Russia's fertility burned to the goddamn ground when Lenin rose and freed the Women, that is categorical evidence of what happens when the Women is freed.
Really... so what you are saying is that the worst possible thing that could have happened to Russia happened in 1920 so for 100 years Russia has been collapsing in on itself... while at the same time fought and won a world war and then fought a cold war with the rich and powerful west... you are proving my point that you don't have a point.
If womens rights destroys society then Russian society should be dead... it has had 100 years to die yet it has actually grown and been beaten back by various external threats and grown back stronger to counter that external threat.
The West simply took a slower route, but the end results are the same.
Which is fertility decline and now stagnation.
Bullshit. There was a period during the 1990s when economics in Russia were a rollercoaster ride with more plunges than the best rides anywhere... not a great time to have kids.... and now, 20 years later there will be an impact because the fewer people born in the 1990s means fewer 20-30 year olds are around at the moment and your 20s and 30s is the best time to have kids...
We are not going to understand the real effect for some time, but the best thing we can do is not enslave women and force them to have children, but to create an economic and political environment that is safe and stable for people to want to have families.
Nope, wherever women were freed whether it be Greece, Iran or Mongolia, the fertility soon fell, this is the trend i see constantly.
Yeah, and also child mortality went down and life expectancy went up so it is just as bloody well fertility went down because otherwise the problem would be over population.
The problems of low fertility can be easily solved... semen banks can be used to fertilise single women to boost the population fairly rapidly, though of course that would introduce the issue of natural sex becoming problematic... how do you know the person you are in a relationship is not related to you?
Shit and otherwise, isn't gonna turn into a person, are you listening to yourself?
Depends what you are eating doesn't it?
Why do you welfare types always put water and electricity on these lists, they have nothing to do with welfare and taxes, they are a service we voluntarily pay for, the government isn't gonna beat down my door for not paying for those.
What country do you come from? Here in New Zealand electricity is not paid for by tax. In large cities like Auckland you pay for water coming in to the home and also for waste water going out. It does not come to taxes in either case.
And roads or footpaths, look like you ran out of ideas.
Do you think a modern society can function without footpaths or roads?
Do you build and maintain the footpaths and roads outside your house and place of business yourself?
Good, don't subsidize stupid behavior.
Or you will have more of it.
So someone choosing to have an abortion should not get support or help... so if they can't afford it and kill themselves and their child trying some stupid old wives remedy to abort a pregnancy you will laugh and think justice is served. But then some 15 year old girl should know better right... I am sure you are perfect and have never made any fucking mistakes.
Women in general are pretty Risk averse, so the more consequences, the less likely they will try it.
Of course... 15 year old girls with their hormones all over the place are known for their rational decision making... that is why teenage pregnancies don't exist... and boys always wear condoms when having sex... I am sure you wear two just to be safe right?
When the State subsidizes something like abortions they make the situation worst, that's all i have been saying.
Yeah of course... I hear it all the time in schools... lets fuck baby... if you get pregnant you can always get a free abortion paid for by the government...
Really? Most girls are too ashamed to tell anyone till it is too late... the state gives drug alternatives to drug addicts... is that encouraging drug use too?
Hell the current US opioid epidemic is legal prescribed drugs that are killing people and you think abortions are the problem.
BTW, fathers hardly ever have a say in these matters, that's patriarchal, and the West has very little of that.
So the solution is to not have abortions or make them hard to get... I can understand them not wanting male input if that is what you have to say.
No it isn't, they wont have many kids, so the welfare state that depends on those kids will falter.
Welfare -> Fertility decline -> Welfare collapse or Mass immigration.
Again... you don't know what you are talking about... normally in a welfare state the payments stop when the children reach a certain age, which has the direct effect that when their kid reaches that age they tend to have another one... the age is usually 12-14 or so years old... after the kid turns 5 they are off to school so the mother is often required to find part time work between the hours of 9 and 3... so often they will actually have kids every 5 years so they don't have to get any job at all...
Now to be clear the system can be abused, but there are also a lot of genuine cases where the assistance of welfare means the child was not aborted or the mother didn't do something like putting the child up for adoption or extreme and irrational like matricide/suicide.
It is a very complex subject and your simple solutions show you really don't know much about what you are talking about.
Yea that's the idea, when life becomes hard for them they will seek a Man to relieve them of their problems, they could also go to their Families, this is the trend where i live.
So instead of funding abortions you want family refuges to be funded for beaten women who have married for financial security only to find the guy is a dick and is violent, or she picks a man who is a loser or molests their kids... yeah of course a mummy and a daddy make everything better even if they hate each other and fight all the time... You must live up to the christian ideal whether it works or not... how many murder cases do the neighbours say they seemed like a happy family... people will naturally put on a public facade, but in private can be totally different... all people are like that.
But so long as the State isn't doing the supporting, this problem wont explode and become the norm.
WHAT PROBLEM... are you talking about abortions killing unborn children or are you talking about women not getting married and having lots of children to maintain the welfare income they get... because they are the opposite problem... one will reduce the population slightly and the other increases the population.
Either way you are ignoring the real bad guy here... the male that doesn't use a condom and is fucking everything that moves... where is the punishment for him, why isn't he being held accountable?
It's a well known statistic at this point, believe it or not, this is how it is.
If it is such a well known statistic then please fill me in on the details... where was the sample taken and which population does it relate to... and indeed when was it taken... statistics change from time to time and location to location... or is this some magic fucking statistic that applies everywhere and any time?
Your crime rate looks pretty suspicious, peeked in the 80s to 2000s, i wonder what happened, i can't find those single mother numbers for NZ, pity.
I can tell you that being a single unmarried mother was shameful in the 80s and before... these days it is not.
Don't expect things to actually make sense... prostitution is perfectly legal in New Zealand, yet there are still rapes... you would think making prostitution legal would eliminate rape as a problem.... but the real world doesn't work like that.
Just like you can't force a woman financially to trap a man for his income potential... or indeed a woman for the same reasons in a lesbian relationship, you also can't get some men to stop raping women... tell them they can pay for it if they want it and they will say they don't want that woman... they want this one...
Yea, the older generation is gonna be really screwed when the Welfare state finally falls, should have had kids or more kids, but oh well.
Just take up sky diving and when the money runs out just don't pull the cord... it is going to be much worse for the kids who have their whole lives ahead of them in such an environment.
The biggest threat to welfare states is big business bending the ear of right wing politicians trying to get that funding and money diverted to their bank accounts... so when there is no money except in the pockets of the 1% then it will become time to eat the rich... a Zombie movie but where the Zombies are the heroes.
The first major Zombie movie took place in a Mall because it was assumed consumerism would destroy the west, which is not far from the truth... when China and India start turning in to American levels of consumerism and waste then there will be not much hope for the future of the planet... wars over resources will sort out the population issues fairly quickly... the west will need weapons to decimate populations rapidly... in Vietnam the problem was the Jungles providing cover so they destroyed the plants... WWIII the problem is going to be the population of the enemy meaning all the fire power and technology of the west is meaningless because the numbers of enemy combatants means they are unstoppable... so they are going to have to develop technology to kill large numbers of people... so they will most likely choose a targeted virus which will mutate and end up killing us all...
Patriarchy is the only proven model for high fertility.
The Nazis also loved their welfare too, they would have suffered the same fate.
And yet we are seeing continues fertility decline and stagnation.
Where are those babies?
You said Russia is in decline and stagnation since Lenin was in charge because women became empowered... seems to me that the Russian population has gone up and down over the last 100 years but there does not seem to be much chance of the world running out of Russians.
Yes they will, but the idea is those single people will be the kids born thanks to the program.
You know, in order to keep the welfare going you need the kids to pay it.
Why would a single person pay tax if they can't get support from that system until they are married?
It's sadly necessary, so women are more inclined to find a Man, so they wont get killed, raped or stolen from.
Or they could buy a shotgun.
Russia's fertility needs to be at least 2.2 for the population to be maintained, from what we see, they haven't achieved that.
And probably wont, unless more pressure are placed on their Women.
A decline in population is fine. Working out how to make that happen in the rest of the world is the real problem.
China is still pretty patriarchal, and their government isn't stupid like the West's.
They have laws forcing parents to have only one child and because of their culture that means lots of abortions till they know they are having a boy... which is leading to a country with more families with one boy and few girls... it is simply not sustainable... but their population is too big and it needed extreme measures to slow it down because increasing a population means rapid further growth because there are more reproducing couples and with falling infant mortality rates and longer lives the problem of over population is magnified.
When divorces were becoming a problem, the government realized what was going on, and stripped Women of the ability to get property from a divorce settlement, this had an immediate effect.
Divorce laws are a mess and are exploited by ruthless people of either gender...
Not really, men in general are more competent than Women.
From that statement alone I can tell you are an idiot. Competent at what? Men are more competent at having babies than women?
The society where gender are treated equally is failing right in front of us, so it's not feasible for the long term.
Yeah, the first few years of industrialisation were resisted... workers would throw shoes into the machinery to make it fail... the French word for shoe is sabot... and throwing a sabot into a machines gears to break it is called sabotage... with the machine broken everything had to be done by hand again so the french workers got work.
There is no reason why women can't be treated as equals but it has to be fair... that means they get equal pay but also have to do equal work. Sport will become radically different... think of the effect on boxing for instance... which is of course where the concept of equality breaks down.
It is also interesting that feminists don't demand to be put on the draft, or demand equal prison time for crimes committed...
I am not a feminist, but I don't view women as a different species like you seem to.
You lost your house because your wife divorced you, you lost your job because your cunt wife made up stupid sh%t to your employer and on social media, you can't find another job because everyone believes Woman's lies.
All this because you were stupid enough to get married in a country that is going full Gynocentric, thanks to freeing their Women and giving them everything, with little to no consequences.
Was talking to my neighbour... he had three houses in Auckland worth about 2 million dollars each... three divorces later he has nothing... he smiled when I mentioned he probably could have had all three murdered for less than $100K... They had better lawyers than he did.
But You are telling me we should cut off all welfare to force men to marry these bitches... men are stupid and believe the lies women tell before marriage... just as many women make the same mistake... he beats me up when he gets drunk but he really loves me...
How are you proposing to change society back to what it was... you can't take away their vote... if you try they might take away ours...
This stupidity is happening a lot in India, to the point where Men started putting their home under their parents name, but the Indian supreme court decided to give the Women whatever the F she wants regardless.
You don't wanna get Screwed, as the gamers would say, Getgud son.
People aren't motivated to do things unless some level fear and suffering are involved, try to take care of everyone and you end up just like the Rat experiment.
Dead and gone.
So clearly the solution is those japanese sex robots so you don't want a wife any more and can keep all your money and property.
The Israelis can keep their population in check, this is thanks to 3 thing.
Their Draft, which i also recommend to Russia.
Their religious courts that wield legal power over marriage, and try do the Patriarchal thing in their religion.
And their Orthodox believers who have lots of kids "because" they still maintain the Patriarchal parts of their Religion.
See a trend?
Israel is the best example of the problem at hand... they import jews from all over the world but the biggest population growth contributers are the hasidic jews who do nothing but read their bible all day... they are fucking useless to society... they are excused from the draft, and they don't have any practical life skills so when they become a majority then they will be a huge burden on Israeli society...
Things are not looking good for Israel... maybe that is why they want a war with Iran... they see the writing on the world and want WWIII to happen...
The Japanese were also very Patriarchal, but thanks to the Americans changing their laws after the war, their Fertility went straight to hell.
In a very similar fashion to when Lenin initial freed Russian Women.
Bullshit... Americans changing their laws did fuck all and their population decline is because their population is educated and aging... the Russian population has not be on a steady decline for the last 100 years otherwise famines and wars would mean there were none left by now.
So I wonder if woman just want to have many kids but keep making things difficult cause they act as though if they do, we may not respect them?
Reminds me of a British comedian who once said when he and his wife had one kid they wanted four kids, but after they had two kids they wanted one kid again.
My sister had a kid and thought having another made sense... they already had the stuff because kids clothes don't wear out... they outgrow them before they wear out, plus they can play together and entertain each other and be much less work to look after. She had a second and soon found out they fight and are 10 times the work one child is... and can't be left alone together at all... even now they are adults...
If all the atheists want to have 1 kid, so be it. Less of them in the end.
Interesting idea but you do know that children reach a rebellious age and could choose any religion they like... Jimmy Carr was brought up Catholic and is currently an Athiest I believe...
And Russians are doing fine for for themselves, it's those good old white whores of Europe and their American offshoots that are going down the shitter (and good riddance to bad trash)
Russia has been equal regards to women for the best part of 100 years and is actually doing rather well considering the western world is against it and actively fighting with economic sanctions and political attacks.
The west does not berate Russia for being sexist, it berates it for being homophobic, but in actual fact it really isn't.
I don't much like spiders. It doesn't bother me that they are all over the place but if I get in the bath and there is a spider there I either kill it or capture it in a container and throw it out the window. By that you could call me arachnophobia. By the same token if I found a gay man in my bath I would probably remove it from my house too so in a sense I am homophobic. What I don't do is go out with fly spray or a gun to hunt down spiders and gays to kill... that is the category I would consider bad and a problem. Russia doesn't make gays illegal... what else do they want?
Ideal modern woman... Body of a supermodel and behaviour of male superheroe like James Bond
I feel sorry for girls growing up because their ideals are unattainable... before they had to be pretty, but now they have to be better than men and pretty and smart...
Love this poster by the way...
they can get a strapon with artificial penis to satisfy their female partner. That's 2 females denied to 2 males, resulting in 4 unborn kids needed to keep the #s even.
It's a bad substitute in all respects, but they don't realize that!
Two women in a stable relationship could adopt children so they have a better upbringing than anything the state could provide... artificial insemination or just a drunken fling could easily result in one or both women having children if they want to.