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    Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 25, 2014 12:11 pm

    Russian navy needs a good manager to come in and streamline production.

    Perhaps you are not paying attention... they are standardising everything, from sensors, weapons, and propulsion and command systems.

    The UKSK launch system replaces the Granit launcher, the Sandbox launcher, the Vulkan launcher, the SS-N-15 launcher, the Moskit launcher and a few other launchers that were not designed.

    The Redut system will do the same for SAMs except the Shtil-1 launcher will remain for export and some domestic ships.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:46 am

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=391983&download=2&type=.jpg

    Gun has been fitted. Positiv too.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:49 am

    Now they can start proper testing....  Very Happy 
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    Post  medo Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:15 pm

    Grigorovich have now all search and navigation radars. They have to install engagement radars and EW equipment as well as armament. Will they place Palma complex for CIWS?
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    Post  zg18 Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:23 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=391983&download=2&type=.jpg

    Gun has been fitted. Positiv too.

    Can`t see the pic , can you re-host it?
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:31 pm

    Balancers is down right now, try it in a few hours.

    Doesn't work for me right now either.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:57 am

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    Post  Dima Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:54 pm

    How many units can we expect to enter service this year?
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    Post  Flyingdutchman Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:15 pm

    Dima wrote:How many units can we expect to enter service this year?

    Two: the admiral grigorovich and the admiral essen.
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    Post  Dima Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:28 pm

    Thanks.
    So can we expect the next 2-3 next year itself?
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    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:02 am

    Dima wrote:Thanks.
    So can we expect the next 2-3 next year itself?

    Essen and Grigorovich enter this year. Essen was laid down in July, 2011, and "Admiral" Dec, 2010.

    Based off of the current speed of construction, both Makarov and Butakov should be in service by the end of 2015.

    Istomin and Kornilov should enter in 2016.

    So to answer your question, the rate is two per year. That being said, some could be cancelled or more ordered and that could affect the time of completion.
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    Post  T055 Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:04 am

    Mike E wrote:
    Dima wrote:Thanks.
    So can we expect the next 2-3 next year itself?

    Essen and Grigorovich enter this year. Essen was laid down in July, 2011, and "Admiral" Dec, 2010.

    Based off of the current speed of construction, both Makarov and Butakov should be in service by the end of 2015.

    Istomin and Kornilov should enter in 2016.

    So to answer your question, the rate is two per year. That being said, some could be cancelled or more ordered and that could affect the time of completion.

    Do you know when they enter service this year ?

    Finally, it looks like at least Grigorovich is being produced faster but I still have doubts that all six of them will be ready by 2016. But I hope I am wrong of course.

    Black Sea Fleet really needs them, so I hope they produce all six by 2016.
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    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:43 am

    T055 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    Dima wrote:Thanks.
    So can we expect the next 2-3 next year itself?

    Essen and Grigorovich enter this year. Essen was laid down in July, 2011, and "Admiral" Dec, 2010.

    Based off of the current speed of construction, both Makarov and Butakov should be in service by the end of 2015.

    Istomin and Kornilov should enter in 2016.

    So to answer your question, the rate is two per year. That being said, some could be cancelled or more ordered and that could affect the time of completion.

    Do you know when they enter service this year ?

    Finally, it looks like at least Grigorovich is being produced faster but I still have doubts that all six of them will be ready by 2016. But I hope I am wrong of course.

    Black Sea Fleet really needs them, so I hope they produce all six by 2016.

    The Grigorovich should enter whenever the Russian navy is ready to have it... I believe (?) it is going through trials or that it already completed them. - It was launched in mid-March.

    They should be on schedule. The Talwars were completed rather fast, nevermind the multiple year delay.

    Don't worry!
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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:50 pm

    Once they are producing them they should be able to lay them down much faster and get them ready faster as there are still checks and tests, but nothing like for the first vessel of a class.
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    Post  T055 Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:34 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    T055 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    Dima wrote:Thanks.
    So can we expect the next 2-3 next year itself?

    Essen and Grigorovich enter this year. Essen was laid down in July, 2011, and "Admiral" Dec, 2010.

    Based off of the current speed of construction, both Makarov and Butakov should be in service by the end of 2015.

    Istomin and Kornilov should enter in 2016.

    So to answer your question, the rate is two per year. That being said, some could be cancelled or more ordered and that could affect the time of completion.

    Do you know when they enter service this year ?

    Finally, it looks like at least Grigorovich is being produced faster but I still have doubts that all six of them will be ready by 2016. But I hope I am wrong of course.

    Black Sea Fleet really needs them, so I hope they produce all six by 2016.

    The Grigorovich should enter whenever the Russian navy is ready to have it... I believe (?) it is going through trials or that it already completed them. - It was launched in mid-March.

    They should be on schedule. The Talwars were completed rather fast, nevermind the multiple year delay.

    Don't worry!

    That's the crazy irony in all this. Russia producing Talwars for India long time ago, while struggling to produce just about the same ship for its own navy.

    Black Sea Fleet need these ships, like yesterday.

    I hope they are on time, this time (by 2016).
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    Post  Mike E Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:21 pm

    I wouldn't say struggling... Yeah, they could be completed faster but two per year is still decent.

    Like I said, they will get them on time.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:22 am

    Hardly the same ships... or do you think the Russian ships will have the same systems fitted to export models?

    The export models were paid for by their customers... the new Russian models need to be fully developed and paid for and tested now.

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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:45 pm

    2nd unit (Admiral Essen)of the class is in an advanced stage of construction. Should be launched soon. 3rd unit (Admiral Makarov) is next to it.

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=406511&download=1
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    Post  Mike E Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:00 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:2nd unit (Admiral Essen)of the class is in an advanced stage of construction. Should be launched soon. 3rd unit (Admiral Makarov) is next to it.

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=406511&download=1
    Great news.... ETA?
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:37 pm

    we are close to the end of the year and i dont see deliveries, and i am getting nervous..
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    Post  Mike E Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:50 pm

    George1 wrote:we are close to the end of the year and i dont see deliveries, and i am getting nervous..
    Worst case scenario, it will be delivered in early 2015... A few months makes little to no difference. At least the Black Sea Fleet will receive the one Improved-Kilo in the mean time!
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    Post  Vympel Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:32 am

    Is there some pressing need for it to be delivered before the end of the year? It'll be done when its done, a few months make no difference.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:13 pm

    But little girl whiny fangurls want it now... and a pony... and someone to get all this sand out of her...
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    Post  Mike E Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:44 pm

    navyfield wrote:
    GarryB wrote:But little girl whiny fangurls want it now... and a pony... and someone to get all this sand out of her...
    well ofcourse it doesnt matter ,it just happends syria is currently bombed (no russian ships around) , and we could see some cruise missile accidently stray into the house of Assad Wink
    What could Russia even do about that! Simply moving some ships out to Syrian waters won't stop anything NATO wants/is going to do, all while raising tensions. - This is common sense, and I'd *love it* if you could please try and post something beneficial rather than trolling.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:41 am

    As Mike says... having three Russian carriers in the Med wont make US cruise missiles top hitting baby milk factories and Chinese Embassies... it was like they intended those targets to be hit...

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