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    Post  runaway Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:21 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    I don't like the idea of using turbofan aircraft for ASW.  Props are more fuel efficient and cheaper to maintain.  Speed is not really of essence for a patrol aircraft, loiter time is more important.  

    India has chosen P-8´s to replace their Tu-142, it has turbofan engines. P8 are intended to replace the old P3 Orion prop plane in US and other navies.
    With speed the plane is quicker on station and can cover a larger area in less time.

    Tu-142
    Crew: 11–13
    Length: 53.08 m (162 ft 5 in)
    Wingspan: 50.00 m (167 ft 8 in)
    Height: 12.12 m (39 ft 9 in)
    Wing area: 311.10 m² (3,348.76 ft²)
    Empty weight: 90,000 kg (198,000 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 185,000 kg (407,848 lb)
    Powerplant: 4 × Kuznetsov NK-12MP turboprops, 11,033 kW (14,795 shp) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 925 km/h (500 kt, 575 mph)
    Cruise speed: 711 km/h (384 kt, 442 mph)
    Combat radius: 6,500 km (3,454 nmi, 3,977 mi)
    Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,000 ft)

    P8
    Crew: Flight: 2; Mission: 7
    Length: 129 ft 5 in (39.47 m)
    Wingspan: 123 ft 6 in (37.64 m)
    Height: 42 ft 1 in (12.83 m)
    Empty weight: 138,300 lb (62,730 kg)
    Max. takeoff weight: 189,200 lb (85,820 kg)
    Powerplant: 2 × CFM56-7B turbofan, 27,000 lbf (120 kN) each
    Performance
    Maximum speed: 490 knots (907 km/h)
    Cruise speed: 440 kn (815 km/h)
    Range: 1,200 nmi (2,222 km); 4 hours on station (for anti-submarine warfare mission)
    Service ceiling: 41,000 ft (12,496 m)


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    Post  Viktor Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:36 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Russian Defense Ministry will receive 28 upgraded anti-IL-38 by 2020
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    Post  TR1 Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:37 am

    http://armstass.su/?page=article&aid=126426&cid=25

    MOD to modernize 28 Il-38s by 2020.
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    Post  Austin Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:24 pm

    Company "Ilyushin" Russian Defense Ministry submitted a proposal to establish a patrol aircraft based on the Il-114 passenger




    March 31, AEX.ru - company "Ilyushin" submitted a proposal to the Defense Ministry to establish patrol aircraft based on passenger IL-114. This writes the ITAR-TASS referring to the chief designer of the IL-114 Nicholas Talikov's books.


    "IL-114 can effectively be used to patrol. Firstly, it has the proper duration of the flight, and it is - at least 11 hours - said Talikov. - Secondly, it allows you to install it on all the necessary equipment to patrol."

    "We have submitted your application and pending military department" - added Talikov.
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    Post  Viktor Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:48 am

    3rd modernized Il-38N

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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:00 pm

    Another modernized Il-38

    Complete the modernization of the first serial IL-38
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    Post  Viktor Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:31 pm

    First serial modernization


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    Post  George1 Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:39 am

    what is the average age of IL-38s?? 30 years?
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    Post  Vympel Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:03 pm

    http://rostechnologiesblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/multipurpose-amphibious-aircraft-a-40-to-return-in-the-russian-air-force/

    The Beriev A-40 is coming back.
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    Post  Austin Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:31 am

    Russia receives first serially upgraded Il-38N MPA


    The first serially produced Il-38N 'May' maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare aircraft has been handed over to the Russian Navy by the Ilyushin Aviation Complex.

    The Il-38N is an upgrade to the original Il-38 maritime patrol aircraft (MPA), a derivative of the Il-18 'Coot' transport aircraft, designed for independent (or joint) long-range anti-submarine activities, naval reconnaissance, search and rescue operations, ecological monitoring, and mine laying roles.

    Ilyushin has been upgrading five Russian Naval Aviation Il-38 aircraft to the new Il-38N standard under a RUB3.45 billion (USD150 million) contract awarded by the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) on 25 May 2012. This serial upgrade contract was signed following the successful entry to service of a prototype Il-38N with the Northern Fleet in March 2012. Ilyushin officials have previously stated that 28 Il-38 anti-submarine aircraft are planned to be upgraded to the Il-38N standard by 2020.

    The Il-38N upgrade involves the installation of a new flight navigation suite and the Novella search and track system (STS), which includes radar, hydroacoustic, magnetometric, electronic reconnaissance, thermal imaging reconnaissance, computing, and navigation subsystems.



    On detecting a submarine, the Il-38N, fitted with the Novella STS, starts to localise a contact with subsequent tracking and destruction of the target in a highly automated mode.

    The functions left to the crew are supervision and decision-taking. Search efficiency in the near and distant zones is said to have been improved by a factor of four - allowing a single Il-38N aircraft to cover an area four times larger than that assigned to the original Il-38. In doing so, Novella can simultaneously keep track of 32 targets both over and underwater.

    The radar subsystem has a slot array receiver/transmitter antenna with mechanical azimuth scanning and adjustable transmitter frequency. The radar is understood to be able to detect aerial targets at 90 km, waterborne ones at 320 km, and a submarine periscope (with a 1 m² echoing area) at 30-35 km.

    The dual module radio hydroacoustic subsystem can operate with buoys via 96 channels, and is run by a single operator. Each module provides a complete cycle of information reception and processing from eight buoys. Three types of sonar buoys are used: RGB-41 passive, non-directional sonar; RGB-48 passive, directional sonar; and the GB-58 active emitter sonar buoy. For hydrologic reconnaissance RTB-93 buoys are used, and the new RMB-81 buoy is used for detecting a submarine based on its magnetic signature. Also installed on the aircraft is a quantum magnetometer with a submarine detection range of up to 900 m.

    Meanwhile, a gyro-stabilised electro-optic infrared (EOIR) system provides detection, tracking, and categorisation of surface targets.

    The computing subsystem is used to process the output from all the other subsystems and to control the entire complex. Two operators work with information systems and co-ordinate the performance of tactical tasks, whereas a third runs the radar and radio reconnaissance subsystem. In designing the new STS, special attention was given to minimising the amount of controls.

    Companies involved in the Il-38N modernisation programme include Ilyushin, Myasishchev Machine Building Plant, and Leninets Central Research and Production Association.
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    Post  Mike E Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:55 am

    Pacific Fleet Ships, Aircraft Respond to Simulated Enemy Threat During Drills

    Some 30 ships alongside air forces of the Pacific Fleet have started warding off the attack of a simulated enemy during military exercises in Russia's Far East

    VLADIVOSTOK, September 21 (RIA Novosti) - Some 30 ships alongside air forces of the Pacific Fleet have started warding off the attack of a simulated enemy during military exercises in Russia's Far East, a Russian Defense Ministry representative reported Sunday.
    "Hunter-killer and minesweeping task teams of the Pacific Fleet have been placed in the designated areas of the northwestern Pacific, the Sea of Okhotsk and the Sea of Japan. After that, they started practicing warding off the attack on the fleet," the representative said.
    He also said that the exercise sees the participation of approximately 30 vessels that cooperate with anti-submarine air force units including Il-38 and Tu-142 aircraft, as well as Ka-27PL helicopters. The air force units are tasked with locating the submarines of the simulated enemy in the designated areas.
    The Tu-142 and Il-38 crews will place sonobuoys in the areas where the submarines are presumably located and the helicopter crews will practice searching for the submarine with the help of hydroacoustic stations.
    "Anti-submarine ships … have to detect and classify the submarine of the simulated enemy in the shortest time, repel its attack and use rocket-propelled depth charges to force the submarine to surface," the source added.
    The operation is conducted as part of the Vostok 2014 strategic military exercises in the Eastern Military District. The drills are taking place from September 19 to 25. The exercises were preceded by unannounced combat readiness checks.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:48 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Modernized Il-38N second contract in 2012
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:17 pm

    Can someone give us info about the weapons carried by Il-38N? (torpedoes, anti-submarine missiles)
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:42 am

    Until 2020, it is planned to upgrade 28 aircraft to the level of IL-38N. In the future, machines of this type can be replaced by a new generation of patrol aircraft based on passenger aircraft Tu-204 and IL-114.

    so whats is the most preferable replacement?

    turboprop engine aircraft or Turbofan? or both??
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:36 pm

    Technically, a Turboprop engines are more efficient and much easier to maintain and handle harsher weathers (I do not know the logic behind it, but this is what I have heard from pilots and aircraft maintenance guys here in Canada).
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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:01 am

    Turboprops are more efficient at lower altitudes and lower speeds and would offer longer loiter times.
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    Post  George1 Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:18 pm

    i think replacement of old Tu-142 and Il-38 with Tu-204MP and Il-114MP should have started already
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:00 am

    The Bear and May can continue doing a good job for another 10-15 years... they both have the domestic version of Sea Dragon ASW suite and are very capable aircraft with relatively low operating costs.

    the only real issue AFAIK is with the Tu-142, which is probably a little too fast for the role and has some problems deploying the very low and extremely low frequency antenna for communicating with submerged submarines.

    It certainly makes sense to look at replacement designs but money could be spent on other things first.

    Of course development of an MPA version of the Tu-214 and the Il-114 or Il-112 would be excellent for the prospects of both aircraft internationally and domestically as extra production is always good for the bottom line.
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:38 pm

    In Zhukovsky, the third series modernized Ilyushin IL-38N under 2012 contract was photographed.
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    Post  Viktor Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:22 am

    Nice thumbsup

    The third Il-38N contract in 2012
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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:32 pm

    4th anti-submarine IL-38N, upgraded under the contract of 2012, providing for the modernization of five serial combat aircraft IL-38. The modernization included installation on the aircraft IL-38 of the new search and targeting system "Novella-P-38."

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1190071.html
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    Post  George1 Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:53 pm

    Pacific Fleet received the first modernized IL-38N
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:35 pm

    All the Tu-142 aircraft operated by Russian navy will be upgraded by 2020
    Russian Aviaton » Thursday April 16, 2015 19:29 MSK

    Over the next 4 or 5 years the fleet of long-range anti-submarine Tu-142 aircraft operated by Russian navy will be upgraded, RIA Novosti reports with reference to a source close to the aircraft industry. Today the navy operates over 20 Tu-142 aircraft.

    “The Tu-142’s avionics suite will be upgraded. The anti-submarine equipment, navigation and weapon control systems will also be upgraded,” the source said.
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    According to him, one of the key participants of the project is Zaslon Company (Former NTTs Leninets Plant), which already has experience in upgrading weapon control systems aimed at expanding an aircraft’s capabilities.

    In general three companies will be involved in this project: Beriev Aircraft Company, Radar-MMS and Zaslon.

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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:21 am

    Beriev A-40 Albatros is revived??

    A project for construction of water aerodrome in Kamchatka will cost 67 million rubles
    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday June 3, 2015 19:51 MSK

    FSUE Tsentralnoye proektnoye obyedineniye (stands for Central Project Association), part of the Spetsstroy of Russia, issued a tender for development of a project for construction of water aerodrome in Zavoiko settlement (Kamchatka Krai); 67,5 million rubles will be allocated for this project, the request was posted at the website to state procurement, RIA Novosti Nedvizhimost reports.

    “The parameters of A-40 “Albatros” (amphibian aircraft) are used for calculations at design stage,” said in the document.


    A main contractor must design the aerodrome having dimensions of 6х4,5 km and a depth of around 5 meters; the territory must be fitted with floating lights and special reference points. It also must have parking for four seaplanes, two seaplane ramps and a quay for staff boats.

    Moreover, the contractor will have to design drainage facilities, control center, asphalt-concrete site for ground support equipment and vehicles, parking for staff cars, hangars, warehouse, checkpoint and roads located inside the aerodrome’s territory.

    The applications must have been submitted until May 12th, RFP stage was completed on May 26th. The project must be implemented in 45 days after signing the contract.

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/6/3/3227/
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:38 pm

    George1 wrote:Beriev A-40 Albatros is revived??

    A project for construction of water aerodrome in Kamchatka will cost 67 million rubles
    Russian Aviaton » Wednesday June 3, 2015 19:51 MSK

    FSUE Tsentralnoye proektnoye obyedineniye (stands for Central Project Association), part of the Spetsstroy of Russia, issued a tender for development of a project for construction of water aerodrome in Zavoiko settlement (Kamchatka Krai); 67,5 million rubles will be allocated for this project, the request was posted at the website to state procurement, RIA Novosti Nedvizhimost reports.

    “The parameters of A-40 “Albatros” (amphibian aircraft) are used for calculations at design stage,” said in the document.


    A main contractor must design the aerodrome having dimensions of 6х4,5 km and a depth of around 5 meters; the territory must be fitted with floating lights and special reference points. It also must have parking for four seaplanes, two seaplane ramps and a quay for staff boats.

    Moreover, the contractor will have to design drainage facilities, control center, asphalt-concrete site for ground support equipment and vehicles, parking for staff cars, hangars, warehouse, checkpoint and roads located inside the aerodrome’s territory.

    The applications must have been submitted until May 12th, RFP stage was completed on May 26th. The project must be implemented in 45 days after signing the contract.

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/6/3/3227/

    I wonder if floating ekranoplanes can also to the job? but definitely revival of passenger airctraft and new Tu-204sand Il-114 is great idea to stimulate drop price per bird for civilian market.



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