist), there are a lot more of them coming, because France's president Emmanuel Moron is brining a lot more of them, so be ready for them.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:17 pm

    Funny how Chechens become Russians when something bad happens but all of the sudden become nothing like Russians when NATzO wants
    to break Russia up with secessionist militants. Also, this case is a bit of poetic justice since the succoring of terrorists is a common
    activity of the Canadian, US, and NATzO European governments in their never ending quest to divide and rule. France wants the
    Wahabbi cutthroat elements from Chechnya as a tool for destabilization of Russia. Putin should throw a brick in Micron's face.

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    Post  Aristide on Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:55 pm

    kvs wrote:Funny how Chechens become Russians when something bad happens but all of the sudden become nothing like Russians when NATzO wants
    to break Russia up with secessionist militants.   Also, this case is a bit of poetic justice since the succoring of terrorists is a common
    activity of the Canadian, US, and NATzO European governments in their never ending quest to divide and rule.   France wants the
    Wahabbi cutthroat elements from Chechnya as a tool for destabilization of Russia.    Putin should throw a brick in Micron's face.


    Last time i checked Chechenya is part of the Russian Federation and they hold russian passports
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    Post  Sujoy on Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:58 pm

    par far wrote: All this talk of China invading any country or Russia invading Europe is nonsense
    Russia doesn't invade other countries but last May China invaded and occupied 1000 sq kms of Indian territory. Of course the Indian armed forces are at fault too, because they could never detect these intrusions. Similarly, China has occupied areas in the South China Sea that belongs to Vietnam, Phillipines and even Indonesia. So China does invade countries.

    par far wrote:China is Vietnam top trading partners, a lot of these countries depend on each other for trade.
    Vietnam's territorial water has been transgressed by China. Vietnamese fisherman were attacked by the PLA Navy. Vietnam considers China a major threat to its integrity.

    China was India's largest trading partner too. That did not prevent China from invading India.

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