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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

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    Post  zg18 Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:36 am

    http://ria56.ru/posts/vojjska_v_2014_g_poluchat_okolo_1_7_tys_edinic_bronetekhniki745687845645.htm

    4,500 tanks and other vehicles will be modernized this year. Of those 800 will be "deeply" modernized.

    800 "deeply" modernized = 800 T-72B3? Smile 

    Or maybe BTR-82  is also considered deep modernization?
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    Post  TR1 Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:45 am

    Fairy tales.

    They are at best including tanks being taken out of reserve and brought into service to replace the thousands of T-80s being withdrawn.
    Also probably mixing up tanks and other armored vehicles.

    Regarding deep modernization (B3 and upcoming B4) the number will be ~250 at most. Probably less.


    EDIT: При этом в 2014 году планируется отремонтировать более 4,5 тысяч танков, бронемашин и автомобилей, причем около 800 из них пройдут глубокую модернизацию.

    Yep, they are including tanks, armored vehicles and automotive vehicles. So I guess it is possible, I mean the army has tens of thousands of tracked and wheeled vehicles, and they need minor repairs often to stay combat capable.

    800 considering T-72s, BTR-80 (130 IIRC this year to be modernized), BMP-2 (they are planning to kapremont 112 of them), BMD-2 modernization....it adds up.
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    Post  Viktor Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:01 am

    We provided basically the same links but what is interesting is that at the same time when Russian airforce is experiencing massive influx of new planes and helicopters,

    Russian PVO experiencing massive influx all types of SAM and radar and command systems and the same goes for the Navy but now during 2014 it seems we will see truly

    robust rearmament of Russian Ground troops.
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    Post  zg18 Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:21 am

    Viktor wrote:.....during 2014 it seems we will see truly robust rearmament of Russian Ground troops.

    New uniform enters service for starters  Smile 

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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:51 pm

    Jesus:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/3fIHi.jpg


    A bunch of ridiculous awesome stuff:

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?99988-Russian-Photos-%28updated-on-regular-basis%29/page3676

    Last two pages.
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    Post  zg18 Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:01 pm

    TR1 wrote:Jesus:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/3fIHi.jpg

    I`m wondering , how many towed 120mm Nona-s does army have?
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:01 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahimtOnk4tk

    13:23.

    Koalition turret test stand.

    Jesus this video is a freaking gold mine.
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    Post  Zivo Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:06 pm

    TR1 wrote:Jesus:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/3fIHi.jpg


    A bunch of ridiculous awesome stuff:

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?99988-Russian-Photos-%28updated-on-regular-basis%29/page3676

    Last two pages.

    Wow, good find. That remote weapon station is impressive.

    Any idea what that larger BPPU-esque turret is for?
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    Post  Zivo Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:13 pm

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahimtOnk4tk

    13:23.

    Koalition turret test stand.

    Jesus this video is a freaking gold mine.

    Kurganets-25 model at 5:33?  Shocked 
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:14 pm

    Zivo wrote:
    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahimtOnk4tk

    13:23.

    Koalition turret test stand.

    Jesus this video is a freaking gold mine.

    Kurganets-25 model at 5:33?  Shocked 

    Looks pretty much similar to the renders we have seen so far, so I would say yes.

    Just simplified, though maybe not by much. Applique armor makes that simple box like appearance all you really need from the base hull.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:19 pm

    At 4:36 they talk about work on the 2B24 82mm Mortar. Through the use of a lightened barrel and titanium back plate, the mass of the mortar in ready to fire position has been lowered from 45, to 32 kilograms.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:25 pm

    Sorry to keep post whoring, BUT:

    http://s4.uploads.ru/BjD76.jpg

    Aside from the Koalition model, interesting vehicle on the left on the Armata chassis.
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    Post  Zivo Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:35 pm

    The hull by itself looks very narrow on Kurganets-25. Chances are the side skirts are going to be very wide.

    Aside from the Koalition model, interesting vehicle on the left on the Armata chassis.

    I think it's the BMPT model we've already seen. It's from a new angle so I can't complain. It gives a good impression as to how large the Armata hull actually is.
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    Post  Zivo Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:34 am

    Kurganets-25 screen grabs.


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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:00 am

    Very interesting video... I don't speak Russian but the section from 6.50-7.10 looked to me to be liquid fuel being pumped into and mixed in a gun chamber... anyone who does speak Russian confirm or deny this section was about liquid propellent and mixing fuels in the chamber... Smile or is it just for cleaning barrels.. Sad
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    Post  medo Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:32 am

    GarryB wrote:Very interesting video... I don't speak Russian but the section from 6.50-7.10 looked to me to be liquid fuel being pumped into and mixed in a gun chamber... anyone who does speak Russian confirm or deny this section was about liquid propellent and mixing fuels in the chamber... :)or is it just for cleaning barrels.. Sad

    It is about liquid cooling on gun barrels, how to most effectively cool them. I think naval guns have liquid cooling for their rapid fire.
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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:43 pm

    They are talking about liquid cooling tests for perspective artillery systems. Interesting video, was nice to see young generation getting support in this sector.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:46 pm

    medo wrote:
    It is about liquid cooling on gun barrels, how to most effectively cool them. I think naval guns have liquid cooling for their rapid fire.
    yep, checked it too, velocity of water it says on the side of simulation. what a letdown, tho I dont think spraying a fine mist of propellant (works for gasoline engines)would generate the necessary increase in muzzle velocity, more like a couple tens of liters of the stuff.
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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:16 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    medo wrote:
    It is about liquid cooling on gun barrels, how to most effectively cool them. I think naval guns have liquid cooling for their rapid fire.
    yep, checked it too, velocity of water it says on the side of simulation. what a letdown, tho I dont think spraying a fine mist of propellant (works for gasoline engines)would generate the necessary increase in muzzle velocity, more like a couple tens of liters of the stuff.
    Let down ? I'm no expert, but wouldn't it be too much disadvantages for such method? The way I imagine liquid fuel would be used as travelling charge, what are Russian developments on this?
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    Post  etaepsilonk Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:58 pm

    I like so much that 120 mm mobile gun  love 
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    Post  TheArmenian Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:52 pm

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahimtOnk4tk

    13:23.

    Koalition turret test stand.

    Jesus this video is a freaking gold mine.

    It is interesting indeed.
    But I am more interested in what they haven't shown.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:41 pm

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    Post  TR1 Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:45 pm

    Hell of a sight:

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    Post  medo Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:58 pm

    All channels needed. TV, Thermal imager, laser range finder, IR missile locator, laser missile guiding channel.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:10 pm

    So it is confirmed, this is not Epoha, but "Epoha-lite" basically.

    Also I shudder to think how some reserve base conscripts will handle such delicate and complex hardware. For a while there is enough legacy equipment to fill out non-critical units, but eventually, the human problem will have to be dealt with.

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