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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic 03/10/21, 03:35 pm

    GarryB wrote:What an opportunity for US gas sellers to sweep in and offer cheaper gas.

    The price of Russian gas is due to market forces... their costs to extract and pump gas have not changed... they are just enjoying massive profit margins because of the games the EU plays.

    This is the ideal opportunity for the US to come striding in and offer them super cheap Freedom gas and save them from the cold.... like an ally would.

    Or they could demand Russia ignore the market and just give them freebies or cheaper gas as a favour... presumably for all the hostile rhetoric and sanctions I guess...
    they were free to ask in the past a longer contract with fixed price (as other countries did). Since they wanted marked condition they get exactly what they asked.

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    Post  GarryB 04/10/21, 08:28 am

    Careful what you wish for I guess...

    I would be upset if they weren't so hostile to Russia and China, but the situation they are in is of their own doing.
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    Post  kvs 14/10/21, 05:10 pm



    Excellent analysis centering on a recent Rand report bewailing Russia's "threat" to western interests.

    1) The US has been printing trillions of dollars which has induced global inflation including in oil prices and other resources.
    So Biden et al. are demanding that resource exporters increase their exports to drive down prices. This is cast as OPEC
    and Russia trying to gouge poor westerners out of their hard earned money. Same goes for the gas crisis in the EU which
    is the fault of both the EU-tards and their bosses in Washington but is attributed to nefarious Putin.

    2) While economists yap about markets, in the real world you have rackets. The west does not tolerate any competition
    in basically any economic sector. "Market" dynamics involves military action to coerce conformity to what the
    owners of production want. Russia is an "existential" threat because it actually provides real market competition.
    Of course, the primitive imperialism is sugar coated with "free market" fluff. Such as the EU's 3rd energy package
    which envisioned EU companies running Russia's oil and gas extraction and transport to the EU turning Russia into
    Nigeria with snow. Russia is demonized for daring to extract and deliver itself. Preventing precious EU oligarchs
    and their bosses in Washington from getting all the money.

    3) Russia is also a "threat" to the west because it defends its interests and counteracts western imperialism.
    Russia's intervention in Syria was not about grabbing its oil or merely propping up Assad. It prevented installation
    of Salafi regimes throughout the Middle East. Russia helped Egypt maintain secular sanity.

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    Post  miketheterrible 14/10/21, 08:06 pm

    As stated by Alex from Duran - Lavrov (and by extension, Russia as a whole) looks down on Europe as pathetic and rightly so. They loathe the European authorities.

    The main reason mostly is because they like to act like the US towards Russia, but are absolutely pathetic militarily and has no actual leverage over Russia but Russia does over them.

    They respect US because they see them as a real threat. And that is what makes Russians smart - they know the enemy may be weak and stupid, but still dangerous so they prepare themselves. US on other hand has now underestimated nearly every adversary to the point that they make mistake after mistake.

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    Post  GarryB 15/10/21, 08:12 am

    More importantly in a period of being the sole super power... a chance to make some changes and adjustments that simply are not possible when you are opposed and your actions countered to what ever extent... their actions intended to make things easier for themselves have only made them harder.

    Their invasions and wars in the ME and Africa have led to defeats and indeed a rise in power and respect for both Iran and Russia, that they could never have achieved or in the case of Russia even wanted to achieve, but trying to build gas lines from the ME to Europe via Turkey meant they had to dismember Iraq and Syria so they could build the pipelines... and they were happy to create ISIS by destroying Saddams power base and structure... ISIS didn't materialise from nowhere.... it is all the Iraqi generals and planners that were kicked out of office by the US invasion of Iraq... and in Iraq they were a problem but no considered a huge problem, while in Syria they were encouraged because they damaged Syria and threatened Iran as well.

    In the Ukraine their meddling led to Russia getting not just Sevastopol, but the entire Crimean peninsula back, and more importantly, while initially painful... the loss of the producer of their ships engines and helicopter engines and transport planes, they are working through their own substitutes which in general are at least as good or often a generation ahead of what was being sold to them. Not having to subsidise the Ukraine means that money can be invested in Russian companies and the Russian economy which is much better for Russia.

    Their actions have damaged the Russian economy in many areas, but that damage has led to investment and work and has led to growth and development to the point where they are doing better now than the entire Soviet Union was doing in terms of food production and other production areas... their new weapons are state of the art but their military spending is rather stable despite being involved in several conflicts.

    I honestly underestimated their progress and was rather worried when they went in to Syria, but have proven themselves to be a professional capable force with the right tactics and planning and equipment to get the job done.

    As an armed force they really transformed themselves in such a short period from 2008... which was clearly again America meddling... Kosovo declaring independence led to Georgia fearing South Ossetia might do the same in response and the dropping of the closed border policy from Russia because of Kosovos independence would have led to SO drifting away which forced the tie eaters hand... no doubt with US verbal support... so really the US is responsible for the Russian military to be the way it is today...

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    Post  kvs 18/10/21, 05:40 pm



    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland. This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war? NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war. Poor victims of the Russian bear!

    Naturally Pooland is backing Estonia's move.

    Frelling lunatics.

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    Post  Scorpius 18/10/21, 09:27 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland.   This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war?   NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war.   Poor victims of the Russian bear!

    Naturally Pooland is backing Estonia's move.

    Frelling lunatics.


    this is an obvious violation of international law and a completely legitimate incident of belli. Are the poor Balts so tired of their Western masters that they are in a hurry to return them to Russia again?
    😅

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    Post  miketheterrible 20/10/21, 06:19 pm

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    Post  franco 20/10/21, 07:21 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Estonia has threatened to block Russian shipping through the Gulf of Finland.   This includes all civilian and military vessels.

    How is this not an act of war?   NATzO bleats about Russia being a threat to Estonia and other chihuahua statelets but then
    has them baiting Russia with acts of war.  

    It would be an act of war, just typical trash talk from the Nazi lovers IMO. Very few NATO countries would consider it an Article 5 for an appropriate (post #519 above) military response!

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    Post  kvs 01/11/21, 06:08 pm



    Yanqui retards are wanking themselves silly again. lol1 clown

    They are talking of taking out the Russian Baltic fleet with a couple of B-1b bombers laden with 24 LRASM missiles
    each. The same scenario is planned for the Black Sea fleet and the yanquis are already training for this.

    Step back, take a deep breath and marvel at the inanity.

    The theme of yanquis putting all their faith in air power comes up often. Here we see just how pathological it is.

    The LRASM has a range of 480 km and a "self guiding" warhead. Yeah, more like another GPS wonder-waffle.

    The key points:

    1) The US is spooging itself with dreams of a sneak attack on Russia

    2) The US expects most of its missiles to hit their targets as if Russia has no anti-missile and EW capability

    3) The US expects the 5th column in Russia to be effective

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    Post  miketheterrible 01/11/21, 06:16 pm

    It is so stupid, it isn't worth even talking about.

    What is funny is their bond villain like mentality - tell everyone what your plans are. I imagine those in Russian MOD are having a good chuckle.

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    Post  George1 09/11/21, 06:20 pm

    US setting up multinational group of forces close to Russian border — top brass

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    Post  kvs 11/11/21, 03:06 am



    We had clowns coming to this forum ragging on Russia for not fighting Armenia's war with Azerbaijan when Pussynyan refused
    to fight it himself. Here we see the value of Armenia as "allies". Armenian nazionalists have staged a Nazi type torchlight
    procession and pissed on Russia. These specimens are the exact copies of the Georgian nazionalists.

    Russia should not spend a single particle of treasure or drop of blood for these backstabbers. Let them realize their
    precious nazionalism by crawling up Uncle Swineshit's ass.

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    Post  PhSt 23/11/21, 01:51 am

    How is this even possible without violation of the montreux convention? Blocking Russian ships through the Bosphorus is a declaration of war.



    USA asks Turkey to ban Russian warships from passing through Bosphorus

    The United States and Turkey are discussing a possibility to block the Bosphorus for Russian warships. If Turkey agrees, the United States promises to deliver regions in northern Syria under the control of the Turkish army.

    https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/149693-russia_invasion_ukraine/



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    Post  kvs 23/11/21, 02:30 am

    I get the impression that there is a concerted effort to start WWIII. We have Ukria, Turkey, Taiwan, Transniester, and likely other hot spots ready
    to be ignited. The recent effort to "delegitimize" the elections in Nicaragua also appear to be some push to set a new geopolitical climate.

    Things are going south for NATzO and war is seen as the solution to their problems. It is both a tipping of the chess board and a way
    to get more economic gain. Or so they think.

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    Post  ALAMO 23/11/21, 02:48 am

    kvs wrote:I get the impression that there is a concerted effort to start WWIII.   We have Ukria, Turkey, Taiwan, Transniester, and likely other hot spots ready
    to be ignited.  The recent effort to "delegitimize" the elections in Nicaragua also appear to be some push to set a new geopolitical climate.  
    Things are going south for NATzO and war is seen as the solution to their problems.   It is both a tipping of the chess board and a way
    to get more economic gain.   Or so they think.

    Yes they do.
    They know things that should be obvious for any sane observer.
    West is getting weaker and weaker.
    Russia is getting stronger and stronger.
    China is getting stronger and stronger.
    The non-Anglosaxon world emerged, and develops.
    US is fighting EU quite openly, and vice versa, for a decade.
    And opposit.
    Russia is getting closer to China, and vice versa, for a decade.
    Draw lines linking the points.
    That is why a warmongering some of you masturbate, is terrifying.
    You just follow the agenda, thinking that you are against it.
    The only way to sustain the Anglosaxon oriented world, it to have a war NOW. Because they won't win it tomorrow.
    Still highly doubt if they can win it now, but maybe they know more than we do.
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    Post  GarryB 23/11/21, 11:35 am

    How is this even possible without violation of the montreux convention? Blocking Russian ships through the Bosphorus is a declaration of war.

    The key factor there is asked.

    Bear in mind they also asked the Turks not to buy S-400s too...
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    Post  Arrow 23/11/21, 02:12 pm

    kvs wrote:I get the impression that there is a concerted effort to start WWIII.  

    Things are going south for NATzO and war is seen as the solution to their problems.   It is both a tipping of the chess board and a way
    to get more economic gain.   Or so they think.


    The West is unable to win World War III.  Especially in times of nuclear weapons.  There are no winners in this war.  They will not win the war with Russia and China.  It does not make sense.  Russia has the most modern nuclear arsenal in the world and China is also strongly modernizing its own. The US nuclear arsenal is in deteriorating condition and Russia is developing its ABM systems faster and faster.  I think global war is very unlikely right now. They can only try to cause some local wars on the border with Russia and China, but this will not destabilize these countries


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    Post  ALAMO 23/11/21, 02:19 pm

    Sure, but they can fight a WWIII in different spots of a planet, using proxies.
    And this is what they are doing for years now.
    An Russian-Ukrainian war is just a perfect solution for them. It will weaken Russia as hell, and cover both moral&physical bankruptcy of the regime change operation.
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    Post  PhSt 23/11/21, 09:11 pm



    US testing ability to drop nukes on Russia – Moscow

    American nuclear-capable bombers have flown dozens of sorties across Eastern Europe in the past few weeks as part of drills designed to probe Russian readiness in case of an atomic war, Russia's defense minister has claimed.
    Speaking after a meeting his Chinese counterpart, Wei Fenghe, in Moscow on Tuesday, Sergey Shoigu said that there has been “a significant intensification of activity from US strategic bomber aviation near the borders of Russia.”

    According to him, “over the past month, around 30 missions have been flown near the borders of the Russian federation, around two and a half times more than in the same time period last year.”

    Shoigu added that recent American exercises, codenamed Global Thunder, saw “ten strategic bombers practicing their ability to use nuclear weapons against Russia at almost the same time from the west and the east. The minimum distance from our border was 20km.”

    At the same time, the Russian Armed Forces chief said that the relationship between his country and China was becoming increasingly important “during a time when geopolitical turbulence and the risk of conflict are growing.”

    The minister’s comments come amid growing tensions with NATO over Ukraine, with Kiev claiming that a buildup of Russian troops across the shared frontier could be a precursor to an invasion.

    Moscow denies that it is planning such an offensive, insisting that “the movement of some of our military equipment or army units across the territory of the Russian Federation is exclusively our business.”

    On Monday, the country’s top foreign intelligence agency, the SVR, issued a statement accusing the US of orchestrating a disinformation campaign playing up the risk of conflict.

    In a statement, officials said that it was painting “a terrible picture of how hordes of Russian tanks will start crushing Ukrainian cities,” and that Washington is using diplomatic channels to “share with its allies and partners absolutely false information about the concentration of forces on our territory in advance of a military invasion of Ukraine.”

    Both Russia and NATO have accused each other of stepping up warplane flights close to the border, and last year Moscow blasted a “provocative” move from Washington to dispatch American B-1B nuclear bombers into Ukrainian airspace for the first time in history. Russian fighter jets and anti-air rockets were scrambled in response.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/541089-us-testing-ability-nuclear-attack-moscow/

    I hope Russia does the same bombing simulation 20 kms from continental America's borders just to see the yanks froth at the mouth and throw a hysterical fit lol

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    Post  kvs 23/11/21, 09:38 pm

    Ameritards are delusional. They actually think that they will stage bombing runs and not standoff missile firing of nukes over Russia.
    This inanity as been going on for decades and in 2006 The Diplomat magazine was spooging itself with talk about "stealthy" B-2
    bombing runs preemptively nuking Russia. These retards think Russia has no defence capacity.

    When the SHTF, then these stupid bombing runs will not even reach Russia's borders. The only possible thing that the yanquis
    can hope for is coordinated sabotage inside Russia. I will not dismiss the potential since there are a lot of maggots in Russia
    who can be switched on at the right moment. But I think the boat has sailed for them to actually achieve any success. Maybe
    20 years ago they could have, but not today.

    The problem is that the yanquis are own Koolaid drinkers. They have dropped the intelligence ball and are operating on pure
    delusion. This makes them extremely dangerous as they lack the ability to process signals that should temper their ambitions.
    Russia should not restrain itself in any fashion once NATzO attacks. It should be full bore MAD and no mercy. Tens of millions
    of Russians will die, but more would die if Russia tried to act as if its enemies are rational. They are insane and desperate.
    They should feel the full consequence for their insanity.

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    Post  GarryB 24/11/21, 10:09 am

    I hope Russia does the same bombing simulation 20 kms from continental America's borders just to see the yanks froth at the mouth and throw a hysterical fit lol

    The US is in trouble... its current financial situation is not something they can get out of by reducing taxes and spending more on their military... they are going to come to the realisation that defence spending cuts and austerity programmes are going to have to be put in place, which kinda conflicts with their need to spend big money on their crumbling infrastructure which has been neglected for decades already.

    Things are looking especially grim but for Russia, with a reasonable spend on their military they have brought it up to and beyond world standard in many areas and are producing revolutionary equipment and systems and are in the process of putting them into service without overspending their budget that includes putting money aside for a rainy day and developing the economy and building infrastructure.

    Russia has built more new roads than it has ever had in its past and new rail lines and airfields are improving transport links across a huge country.

    They are producing their own food and energy, and in most regards seem to be doing rather well.

    The US might consider suicide as a sensible option, but Russia has no reason to join them.
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    Post  Arrow 24/11/21, 02:31 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    An Russian-Ukrainian war is just a perfect solution for them. It will weaken Russia as hell, and cover both moral&physical bankruptcy of the regime change operation.

    I think that if Ukraine attacks Donbas, it will not weaken Russia. Russia has been preparing for such a scenario for several years. It gathered great forces in the region of Ukraine. In the event of an attack, they will quickly intervene using all available means within the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts only. I believe that the Ukrainian army will collapse quite quickly and there will be a repeat of 08/08/08 in Georgia. The West will accuse Russia of attacking Ukraine again. They will think up more sanctions, but what else they can think of. They have fewer and fewer tools to weaken Russia
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    Post  flamming_python 25/11/21, 01:00 am

    PhSt wrote:How is this even possible without violation of the montreux convention? Blocking Russian ships through the Bosphorus is a declaration of war.



    USA asks Turkey to ban Russian warships from passing through Bosphorus

    The United States and Turkey are discussing a possibility to block the Bosphorus for Russian warships. If Turkey agrees, the United States promises to deliver regions in northern Syria under the control of the Turkish army.

    https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/149693-russia_invasion_ukraine/




    I really wouldn't put any stock into Pravda. They throw all kinds of shit on the wall and see what sticks, then do some more of that one.

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    Post  ALAMO 25/11/21, 01:04 am

    It is a tabloid.
    You can quote Daily Mirror.
    Next by an article about a dog that has three heads.

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