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    BUK SAM system Thread

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:58 am

    The thing is that SAMs are not launched from behind the objects they are intercepting... they don't need higher speed to chase down their targets...

    Quite often the SAMs are the first targets of the objects they have to shoot down and the things around the SAMs that the SAMs are there to protect is their next targets... so effectively the SAM does not need to be massively faster than the targets it engages... though having said that high speed can be useful in getting to an intercept point on time to be able to do something about a threat.

    Effectively TOR is intended for both shooting down Hellfire missiles before they hit the TOR vehicle or the armoured vehicles the TOR system is protecting, and also the helicopter launching the Hellfire missiles... and Tunguska is pretty much for doing the same thing... it is no accident that TOR had a range of 12km and 2S6M1 has a range of 10km with missiles.

    The range of enemy ATGMs is increasing and Russian air defence vehicles are getting better to compensate... Spike extended long range with a range of 32km... Pantsir SM with a range of 40km.

    Pantsir SM uses a hypersonic solid rocket booster to accelerate the missile itself to extended distances so it can effectively glide or coast for 20-30km and then engage targets 40km away.... it will probably be lofted into the air and dive down on the target like a top attack missile...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:08 pm

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    Post  Isos on Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:28 pm

    Buk m3 is proposed for export : 65km against 2m2 rcs target. 20km against BM. Only 12km against hovering helicopters.

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/air-defence-systems/air-defense-systems-and-mounts/%22Viking%22%20%289K317ME%29/

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:45 am

    Regarding the helicopters, it probably has more to do with their altitude and blending in with the terrain around them by not moving...

    Ironically a hovering helicopter at low level is a difficult target for radar guided missiles, but a sitting duck for a 57mm gun...
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    Post  Isos on Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:15 am

    It has more to do with doppler effect that works only on moving object.

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