Regular wrote:To be proud of Your race is beyond stupid to me. How empty You have to be to take pride in what You had no contribution?
I'm soft nationalist, but I can't comprehend such hollow pride.
So you're proud for a geopolitical territory, some lines on a map, a piece of paper that reads "PASSPORT OF NATION XYZ" but you're not proud about a tribe?
My ancestors subdued Gaul and all of the lands adjoining the Mediterranean, my other ancestors were part of bringing down that once mighty empire, overrunning the frontiers and finally sacking the city of Rome itself.
Why should I have pride in a political entity or a bunch of lines on a map? Nations can change, but blood is forever.
Nationalism of a civic/government/political sort is empty and meaningless.
BTRFan can you please elaborate - what are these ancestors of yours exactly?
Who are these all-encompassing, engmatic people of yours?
They subdued Gaul?
Are you a Roman?
Brought down that empire? Sacked Rome?
So are you a Hun?
We can discuss the merits of ancestry, the ability of tracing ancestry, well-mapped geneology, guess work to cover periods of gaps in the 1200s-1600s, etc, I'll talk with you about it, you're civil enough. My family ancestry has been traced back about 400 years, no small matter, much beyond that will be difficult due to what happened in the German States with the Thirty Years War, 30-80% of the population dying in some of the German States, total devastation, records lost or destroyed. I have no reason to believe that my ancestors were migrants to the Alps, people didn't move around much back then and I believe it is likely that my ancestors in the 1200s were on the same land that my ancestors in the 1500s and 1600s were on, mainly the Alps of Italy, Germany, and Switzerland.
On that note, I had to put Department of Defense and TR1 on my ignore list, the first two to make the list. There was nothing to be gained by further conversing/posting/discussing with them except further aggravation of the moderators/admins, and I think they don't much appreciate racialist discussions, so in appreciation of the latitude they've given me I felt it was best to keep flame potential to a minimum and thus it made sense to block those two and let them hurl insults until they turn blue.
It should go without saying I won't be responding to a single thing from TR1 or Dpt of Defense.