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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:53 pm



    So the UK now has the highest taxes since the 1950s. Throws a retarded tantrum because the US fails in Afghanistan, and sends a couple
    of patrol boats (not actual naval ships of significance) to the Pacific to counteract China.

    Looks like the commanders of the commanding heights have fallen off.

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:15 am



    Perfidious Albion has been spazzing about Nord Stream 2 for years. A routine claim is that it will increase Europe's
    dependence on Russian gas. As if the gas going through Banderastan is gas from another source. All that NS2 does
    is send the same gas via a different route without the transit fee markup.

    But the logic of the clowns in London is even more pathetic. The UK consumes 20 billion cubic meters of gas per year.
    And half of this comes from Gazprom. So the Perfidious Albion is already dependent on Russian gas and NS2 has nothing
    to do with this.

    Western Russia haters have something in common with rats and mice, they love poop on their own food.

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    Post  Hole Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:52 pm

    Comparing rats and mice to brits is an insult. For rats and mice. Very Happy

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    Post  PhSt Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:49 am

    So the WHO is acting under US orders to delay the approval for Russia's Sputnik V. This is another brazen campaign to smear Russia in front of the world and discourage countries from procuring Russia's own pharmaceutical products. Russia needs to act fast and impose a heavy cost on the US for this latest act of aggression.  angry


    New U.S. travel rules close door on those fully vaccinated with Russia’s Sputnik V

    The United States announced last week that it would soon open its doors to foreign travelers vaccinated against the coronavirus, loosening restrictions for broad swaths of global visitors for the first time since the pandemic began.

    But the new rules, set to take effect in November, appear to also shut out many people who consider themselves to be fully immunized — including millions who have received two doses of Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine.

    Hundreds of thousands of Russians could be directly affected. Despite frosty diplomatic relations and limited demand for international travel, roughly 300,000 Russians visited the United States in 2019, the last year for which figures are available, according to the U.S. Travel Association.

    More broadly, the U.S. plan is another blow for the manufacturers of Sputnik V, which Moscow has proudly proclaimed as the first coronavirus vaccine to be registered for use. Though the vaccine was intended to be a powerful tool of pandemic diplomacy, its limited acceptance abroad and slow rates of delivery have left it behind not only Western vaccines but also those made by Chinese manufacturers.

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    Post  kvs Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:48 am

    Russia needs to ban all visitors from the US, including diplomatic staff.   The mRNA GMO "vaccines" are not real vaccines anyway.  

    Americans think they are so precious that everyone will come crawling on their knees to their door to do their bidding.  Russia needs
    nothing from Americunts.   It is Americunts that badly need something from Russia.   This explains their obsession with Russia.
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    Post  kvs Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:14 am



    Czech Russia haters are doubling down on their retarded gas market policies designed to sabotage Gazprom. So the we have the Czech
    retard cited in the video calling for a gas war on Russia. This two neuron specimen thinks that gas comes from Biden's anus and that
    somehow Gazprom is stopping Biden's flatulence from reaching the precious EU-tard customers. This brainless twit thinks that putting
    pressure on Russia will lower the spot price for gas by following the exact same policies that destroyed long term affordable contract
    prices and allowed the spot market to dominate the EU-tard gas price.

    This chirping retard keeps repeating "our market, our rules". Well, f*cktard, "Gazprom's gas, Gazprom's choice of what to sell and to whom".
    Not good enough for you, then stick a tube up your ass and pump it.




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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:00 am

    What an opportunity for US gas sellers to sweep in and offer cheaper gas.

    The price of Russian gas is due to market forces... their costs to extract and pump gas have not changed... they are just enjoying massive profit margins because of the games the EU plays.

    This is the ideal opportunity for the US to come striding in and offer them super cheap Freedom gas and save them from the cold.... like an ally would.

    Or they could demand Russia ignore the market and just give them freebies or cheaper gas as a favour... presumably for all the hostile rhetoric and sanctions I guess...
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:35 pm

    GarryB wrote:What an opportunity for US gas sellers to sweep in and offer cheaper gas.

    The price of Russian gas is due to market forces... their costs to extract and pump gas have not changed... they are just enjoying massive profit margins because of the games the EU plays.

    This is the ideal opportunity for the US to come striding in and offer them super cheap Freedom gas and save them from the cold.... like an ally would.

    Or they could demand Russia ignore the market and just give them freebies or cheaper gas as a favour... presumably for all the hostile rhetoric and sanctions I guess...
    they were free to ask in the past a longer contract with fixed price (as other countries did). Since they wanted marked condition they get exactly what they asked.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:28 am

    Careful what you wish for I guess...

    I would be upset if they weren't so hostile to Russia and China, but the situation they are in is of their own doing.
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    Post  kvs Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:10 pm



    Excellent analysis centering on a recent Rand report bewailing Russia's "threat" to western interests.

    1) The US has been printing trillions of dollars which has induced global inflation including in oil prices and other resources.
    So Biden et al. are demanding that resource exporters increase their exports to drive down prices. This is cast as OPEC
    and Russia trying to gouge poor westerners out of their hard earned money. Same goes for the gas crisis in the EU which
    is the fault of both the EU-tards and their bosses in Washington but is attributed to nefarious Putin.

    2) While economists yap about markets, in the real world you have rackets. The west does not tolerate any competition
    in basically any economic sector. "Market" dynamics involves military action to coerce conformity to what the
    owners of production want. Russia is an "existential" threat because it actually provides real market competition.
    Of course, the primitive imperialism is sugar coated with "free market" fluff. Such as the EU's 3rd energy package
    which envisioned EU companies running Russia's oil and gas extraction and transport to the EU turning Russia into
    Nigeria with snow. Russia is demonized for daring to extract and deliver itself. Preventing precious EU oligarchs
    and their bosses in Washington from getting all the money.

    3) Russia is also a "threat" to the west because it defends its interests and counteracts western imperialism.
    Russia's intervention in Syria was not about grabbing its oil or merely propping up Assad. It prevented installation
    of Salafi regimes throughout the Middle East. Russia helped Egypt maintain secular sanity.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:06 pm

    As stated by Alex from Duran - Lavrov (and by extension, Russia as a whole) looks down on Europe as pathetic and rightly so. They loathe the European authorities.

    The main reason mostly is because they like to act like the US towards Russia, but are absolutely pathetic militarily and has no actual leverage over Russia but Russia does over them.

    They respect US because they see them as a real threat. And that is what makes Russians smart - they know the enemy may be weak and stupid, but still dangerous so they prepare themselves. US on other hand has now underestimated nearly every adversary to the point that they make mistake after mistake.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:12 am

    More importantly in a period of being the sole super power... a chance to make some changes and adjustments that simply are not possible when you are opposed and your actions countered to what ever extent... their actions intended to make things easier for themselves have only made them harder.

    Their invasions and wars in the ME and Africa have led to defeats and indeed a rise in power and respect for both Iran and Russia, that they could never have achieved or in the case of Russia even wanted to achieve, but trying to build gas lines from the ME to Europe via Turkey meant they had to dismember Iraq and Syria so they could build the pipelines... and they were happy to create ISIS by destroying Saddams power base and structure... ISIS didn't materialise from nowhere.... it is all the Iraqi generals and planners that were kicked out of office by the US invasion of Iraq... and in Iraq they were a problem but no considered a huge problem, while in Syria they were encouraged because they damaged Syria and threatened Iran as well.

    In the Ukraine their meddling led to Russia getting not just Sevastopol, but the entire Crimean peninsula back, and more importantly, while initially painful... the loss of the producer of their ships engines and helicopter engines and transport planes, they are working through their own substitutes which in general are at least as good or often a generation ahead of what was being sold to them. Not having to subsidise the Ukraine means that money can be invested in Russian companies and the Russian economy which is much better for Russia.

    Their actions have damaged the Russian economy in many areas, but that damage has led to investment and work and has led to growth and development to the point where they are doing better now than the entire Soviet Union was doing in terms of food production and other production areas... their new weapons are state of the art but their military spending is rather stable despite being involved in several conflicts.

    I honestly underestimated their progress and was rather worried when they went in to Syria, but have proven themselves to be a professional capable force with the right tactics and planning and equipment to get the job done.

    As an armed force they really transformed themselves in such a short period from 2008... which was clearly again America meddling... Kosovo declaring independence led to Georgia fearing South Ossetia might do the same in response and the dropping of the closed border policy from Russia because of Kosovos independence would have led to SO drifting away which forced the tie eaters hand... no doubt with US verbal support... so really the US is responsible for the Russian military to be the way it is today...

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    Post  kvs Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:40 pm



    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland. This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war? NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war. Poor victims of the Russian bear!

    Naturally Pooland is backing Estonia's move.

    Frelling lunatics.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:27 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland.   This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war?   NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war.   Poor victims of the Russian bear!

    Naturally Pooland is backing Estonia's move.

    Frelling lunatics.


    this is an obvious violation of international law and a completely legitimate incident of belli. Are the poor Balts so tired of their Western masters that they are in a hurry to return them to Russia again?
    😅

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    Post  andalusia Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:21 pm

    This article thinks Russia and Chinese militaries don't compare to US military; I want to know, do more informed people on this forum think it is true?




    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-china-still-t-compare-224900293.html
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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:21 pm

    andalusia wrote:This article thinks Russia and Chinese militaries don't compare to US military; I want to know, do more informed people on this forum think it is true?




    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-china-still-t-compare-224900293.html


    The performance of the US army during WWII, the Korean war and Vietnam left much to be desired. The Gulf War and the 2003 Iraq invasion
    were a turkey shoot and not a measure of US superiority. When faced with real push-back the US army does not perform well.

    The US landed on the European continent when the Nazis were in full retreat on the eastern front. The Nazis were transferring
    large caliber cannons from the pill boxes to the eastern front. The US was facing second rate German forces in the west who
    substantially surrendered before fighting to the death. The Germans expected to die if they became Soviet POWs but expected
    to have it relatively easy if they became US POWs.

    But ever since WWII a myth has developed that the US army is invincible and I have heard many people back in the 1980s claim that
    the US won WWII. The only war the US won was its war with Japan and that is only after dropping two nuclear bombs to mass murder
    Japanese civilians.

    The US performance in Afghanistan shows that it has no staying power. It is all flash in a pan. Lots of sturm and drang and then
    more fizzle. This fits the nature of the US culture and MIC. Big talk, lots of grift of government money and then propaganda about
    victory. To this day Americans claim that they lost in Vietnam because of domestic protests. What utter BS. They lost in Vietnam
    and hard. That is after dropping vast quantities of bombs and chemical agents that killed millions of Vietnamese civilians. The true
    face of the US shows up in its demented worship of air power as some magic bullet to win wars. This was true in Iraq as well.

    I would like to see where the US has "won" without unrestricted air attack to soften up the target. Russia has the most advanced
    anti-aircraft systems on the planet. PERIOD. The US was never ahead in this regard from the 1950s on. In fact, the Soviet
    investment in air defense was prompted by the US obsession with air power and reflects a distinct development path. We see this
    with the fact that Russia has deployed hypersonic regional/theater missile systems and the US does not even have supersonic missile
    systems. (ICBMs are another category). The B-2 bomber demonstrates how detached from reality the US war machine is. They
    think that they will fly over Russia to drop bombs. Seriously. The US has no chance to soften up Russia like Iraq with bombs. They
    can't even do this with standoff missiles. Russia is something the US has never faced before and is clearly not laid out to handle.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:36 pm

    And it is worth adding that even if we consider a war in the Pacific, there is one thing obvious to anyone who ever studied the subject.
    Japan was a second-rate enemy for the European standards, or we can consider them even a 3rd grade, as the Reich allies were 2nd rate.
    That does not apply to the individual soldiers, who were brave, resistant, and fought till the end, but to the general strategy, squad training etc.
    The myth created by the Hollywood presents them as super soldiers, charging with samurai swords in banzai attacks.
    The truth is, that this behavior was an act of desperation, in a face of total technical overwhelming.
    There was a very interesting Russian military archeology expedition to the Kurils, and an extremely interesting conclusions.
    First, they found the Japanese army artefacts extremely rare, and in extremely severe conditions.
    Why ? Well, because facing a lack of functionally any strategic resources, the quality of that equipment was extreamly low. For example the helmets turns out to be made of iron, as they lacked steel. Military vehicles were made with wooden frames, that did not survive to this day, and made them much less resilient back then.
    Japanese strongpoints and bunqers were made of ... wood.
    As long as they occupied Indochina, they have access to a species called "ironwood", extreamly hard. This was used for fortifications, still, even that "iron" wood was not even close to the concrete fortifications made by the Germans, or in Europe in general.
    And as they lost the land relatively early in the war, they didn't have access even to that material, making the fortifications of the regular wood&dirt.
    This Is "the mighty Japan Imperial Army" in it's real shape.
    And Soviets proved that several times, starting from 1936, and ending in Mongolia in 1945 ...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:36 pm

    andalusia wrote:This article thinks Russia and Chinese militaries don't compare to US military; I want to know, do more informed people on this forum think it is true?

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-china-still-t-compare-224900293.html

    Kyle Mizokami?? Suspect

    Don't make me fucking laugh... This article is a nonsensical POS, and is written solely to appeal to murkan flag-wavers who are utterly depressed that the "sole Superpower" ( Laughing ) spent 20 years and trillions of fiat dollars trying to impose their will in Afghanistan, but proved incapable of defeating a rat-tag army of a few tens of thousands of poorly armed tribal irregulars who lacked a powerful sponsor, had no air force, no tanks or artillery, and lacked any significant nation-wide real-time C3 capabilities. Considering their utter and total failure, these murkan fuckwitz still think they have a more powerful military that Russia and China combined? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Mizokami has no clue regarding reality. He's an idiot schmuck who gets paid to write stupid shit for stupid gullible idiots...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:49 pm

    kvs wrote:Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland.   This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    Please.  Go ahead.  I'd like nothing more than for Estonia to commit national suicide by fucking with Russian access to the Baltic. Let Estonia fire the first shot. Russia should simply  take the hit, launch full a media campaign to let the Russian people know exactly what has happened.  Raise hell diplomatically and let the Estonians and their NATO pimps know a response is coming.  Give them 24 hrs to sweat and for the rest of the world to find out what is happening and why (ie make sure Russia gets her message out before the SHTF) and then blitzkrieg those Nazi bastards with everything available. Reduce their military and government buildings to rubble, and then.... do absolutely nothing.  Make it clear that Estonia is not worth pissing on, and that Russia has zero territorial aspirations against them whatsoever.  

    If Estonia does anything so stupid, Russia should jump at the chance to demonstrate to those dumb NATO twats how a real nation defends its interests and responds to aggression from arrogant pissant fake states... Twisted Evil

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    Post  franco Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:16 pm

    andalusia wrote:This article thinks Russia and Chinese militaries don't compare to US military; I want to know, do more informed people on this forum think it is true?




    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-china-still-t-compare-224900293.html

    First thing is the Rand group is an American think tank primarily funded by the US military.
    Secondly it depends on the location. Definitely a home field advantage for all 3 in any military exchange. Twenty years ago the Americans had a chance to win any localized battles. Not anymore...
    Thirdly total war destroys all.

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    Post  franco Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:21 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland.   This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war?   NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war.  

    It would be an act of war, just typical trash talk from the Nazi lovers IMO. Very few NATO countries would consider it an Article 5 for an appropriate (post #519 above) military response!

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    Post  Arrow Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:29 pm

    It is worth considering whether the USA is still the largest military force in the world? scratch

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:26 pm

    Arrow wrote:It is worth considering whether the USA is still the largest military force in the world? scratch

    Large is true but the potential is not a linear scaling of the different army sizes. The USA has a lot of carrier groups.
    Russia has none. This makes f*ck all difference for any US attack on Russia. The USA wouldn't even be able to park
    these groups anywhere near Russia's coasts. Thus, they have zero value. Maybe they can engage the Russian navy
    somewhere. But that is neither here nor there.

    The amount of meat that the USA and its NATzO proxies can field is not relevant either. US dick strokers routinely dismiss
    China's soldier figures. The same applies to them and NATzO.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:21 pm

    This article thinks Russia and Chinese militaries don't compare to US military; I want to know, do more informed people on this forum think it is true?

    The US military is a global military with bases and locations all over the planet, but they have very little experience facing peer enemies... they fought German forces in Africa but didn't fight them in France till they had already been beaten.

    Japan was very powerful compared with the countries in the Pacific they were fighting but as shown in Mongolia in 39 and China in 45 they were not the power with advantages and capabilities over its enemies it was in 05.

    Today the US military is powerful but it is directed by idiots that get it involved in wars that have nothing to do with defending the US, and everything to do with ensuring cheap oil supply or access to lithium sources or other reasons that ensure the 1% get richer...

    China is building new very capable aircraft and ships, but probably lacks direct combat experience, Russia is building... much slower... new ships and subs that are better in quality but lack the volume of the Chinese or US sides but they have experience in recent combat to ensure their new weapons are probably more practical and better than the US equivalents.

    Most of the conflicts the Russians have experienced recently have been because the enemy has been paid for or emboldened by direct or indirect western support.

    Russian air defence is second to none and is being improved all the time by western supported terrorists using drones and other difficult targets.

    The US has lots of large carrier groups to patrol the worlds oceans and keep its interests protected... Russia and China don't need to match the US in the number or size of those carrier groups because hypersonic missiles will be destroying US carrier groups rather than air power or ships or carriers.

    For the US a carrier is a strike carrier and the ships are there to protect the carriers.

    For Russia the ships are there to get the job done while the carrier is there to protect the ships and subs.

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