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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:28 pm

    But they should not be pushed through media and society to be "men without penis"..
    they can get a strapon with artificial penis to satisfy their female partner. That's 2 females denied to 2 males, resulting in 4 unborn kids needed to keep the #s even.
    It's a bad substitute in all respects, but they don't realize that!
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:30 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Japan called, they said it ain't been working for past half a century and ongoing

    Japan was doing fine up until the end of the war, where the U.S forced them to give Women equal rights, after that, all was lost.


    You seem to have your panties in a bunch over white Russian nation. Why is that?

    You ain't Russian and Russians ain't white anyway as history has demonstrated.

    So tell me Daniel Boone, why are you wasting your time here on Russian forum ranting about fertility? Shouldn't you be on some white forum like American, British, Swedish, German or forum for some honorary whites like Lithuanians, Romanians or Ukrainians?

    Having more Russians in Russia will not solve your white extinction problem, it will only exacerbate it.

    And Russians are doing fine for for themselves, it's those good old white whores of Europe and their American offshoots that are going down the shitter (and good riddance to bad trash)

    You guys can't seem to get it through your damn skulls that no matter how much you struggle with your equal rights and welfare loving delusions, the goddamn center will not hold.

    Fertility and demographics determines your damn fate, and the only proven way to keep things in line is to put the Women down, is it unfair, is it immoral by today's moral standards, Yess.
    But you don't have a choice, unless you like the embrace of oblivion.

    Russia seems to at least has some grasp on this, their recent Domestic violence reforms show that they do have an inkling of what's really going on.
    So their is hope for them yet.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:12 pm

    Another way is to reduce the # of abortions, improve sex/health/nutrition education, propagandize, support & invest in traditional Asian health maintenance methods/medicine, & get rid of the anachronistic Christian idea of separation of mind & body.
    It's not coincidental that E & S. Asians never had under population problems, despite all the epidemics, disasters & wars.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:50 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:You guys can't seem to get it through your damn skulls that no matter how much you struggle with your equal rights and welfare loving delusions, the goddamn center will not hold.


    What center? Who's center?

    You are on a Russian forum ranting about demographics. Russian demographics are doing fine and definitely better than most.

    Are you concerned about something else then? What would that be?

    Is it ''white race''? If yes then you are in the wrong place to whine about it. Russians ain't white. Neither is rest of East Europe bar some exceptions which have been given honorary white man status but still not what you are hoping to salvage.

    It's Germans, French, Swedes, Danes, British, Dutch, Americans and others who you should be whining to.

    Russians and plenty of other nations have everything to gain from white extinction in the West because 99% of all their problems came from those same whites carrying with their ''White Man's burden''.

    No White Man = no problem




    AlfaT8 wrote:Fertility and demographics determines your damn fate.

    And there will always be plenty of fertility on this world.

    If you are just a kind hearted altruist worried about future of human species rest peacefully then because human species will endure, there are plenty of babies being born to secure future of mankind.


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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:You guys can't seem to get it through your damn skulls that no matter how much you struggle with your equal rights and welfare loving delusions, the goddamn center will not hold.


    What center? Who's center?

    You are on a Russian forum ranting about demographics. Russian demographics are doing fine and definitely better than most.

    Are you concerned about something else then? What would that be?

    Is it ''white race''? If yes then you are in the wrong place to whine about it. Russians ain't white. Neither is rest of East Europe bar some exceptions which have been given honorary white man status but still not what you are hoping to salvage.  

    It's Germans, French, Swedes, Danes, British, Dutch, Americans and others who you should be whining to.

    Russians and plenty of other nations have everything to gain from white extinction in the West because 99% of all their problems came from those same whites carrying with their ''White Man's burden''.

    No White Man = no problem




    AlfaT8 wrote:Fertility and demographics determines your damn fate.

    And there will always be plenty of fertility on this world.

    If you are just a kind hearted altruist worried about future of human species rest peacefully then because human species will endure, there are plenty of babies being born to secure future of mankind.


    hey Papadragon, and where do you put italians and greeks in your list? First slaves of their north Atlantic white masters?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:14 am

    Russia's fertility burned to the goddamn ground when Lenin rose and freed the Women, that is categorical evidence of what happens when the Women is freed.

    Really... so what you are saying is that the worst possible thing that could have happened to Russia happened in 1920 so for 100 years Russia has been collapsing in on itself... while at the same time fought and won a world war and then fought a cold war with the rich and powerful west... you are proving my point that you don't have a point.

    If womens rights destroys society then Russian society should be dead... it has had 100 years to die yet it has actually grown and been beaten back by various external threats and grown back stronger to counter that external threat.

    The West simply took a slower route, but the end results are the same.
    Which is fertility decline and now stagnation.

    Bullshit. There was a period during the 1990s when economics in Russia were a rollercoaster ride with more plunges than the best rides anywhere... not a great time to have kids.... and now, 20 years later there will be an impact because the fewer people born in the 1990s means fewer 20-30 year olds are around at the moment and your 20s and 30s is the best time to have kids...

    We are not going to understand the real effect for some time, but the best thing we can do is not enslave women and force them to have children, but to create an economic and political environment that is safe and stable for people to want to have families.

    Nope, wherever women were freed whether it be Greece, Iran or Mongolia, the fertility soon fell, this is the trend i see constantly.

    Yeah, and also child mortality went down and life expectancy went up so it is just as bloody well fertility went down because otherwise the problem would be over population.

    The problems of low fertility can be easily solved... semen banks can be used to fertilise single women to boost the population fairly rapidly, though of course that would introduce the issue of natural sex becoming problematic... how do you know the person you are in a relationship is not related to you?


    Shit and otherwise, isn't gonna turn into a person, are you listening to yourself?

    Depends what you are eating doesn't it?

    Why do you welfare types always put water and electricity on these lists, they have nothing to do with welfare and taxes, they are a service we voluntarily pay for, the government isn't gonna beat down my door for not paying for those.

    What country do you come from? Here in New Zealand electricity is not paid for by tax. In large cities like Auckland you pay for water coming in to the home and also for waste water going out. It does not come to taxes in either case.

    And roads or footpaths, look like you ran out of ideas.

    Do you think a modern society can function without footpaths or roads?

    Do you build and maintain the footpaths and roads outside your house and place of business yourself?

    Good, don't subsidize stupid behavior.
    Or you will have more of it.

    So someone choosing to have an abortion should not get support or help... so if they can't afford it and kill themselves and their child trying some stupid old wives remedy to abort a pregnancy you will laugh and think justice is served. But then some 15 year old girl should know better right... I am sure you are perfect and have never made any fucking mistakes.


    Women in general are pretty Risk averse, so the more consequences, the less likely they will try it.

    Of course... 15 year old girls with their hormones all over the place are known for their rational decision making... that is why teenage pregnancies don't exist... and boys always wear condoms when having sex... I am sure you wear two just to be safe right?


    When the State subsidizes something like abortions they make the situation worst, that's all i have been saying.

    Yeah of course... I hear it all the time in schools... lets fuck baby... if you get pregnant you can always get a free abortion paid for by the government...


    Really? Most girls are too ashamed to tell anyone till it is too late... the state gives drug alternatives to drug addicts... is that encouraging drug use too?

    Hell the current US opioid epidemic is legal prescribed drugs that are killing people and you think abortions are the problem.

    BTW, fathers hardly ever have a say in these matters, that's patriarchal, and the West has very little of that.

    So the solution is to not have abortions or make them hard to get... I can understand them not wanting male input if that is what you have to say.

       
    No it isn't, they wont have many kids, so the welfare state that depends on those kids will falter.
    Welfare -> Fertility decline -> Welfare collapse or Mass immigration.

    Again... you don't know what you are talking about... normally in a welfare state the payments stop when the children reach a certain age, which has the direct effect that when their kid reaches that age they tend to have another one... the age is usually 12-14 or so years old... after the kid turns 5 they are off to school so the mother is often required to find part time work between the hours of 9 and 3... so often they will actually have kids every 5 years so they don't have to get any job at all...

    Now to be clear the system can be abused, but there are also a lot of genuine cases where the assistance of welfare means the child was not aborted or the mother didn't do something like putting the child up for adoption or extreme and irrational like matricide/suicide.

    It is a very complex subject and your simple solutions show you really don't know much about what you are talking about.

    Yea that's the idea, when life becomes hard for them they will seek a Man to relieve them of their problems, they could also go to their Families, this is the trend where i live.

    So instead of funding abortions you want family refuges to be funded for beaten women who have married for financial security only to find the guy is a dick and is violent, or she picks a man who is a loser or molests their kids... yeah of course a mummy and a daddy make everything better even if they hate each other and fight all the time...  You must live up to the christian ideal whether it works or not... how many murder cases do the neighbours say they seemed like a happy family... people will naturally put on a public facade, but in private can be totally different... all people are like that.

    But so long as the State isn't doing the supporting, this problem wont explode and become the norm.

    WHAT PROBLEM... are you talking about abortions killing unborn children or are you talking about women not getting married and having lots of children to maintain the welfare income they get... because they are the opposite problem... one will reduce the population slightly and the other increases the population.

    Either way you are ignoring the real bad guy here... the male that doesn't use a condom and is fucking everything that moves... where is the punishment for him, why isn't he being held accountable?

    It's a well known statistic at this point, believe it or not, this is how it is.

    If it is such a well known statistic then please fill me in on the details... where was the sample taken and which population does it relate to... and indeed when was it taken... statistics change from time to time and location to location... or is this some magic fucking statistic that applies everywhere and any time?

    Your crime rate looks pretty suspicious, peeked in the 80s to 2000s, i wonder what happened, i can't find those single mother numbers for NZ, pity.

    I can tell you that being a single unmarried mother was shameful in the 80s and before... these days it is not.

    Don't expect things to actually make sense... prostitution is perfectly legal in New Zealand, yet there are still rapes... you would think making prostitution legal would eliminate rape as a problem.... but the real world doesn't work like that.

    Just like you can't force a woman financially to trap a man for his income potential... or indeed a woman for the same reasons in a lesbian relationship, you also can't get some men to stop raping women... tell them they can pay for it if they want it and they will say they don't want that woman... they want this one...


    Yea, the older generation is gonna be really screwed when the Welfare state finally falls, should have had kids or more kids, but oh well.

    Just take up sky diving and when the money runs out just don't pull the cord... it is going to be much worse for the kids who have their whole lives ahead of them in such an environment.

    The biggest threat to welfare states is big business bending the ear of right wing politicians trying to get that funding and money diverted to their bank accounts... so when there is no money except in the pockets of the 1% then it will become time to eat the rich... a Zombie movie but where the Zombies are the heroes.

    The first major Zombie movie took place in a Mall because it was assumed consumerism would destroy the west, which is not far from the truth... when China and India start turning in to American levels of consumerism and waste then there will be not much hope for the future of the planet... wars over resources will sort out the population issues fairly quickly... the west will need weapons to decimate populations rapidly... in Vietnam the problem was the Jungles providing cover so they destroyed the plants... WWIII the problem is going to be the population of the enemy meaning all the fire power and technology of the west is meaningless because the numbers of enemy combatants means they are unstoppable... so they are going to have to develop technology to kill large numbers of people... so they will most likely choose a targeted virus which will mutate and end up killing us all...

    Patriarchy is the only proven model for high fertility.

    Bullshit.

    The Nazis also loved their welfare too, they would have suffered the same fate.

    And yet we are seeing continues fertility decline and stagnation.
    Where are those babies?

    You said Russia is in decline and stagnation since Lenin was in charge because women became empowered... seems to me that the Russian population has gone up and down over the last 100 years but there does not seem to be much chance of the world running out of Russians.


    Yes they will, but the idea is those single people will be the kids born thanks to the program.
    You know, in order to keep the welfare going you need the kids to pay it.

    Why would a single person pay tax if they can't get support from that system until they are married?

    It's sadly necessary, so women are more inclined to find a Man, so they wont get killed, raped or stolen from.

    Or they could buy a shotgun.

    Russia's fertility needs to be at least 2.2 for the population to be maintained, from what we see, they haven't achieved that.
    And probably wont, unless more pressure are placed on their Women.

    A decline in population is fine.  Working out how to make that happen in the rest of the world is the real problem.

    China is still pretty patriarchal, and their government isn't stupid like the West's.

    They have laws forcing parents to have only one child and because of their culture that means lots of abortions till they know they are having a boy... which is leading to a country with more families with one boy and few girls... it is simply not sustainable... but their population is too big and it needed extreme measures to slow it down because increasing a population means rapid further growth because there are more reproducing couples and with falling infant mortality rates and longer lives the problem of over population is magnified.

    When divorces were becoming a problem, the government realized what was going on, and stripped Women of the ability to get property from a divorce settlement, this had an immediate effect.

    Divorce laws are a mess and are exploited by ruthless people of either gender...


    Not really, men in general are more competent than Women.

    From that statement alone I can tell you are an idiot. Competent at what? Men are more competent at having babies than women?

    Fuck off.

    The society where gender are treated equally is failing right in front of us, so it's not feasible for the long term.

    Yeah, the first few years of industrialisation were resisted... workers would throw shoes into the machinery to make it fail... the French word for shoe is sabot... and throwing a sabot into a machines gears to break it is called sabotage... with the machine broken everything had to be done by hand again so the french workers got work.
    There is no reason why women can't be treated as equals but it has to be fair... that means they get equal pay but also have to do equal work. Sport will become radically different... think of the effect on boxing for instance... which is of course where the concept of equality breaks down.

    It is also interesting that feminists don't demand to be put on the draft, or demand equal prison time for crimes committed...

    I am not a feminist, but I don't view women as a different species like you seem to.

    You lost your house because your wife divorced you, you lost your job because your cunt wife made up stupid sh%t to your employer and on social media, you can't find another job because everyone believes Woman's lies.
    All this because you were stupid enough to get married in a country that is going full Gynocentric, thanks to freeing their Women and giving them everything, with little to no consequences.

    Was talking to my neighbour... he had three houses in Auckland worth about 2 million dollars each... three divorces later he has nothing... he smiled when I mentioned he probably could have had all three murdered for less than $100K... They had better lawyers than he did.

    But You are telling me we should cut off all welfare to force men to marry these bitches... men are stupid and believe the lies women tell before marriage... just as many women make the same mistake... he beats me up when he gets drunk but he really loves me...

    How are you proposing to change society back to what it was... you can't take away their vote... if you try they might take away ours...


    This stupidity is happening a lot in India, to the point where Men started putting their home under their parents name, but the Indian supreme court decided to give the Women whatever the F she wants regardless.

    You don't wanna get Screwed, as the gamers would say, Getgud son.
    People aren't motivated to do things unless some level fear and suffering are involved, try to take care of everyone and you end up just like the Rat experiment.
    Dead and gone.

    So clearly the solution is those japanese sex robots so you don't want a wife any more and can keep all your money and property.


    The Israelis can keep their population in check, this is thanks to 3 thing.
    Their Draft, which i also recommend to Russia.
    Their religious courts that wield legal power over marriage, and try do the Patriarchal thing in their religion.
    And their Orthodox believers who have lots of kids "because" they still maintain the Patriarchal parts of their Religion.
    See a trend?

    Israel is the best example of the problem at hand... they import jews from all over the world but the biggest population growth contributers are the hasidic jews who do nothing but read their bible all day... they are fucking useless to society... they are excused from the draft, and they don't have any practical life skills so when they become a majority then they will be a huge burden on Israeli society...

    Things are not looking good for Israel... maybe that is why they want a war with Iran... they see the writing on the world and want WWIII to happen...


    The Japanese were also very Patriarchal, but thanks to the Americans changing their laws after the war, their Fertility went straight to hell.
    In a very similar fashion to when Lenin initial freed Russian Women.

    Bullshit... Americans changing their laws did fuck all and their population decline is because their population is educated and aging... the Russian population has not be on a steady decline for the last 100 years otherwise famines and wars would mean there were none left by now.

    So I wonder if woman just want to have many kids but keep making things difficult cause they act as though if they do, we may not respect them?

    Reminds me of a British comedian who once said when he and his wife had one kid they wanted four kids, but after they had two kids they wanted one kid again.

    My sister had a kid and thought having another made sense... they already had the stuff because kids clothes don't wear out... they outgrow them before they wear out, plus they can play together and entertain each other and be much less work to look after. She had a second and soon found out they fight and are 10 times the work one child is... and can't be left alone together at all... even now they are adults...

    If all the atheists want to have 1 kid, so be it. Less of them in the end.

    Interesting idea but you do know that children reach a rebellious age and could choose any religion they like... Jimmy Carr was brought up Catholic and is currently an Athiest I believe...


    And Russians are doing fine for for themselves, it's those good old white whores of Europe and their American offshoots that are going down the shitter (and good riddance to bad trash)

    X2

    Russia has been equal regards to women for the best part of 100 years and is actually doing rather well considering the western world is against it and actively fighting with economic sanctions and political attacks.

    The west does not berate Russia for being sexist, it berates it for being homophobic, but in actual fact it really isn't.

    I don't much like spiders. It doesn't bother me that they are all over the place but if I get in the bath and there is a spider there I either kill it or capture it in a container and throw it out the window. By that you could call me arachnophobia. By the same token if I found a gay man in my bath I would probably remove it from my house too so in a sense I am homophobic. What I don't do is go out with fly spray or a gun to hunt down spiders and gays to kill... that is the category I would consider bad and a problem. Russia doesn't make gays illegal... what else do they want?

    Ideal modern woman... Body of a supermodel and behaviour of male superheroe like James Bond

    I feel sorry for girls growing up because their ideals are unattainable... before they had to be pretty, but now they have to be better than men and pretty and smart...

    Love this poster by the way...

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    they can get a strapon with artificial penis to satisfy their female partner. That's 2 females denied to 2 males, resulting in 4 unborn kids needed to keep the #s even.
    It's a bad substitute in all respects, but they don't realize that!

    Two women in a stable relationship could adopt children so they have a better upbringing than anything the state could provide... artificial insemination or just a drunken fling could easily result in one or both women having children if they want to.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:19 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:...hey Papadragon, and where do you put italians and greeks in your list? First slaves of their north Atlantic white masters?

    Greeks are role models thumbsup

    Italians are alright they just need to get back in their groove

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:48 am

    Two women in a stable relationship could adopt children so they have a better upbringing than anything the state could provide...
    In their upbringing there will be no psychological balance with 2 female parents. Many young men get in trouble w/o a male father mentoring them, & some commit suicide. Girls OTH will not be used to be around a man & may become lesbians themselves.
    So, IMO it's a time bomb.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:57 am

    In their upbringing there will be no psychological balance with 2 female parents. Many young men get in trouble w/o a male father mentoring them, & some commit suicide. Girls OTH will not be used to be around a man & may become lesbians themselves.
    So, IMO it's a time bomb.

    Hahahahahaha... many young men get into trouble whether they have a good father or a bad or absent father... if you want to blame the parents for everything then go right ahead.

    Are you trying to say daughters become heterosexual because they want to have sex with their father?

    Really?

    If the only male role model a child has is their father then society has fucked up.

    What about a family with two male parents... will that make their children gay?

    Because if it does then does that mean that gay people are gay because their other gender parent was absent or ineffective in their role so they could learn to respect that gender?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:45 am

    Having heterosexual as opposed to homosexual parents reduces the chances of those children becoming homosexuals themselves, as they have only such role models in their formative years.
    The more of them created, more problems they create in a given society. Biological differences between males & females r still going to be with us regardless of their sexual orientation. For a society to survive, prosper, & be healthy, gender roles must not be subordinated nor excluded from their everyday lives.
    It's sickening to me to see all those independent & liberated girls & women in the US that r only female-like on the outside but full of feminist shit & empty inside. To me, they lost their femininity & r not even worth the clothing they r wearing.
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    Post  owais.usmani on Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:22 am

    Lets change the topic a little shall we... Smile

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/whos-afraid-of-the-first-china-russia-road-bridge/

    Who’s Afraid of the First China-Russia Road Bridge?


    Addressing the persistent myth that China seeks a demographic takeover of the Russian Far East.



    There have been numerous examples of Sino-Russian cooperation in recent years, such as the opening of the Power of Siberia gas pipeline to the Chinese northern border, the deal for controversial Chinese telecom firm Huawei to develop 5G in Russia, Russian military planes flying around Taiwan, and Russia helping China build its missile defense system. Among these collaborations, the establishment of the first road bridge between the two, connecting Blagoveshchensk in Russia’s Far East with Heihe in northeastern China, has become a controversial issue. Some scholars and media outlets, especially in the West, insist on the stereotype that this bridge may accelerate the demographic expansion of China in the Far East, but I argue that the logic has confused the historical sentiments with the current reality of increasing trust in Sino-Russian relations.

    Admittedly, the Chinese demographic expansion myth, and more general Sinophobia, has a long history in Russia, reflected in the fact that China’s part of the bridge had been built years ago, while the Russian part has only just been completed. This mentality is based on the adjacency of China and Russia and the huge disparity in population along the border. General Alexei Kuropatkin, minister of defense and commander of the Russian army during the Japanese-Russian War, once claimed that “If we were to abolish the Russo-Chinese border and allow the Chinese to enter Siberia as the Russians, Siberia would soon be Sinicized and the Russians would be moving beyond the Ural Mountains.” In 2006, the Russian government issued a decree to outlaw foreign immigrant workers, forcing some illegal Chinese laborers to leave Russia. Professor Yuri Tavrovsky from the People’s Friendship University of Russia argues that when China offers to undertake development projects in the Far East, Russian leaders are vigilant and keep these concerns in mind, albeit without mentioning anything openly.

    Russia’s concerns are bolstered by maximalist territorial ambitions among China’s most fervent nationalists. There are continuous complaints in the Chinese public sphere and academia rebuking Russia as the country that benefitted the most from the decline of modern China in the Qing Dynasty. This is an interesting phenomenon given the censorship in China — the open expression of these sentiments suggests the tacit approval of the Chinese government. In 2011, a famous Chinese song “Baikal Lake,” written by Li Jian, triggered laments from Chinese citizens over their country’s past territorial losses to Russia. Meanwhile, the strong interest of Chinese businesses in this lake led to great investment around this area, resulting in a Russian protest in 2019 against the potential pollution the new Chinese factories may bring. According to Tavrovsky, this territorial history is embedded deep in the national psyche or “collective imagination” of both Russians and Chinese.

    However, do negative imageries and the frictions inherent in cooperation really matter if the states involved – in this case, the two biggest authoritarian countries — avoid weaponizing and manipulating these sentiments to distract from internal issues and enhance the stability of domestic politics? In fact, similar issues have appeared around the world in relation to cooperation with China but do not affect the essence of bilateral relations, even in democratic states where public opinions can be fully expressed. Taking Sino-Japanese cooperation as an example, despite their well-known historical hatred, current territorial conflict in the East China Sea, and some trade disputes, bilateral trade has boomed for decades, reaching $327.7 billion in 2018.

    Furthermore, there is no factual evidence of a Chinese mass migration into Russia. According to the Federal Migration Service, there were 11 million foreigners in Russia in May 2015, mainly labor migrants. Chinese accounted for a mere 3 percent of that number (about 330,000), ranking tenth after Ukraine (23 percent), Uzbekistan (19 percent), Tajikistan (9 percent), Kazakhstan (6 percent), Belarus, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Armenia, and Kyrgyzstan (about 5 percent each). Also in 2015, the head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, said that there is no evidence illustrating Chinese expansion in Russia, and pointed out there are only 10,000 to 20,000 more Chinese migrants in Russia than Germans.

    Sino-Russian relations have traditionally been referred to as “hot in politics, cold in economics” and “hot at the official level, and cold at the people’s level.” But nowadays this situation has been transformed. China has been Russia’s largest trading partner for nine consecutive years. Sino-Russian trade surpassed $100 billion for the first time in 2018 and continued to grow in 2019. In November 2019, Russian Far East Investment and Export Support Agency investment manager Vasily Libo revealed that China’s foreign investment accounted for almost 60 percent of foreign investment in the region.

    And in terms of people-to-people exchanges, in 2018, there were more Russians (2.5 million) traveling in China than Chinese travelling in Russia (2 million). Most interestingly, regardless of the collective imagination, in the Spring 2019 Global Attitudes Survey from the Pew Research Center, Russians had the most positive attitude toward China — 71 percent favorable, up from 65 percent favorable in 2018 — showing the growing understanding between Chinese and Russians.

    The West has viewed the Sino-Russian border through colored lenses for decades, mainly echoing historical sentiments without regard for modern-day realities. In fact, the warmer climate and more lucrative salaries in China are more attractive to the majority of Chinese than the prospect of working in Russia. Furthermore, Professor Alexander Lukin from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations argues that “the PRC has never made official territorial claims against Russia, even in the most strained periods of Soviet-Chinese relations.” On the contrary, during the chaos of the formation of the Russian Federation, the Chinese government proposed to solve the territorial issues on the basis of equality and discussion, and constantly advised Chinese citizens in Russia to obey local laws and contribute to their host country’s economic development. More importantly, both sides have adequate military power to demolish each other and face similar pressure from the United States, factors that incentivize peaceful bilateral relations.

    The Chinese demographic expansion is just a myth and will only be a myth.
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    Post  PhSt on Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:47 pm

    Russian authorities will be making a HUGE mistake if they allow CIA pressure groups to influence their laws and let these murderers free. Next time a random man will kill Putin and then claim he is only acting in “Self Defence” because of Putin’s dictatorial tendencies. Rolling Eyes Kill these three women and feed their remains to the pigs



    Russia may drop murder charge in Khachaturyan sisters case

    Three Moscow sisters accused of murdering their father are likely to have the charges reduced to "necessary self-defence", their lawyers say.
    The decision by Russia's chief prosecutor could lead to their criminal prosecution being dropped, lawyer Alexei Parshin told Tass news agency.

    In July 2018 the teenage Khachaturyan sisters stabbed and battered their father to death in his sleep.
    He had beaten and sexually abused them, so many Russians urged their release.

    More than 350,000 people signed a petition supporting the sisters, and their high-profile case was a powerful argument for a new law against domestic violence, expected to take effect this year.

    Human rights activists argued that the sisters were not criminals but victims, as they had no means of getting help and protection from their abusive father.

    Krestina, Angelina and Maria Khachaturyan, who were 17, 18 and 19 when they stabbed their father to death, currently face up to 20 years in prison, after the Investigative Committee (SK) accused them of premeditated murder.

    Mr Parshin said "the prosecutor has taken a position, that this was self-defence and the SK has to consider that position, the investigators have to consider this. This will, I think mean more investigation.
    "I hope after that, the case will be closed against the girls. I think it will take another month or two."

    The sisters live in different places and cannot speak to each other or to the media. They are free to come and go, but cannot communicate with anyone linked to the case, the lawyer said.

    Deputy Prosecutor-General Viktor Grin, quoted by Mr Parshin, said the SK's conclusions had not taken full account of the circumstances which drove the young women to murder.

    The father's behaviour, Mr Grin argued, posed a real threat to the sisters' safety, which justified them resorting to any means to defend themselves.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:31 pm

    PhSt wrote:...Kill these three women and feed their remains to the pigs


    Or how about they dig up dear old daddy and feed his corpse to the pigs? (poor pigs...)

    Had cops bothered to do their job there would be no need for this circus

    Good thing these girls finally get to be free after lifetime of hell and this case will also act as a warning for all other psycho pedophiles out there so double win here



    (Also you went off topic, this belongs in crime treat not population tread)




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    Post  kvs on Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:48 pm

    There is no physical evidence of these sisters actually having been raped. Or even sexually abused. Claims
    of rape and sexual abuse are a dime a dozen these days since wicked women have learned that their real daddy is the
    state and will always believe their claims against those of a man. Islam is looking better and better all the
    time....

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:36 am

    Having heterosexual as opposed to homosexual parents reduces the chances of those children becoming homosexuals themselves, as they have only such role models in their formative years.

    That is your opinion... do you have any factually based evidence to support this?

    The more of them created, more problems they create in a given society. Biological differences between males & females r still going to be with us regardless of their sexual orientation. For a society to survive, prosper, & be healthy, gender roles must not be subordinated nor excluded from their everyday lives.

    There has always been homosexuality... in animals as well as humans... it is perfectly normal in the sense that it happens everywhere... the difference in the west is that rather than hiding it in shame, it now is a badge of honour that can be brought out to prove you are a minority.

    It's sickening to me to see all those independent & liberated girls & women in the US that r only female-like on the outside but full of feminist shit & empty inside. To me, they lost their femininity & r not even worth the clothing they r wearing.

    Well I really don't give a shit who someone else loves and why... they are attracted to people not a gender... I am sure you wouldn't just screw any woman, even though you are heterosexual, many seem to think gay people are just sex addicts and chase their own sex because they understand them better. I really don't think being gay is a concious choice... because it is certainly not the easy choice... it generally costs you your family and friends...
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    Post  PhSt on Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:51 am

    Had cops bothered to do their job there would be no need for this circus

    Good thing these girls finally get to be free after lifetime of hell and this case will also act as a warning for all other psycho pedophiles out there so double win here

    Regardless whether these women were abused or not, they STILL committed a crime and murdered someone. They still have to be subjected to punishment as prescribed by the law. Bending laws just because a bunch of 5th column NGOs (under CIA direction) are BITCHING is a very bad precedent and will give America the idea that mass protests and demonstrations are effective tools to subvert Russian laws. This will encourage Russia's enemies to intensify efforts to bribe people to rally in the streets to pressure the Russian government. Like what I said, if this kind of backward logic is tolerated, soon we will see some guy murdering Putin or some other high ranking Russian political figure and then later be demanded by these NGO pigs to be set free because he/ she is "Only a Kid" and that the person only committed the crime because he was "Abused" by Putin and so his actions are totally justified and approved by the Free World.

    There is no other choice but for Patriotic Russians to take actions to their own hands and play dirty. Set up vigilant cells and slay these NATO whores. Leave their corpse hanging in poles in the streets to set an example to every traitorous pigs about the fate that awaits them if ever they sign up to become a useful idiot for NATO.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:07 am

    PhSt wrote:
    Had cops bothered to do their job there would be no need for this circus

    Good thing these girls finally get to be free after lifetime of hell and this case will also act as a warning for all other psycho pedophiles out there so double win here

    Regardless whether these women were abused or not, they STILL committed a crime and murdered someone. They still have to be subjected to punishment as prescribed by the law.


    Here is why they are being released:

    Russia’s deputy chief prosecutor has refused to approve the Khachaturyans’ indictment because the investigators had failed to take the abuse from their father into account, according to TASS news agency.

    Investigators (cops) didn't feel like doing their job so someone else has to double down on doing theirs.

    Someone had to be adult in the room.



    PhSt wrote:There is no other choice but for Patriotic Russians to take actions to their own hands and play dirty. Set up vigilant cells and slay these NATO whores. Leave their corpse hanging in poles in the streets to set an example to every traitorous pigs about the fate that awaits them if ever they sign up to become a useful idiot for NATO.

    Just like there is no other choice but for Patriotic Russian women to take actions to their own hands and play dirty. Set up vigilant cells and slay these incestoid rapists. Leave their corpse hanging in poles in the streets to set an example to every rapist pigs about the fate that awaits them if ever they chose to become sex offenders.


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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:45 am

    Justifying 1st degree homicide as "self defense" when the victim is sleeping is nonsense. All they had to do was leave the house and go to the cops. Let the law sort him out, if indeed he is actually guilty of the allegations.

    If the law accepts this as a defense, they create a monstrous precedent that is open to all kinds of abuse.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:27 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Justifying 1st degree homicide as "self defense" when the victim is sleeping is nonsense. All they had to do was leave the house and go to the cops. Let the law sort him out, if indeed he is actually guilty of the allegations.

    Law clearly dropped the ball which left them with no other course of action



    Big_Gazza wrote:If the law accepts this as a defense, they create a monstrous precedent that is open to all kinds of abuse.

    Good, it should serve as motivation to law enforcement to finally start doing their jobs which will prevent any potential abuse

    Competent law enforcement is best tool against abuse



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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:10 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Justifying 1st degree homicide as "self defense" when the victim is sleeping is nonsense.  All they had to do was leave the house and go to the cops. Let the law sort him out, if indeed he is actually guilty of the allegations.

    Law clearly dropped the ball which left them with no other course of action



    Big_Gazza wrote:If the law accepts this as a defense, they create a monstrous precedent that is open to all kinds of abuse.

    Good, it should serve as motivation to law enforcement to finally start doing their jobs which will prevent any potential abuse

    Competent law enforcement is best tool against abuse


    Ahh... I get it. You're a beta-male cucked soi-boy progressive who subscribes to "believe women"...

    Don't get me wrong, I think rapists and deviants are fully deserving of the noose, but there is a procedure to be followed.. and any other way simply opens a door to amoral psycho bitches who choose to murder in order to get what they want, cuz the poor dead dude doesn't get to speak in his defense...

    Women are just as capable to be cold blooded killers as men. The fact that they were born with a vagina doesn't grant them the privilege of an automatic assumption of innocence.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:44 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:...Ahh... I get it. You're a beta-male cucked soi-boy progressive who subscribes to "believe women"...

    Nah, I am just a person who has nothing but ridicule for losers like you and your butt-boy AlphaT8 who can't get no pussy so they think that they might have a chance of getting their cherry popped if somehow someone legally forces females to have sex with them

    Tip: prostitution is a thing so stop being a cheap loser and throw some cash on the problem



    As for actual topic at hand, 9 put of 10 problems of this type I encounter at work is solely due to male parents and cops being lazy morons who think that they are entitled to paycheck without having to do any work

    Statistics is a cold heartless bitch who cares not for vaginas

    So once cops actually start doing their jobs scandals resulting from them not doing their jobs will start disappearing (shocking, I know)


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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:07 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Nah, I am just a person who has nothing but ridicule for losers like you and your butt-boy AlphaT8 who can't get no pussy so they think that they might have a chance of getting their cherry popped if somehow someone legally forces females to have sex with them

    Hmmm... Yeah... cuz a 54 yo married dude with 2 grown up kids is looking to get his cherry popped...

    You want to blame the cops for this fiasco, but do you have any evidence that this isn't just a Ruskie version of the Hernandez brothers case with reversed gender roles? Is there any actual evidence that the father was a rapist and general all-round scumbag?

    Without evidence, I'll resort to good old law and order and I'll reject law-of-the-jungle vigilante bullshit.
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    Post  PhSt on Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:15 am


    Investigators (cops) didn't feel like doing their job so someone else has to double down on doing theirs.

    Someone had to be adult in the room.

    Murder is still a grave crime. These three women murdered their father, they need the death penalty. Like what B. Gaza said they could have escaped instead and sought help from the police. Also, even if the Father is guilty of rape, i dont think its a kind of offence that justifies him being killed, at most the heaviest punishment would be life imprisonment but not execution.

    If a similar incident happened in other countries, these murderers will still get the punishment they deserve. What if someone stabs you to death and then later on claim that she feels intimidated by you and that she is "Only a Kid" and a "Woman" and because she is a supporter of "Freedom" and "Democracy" and the courts decided to clear her up of all the charges? Is that FAIR for you? What if someone kills Putin and resorts to the same argument and cite similar incidents such as this one where the killers are set free because they have a just cause to murder someone? You sound like a lawyer who is doing everything to defend his client. You know your client is a murderer but you just defend her anyways because you simply want to "Oppose" our arguments.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:23 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Justifying 1st degree homicide as "self defense" when the victim is sleeping is nonsense.  All they had to do was leave the house and go to the cops. Let the law sort him out, if indeed he is actually guilty of the allegations.

    If the law accepts this as a defense, they create a monstrous precedent that is open to all kinds of abuse.

    Given the "progressive" legal climate in the west-influence world (which includes Russia), they would have received solid support from
    the system and their father would basically have to prove his innocence. That they couldn't be bothered to follow this route tells me
    that they are indeed verminous murdering swine.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:28 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:...Without evidence, I'll resort to good old law and order and I'll reject law-of-the-jungle vigilante bullshit.

    Looks like good old law and order is about to let them go free



    PhSt wrote:Murder is still a grave crime.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitigating_factor



    PhSt wrote:These three women murdered their father, they need the death penalty.

    Really? These these three specifically? Not the countless other killers, rapists, pedophiles, terrorists and psychos?

    In a country without a death penalty?

    What is it about this specific case that ruffles your jimmies so hard? It's starting to sound quite personal...



    PhSt wrote:they could have escaped instead and sought help from the police.

    Let me clue you in on a little trade (not so much) secret: individuals who are abused their entire lives are not capable ot thinking logically because they are trained since early childhood to be submissive to abuser and are no different than circus animals in this regard

    Making sure that they do not ever contact the police is the first thing that is drilled into their heads

    But like with quite a few trained animals they sometimes bite back and kill the owner once he pushes them too hard




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