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    Su-30 for Russian Air Force

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:31 pm

    Russian Knights complete transition to the Su-30SM. And why the 30SM chosen over the 35;

    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170322/1490557116.html
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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:36 am

    Probably availability... it is easier to tie up a dozen Su-30s than to use a dozen Su-35s for the job.

    Can't wait until they transition to PAK FAs... Smile
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:32 pm

    GarryB wrote:Probably availability... it is easier to tie up a dozen Su-30s than to use a dozen Su-35s for the job.

    Can't wait until they transition to PAK FAs...  Smile
    No, they chose it because it is a two seater.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:08 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Probably availability... it is easier to tie up a dozen Su-30s than to use a dozen Su-35s for the job.

    Can't wait until they transition to PAK FAs...  Smile
    No, they chose it because it is a two seater.

    And the production lines are fully running.
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    Post  medo Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:02 am





    Su-30SM in action in Syria.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:37 pm

    No, they chose it because it is a two seater.

    When they started out they had Su-27s and Su-27UBs, with most of their aircraft being single seat Su-27s and only one or two two seaters.

    Their original purpose was to show off the capabilities of the new Soviet fighters... at one stage they were looking at Su-37s...

    Logically they should be flying Su-35s now and in about 5 years PAK FAs...
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    Post  flamming_python Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:39 am

    GarryB wrote:Probably availability... it is easier to tie up a dozen Su-30s than to use a dozen Su-35s for the job.

    Can't wait until they transition to PAK FAs...  Smile

    They're still a full-fledged battle-ready fighter regiment just like every other.. plus they're the top guns of the Russian AF. So trying to save money at their expense wouldn't make sense; might as well give the best of the best and let them get acquainted with it.
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    Post  George1 Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:42 pm

    MOSCOW, April 12. / TASS /. Two multi-purpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in April. This was announced by Igor Dygalo, the representative of the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the Navy.

    "In the last decade of April, two multipurpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation Navy as part of the rearmament of the assault aviation units and units." The ceremony will take place at the Irkutsk Aircraft Plant airfield, "said Dygalo.

    It is planned that by the state contract till the end of 2017 three more Su-30SM aircraft will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Navy.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4175198

    So 5 in total Su-30SMs for the Navy in 2017. Mark the number franco!
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    Post  ATLASCUB Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:24 pm

    Love the paint scheme. Looks more "professional". Air force scheme is yuck!

    Won't be long before these beauties start making the press buzzing American destroyers. Su-24s don't give anyone shivers, no offense. Now this shark....perfect for shock effect - the press will love it as well.
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    Post  Isos Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:06 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:Love the paint scheme. Looks more "professional". Air force scheme is yuck!

    Won't be long before these beauties start making the press buzzing American destroyers. Su-24s don't give anyone shivers, no offense. Now this shark....perfect for shock effect - the press will love it as well.

    There were pictures of US su-27 dogfighting a F-16 over the US desert, the F-16 was hard to see while the Su-27 was like a sun visible at very long distances. Their paint must really change and fast. The grey paint of the Rafale is the best IMO.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:37 pm

    Isos wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:Love the paint scheme. Looks more "professional". Air force scheme is yuck!

    Won't be long before these beauties start making the press buzzing American destroyers. Su-24s don't give anyone shivers, no offense. Now this shark....perfect for shock effect - the press will love it as well.

    There were pictures of US su-27 dogfighting a F-16 over the US desert, the F-16 was hard to see while the Su-27 was like a sun visible at very long distances. Their paint must really change and fast. The grey paint of the Rafale is the best IMO.

    Pretty sure those Su-27s have been repainted multiple times - highly likely in the U.S as well.
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:23 pm

    George1 wrote:
    MOSCOW, April 12. / TASS /. Two multi-purpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in April. This was announced by Igor Dygalo, the representative of the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the Navy.

    "In the last decade of April, two multipurpose Su-30SM fighters will be transferred to the Naval Aviation Navy as part of the rearmament of the assault aviation units and units." The ceremony will take place at the Irkutsk Aircraft Plant airfield, "said Dygalo.

    It is planned that by the state contract till the end of 2017 three more Su-30SM aircraft will be transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Navy.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4175198

    So 5 in total Su-30SMs for the Navy in 2017. Mark the number franco!

    So this mean 22 Su-30SM in 2017. 17 for VKS and 5 for NAVY.
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    Post  franco Wed May 03, 2017 8:26 pm

    Kursk pilots trained on Su-30SM, to start operations by end of year;

    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170503/1493587319.html
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    Post  franco Mon May 22, 2017 10:11 pm

    Next unit converting to Su-30SM is getting ready to pick up their new aircraft;

    https://rg.ru/2017/05/22/reg-cfo/kurskie-letchiki-nachali-priem-sverhmanevrennyh-istrebitelej.html
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    Post  franco Sun May 28, 2017 12:12 pm

    First two Su-30SM's for the Navy this year;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2632515.html

    According to the article this makes 17 out of 28 delivered with 3 more scheduled for this year. Leaves 8 going into 2018.
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    Post  George1 Sun May 28, 2017 3:15 pm

    franco wrote:First two Su-30SM's for the Navy this year;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2632515.html

    According to the article this makes 17 out of 28 delivered with 3 more scheduled for this year. Leaves 8 going into 2018.

    These 17 are assigned:

    • 12 to the 43rd separate sea assault aviation regiment of the aviation of the Black Sea Fleet in Saki (Crimea)


    • 3 to the 72nd aviation base of the Baltic Fleet aviation at the Chernyakhovsk airfield (Kaliningrad region)


    • 2 to the  279th separate naval fighter air regiment of the Northern fleet, at the Severomorsk-3 airfield


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    Post  franco Sun May 28, 2017 4:47 pm

    Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)
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    Post  medo Sun May 28, 2017 5:51 pm

    I think NAVY will order more Su-30SM. They also need them in Pacific fleet and most probably they will equip full squadron of Su-30SM in Northern fleet.
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    Post  George1 Sun May 28, 2017 9:07 pm

    franco wrote:Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)

    Yes you are right. I fixed it. These 4 in Severomorsk whats their role actually there?
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    Post  franco Sun May 28, 2017 10:49 pm

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:Check your math Smile

    Beginning to look like the 28 may be assigned like this;

    12 - Saki
    12 - Chernyakhovsk
    4 - Severomorsk-3 (flying with the remaining Su-33)

    Yes you are right. I fixed it. These 4 in Severomorsk whats their role actually there?

    1. They are 2-seaters so some training.
    2. With the remaining Su-33 gives a northern Naval Aviation Attack unit.
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:42 am

    The 14th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment received the first two Su-30SM fighters russia

    On June 3, 2017, the first two multi-purpose Su-30SM fighter aircraft arrived in the composition of the 14th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 105th Mixed Air Division of the 6th Leningrad Red Banner Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Western Military District at the airfield Khalino (Kursk), marking thus the beginning of the actual rearmament of the regiment with the "Algerian" fighters MiG-29SMT currently on its armament for the Su-30SM fighters. Both the arriving Su-30SM fighters with the red airborne numbers "71" and "72" built the Irkutsk Aviation Plant of the PJSC "Irkut Corporation" made an independent flight to Khalino from Irkutsk within 2 -3 June.

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    These aircraft were built by the IAZ in the framework of the State Defense Order of 2017, and became the second batch of SU-30SM fighters transferred to the Russian Defense Ministry in 2017 - earlier in late May two Su-30SM fighters with blue 71 and 72 Serial numbers were transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy and became part of the 72nd aviation base of the Baltic Fleet aviation at the Chernyakhovsk airfield (Kaliningrad Region).

    In total, since 2012, 116 Su-30SM aircraft have been contracted for the Ministry of Defense of Russia, of which 88 are intended for the Russian Air Force (VCS), and another 28 for the Navy of the Russian Navy. To date, the Russian Air Force under the signed contracts thus obtained 68 Su-30SM fighters (of which 10 in 2016 and the two new ones in Khalino in 2017), and Marine Aviation - 17 (of which seven in 2016 and two in 2017).

    The plans for the rearmament of the 14th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (two-squadron convoy) from the MiG-29SMT fighters to Su-30SM fighters became known in 2016. In November, it was officially announced that the pilots of the 14th regiment arrived at the 4th Training and Retraining Center in Lipetsk for retraining for Su-30SM fighters.

    In an official message from the ZVO press service on the arrival of the first two Su-30SM in the 14th Aviation Regiment, it is said that "the fleet of the military unit will be fully re-equipped before the end of the year." In total, the regiment will include six more Su-30SM fighters. " Judging by the well-known IAZ production plans for 2017, the statement about the "complete rearmament of the end of the year" of the 14th regiment is premature, and by "shipments of 6 more Su-30SM fighters", implies the receipt by the 14th Regiment before the end of 2017, of another 12 aircraft.

    It can be assumed that the MiG-29SMT fighters, freed from the re-equipment of the 14th regiment, having a small age, will go to manning any new aviation regiment.





    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2648498.html
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    Post  franco Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:38 pm

    Two more Su-30SM for Kursk;

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95599/

    NOTE: still no information on the plans for the Mig-29SMT's based there.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:22 pm

    Is it possisble, by mix technology from Spphir 25 (Mig-25 radar of 400kW) and the Bar-R, to make a PESA with 400KW power and new processing to reach ranges of 700-800 km ?

    Irbis Is 20kW so a 400kW radar won't have probleme with this ranges. An AESA with 400 kW will have heat problems, they already have cooling issues with 10 kW power. So let's consider a PESA.

    Su-30 is a double seat so the rear man can use it at its limit and they wouldn't care about being detected by EW as the range would be big enough to stay out of the range of any fighter.

    Because of its RCS it will be spotted at max distance for every new radar so they should make it just for RAW POWER; powerfull radar, powerfull engines and put bigger missiles like a 250km R-77 and a 500 Km R-37.

    In terms of ECM it would destroy any seeker of any missile lunched at him.
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    Post  medo Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:02 pm



    Interesting video of RuNAVY Su-30SM launching Kh-29T missile against target on the sea surface. It also show video picture of the target from OLS.
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    Post  George1 Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:22 pm

    Upgraded Su-30SM1 fighter

    As the newspaper "Izvestia" reports in the article of Dmitry Litovkin and Alexei Ramm "The thirty" has reached the next level. The super-maneuverable Su-30SM fighter will receive fifth-generation weapons, "the Russian Defense Ministry and the Irkut Corporation are completing the modernization of the super-maneuverable Su-30SM fighter. He will be given the Su-30SM1 index. Improvements will affect on-board radio-electronic equipment, and aircraft will be able to use the latest high-precision ammunition. According to experts, the updated "drying" in its capabilities will equal the fifth-generation combat vehicles.

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    As "Izvestia" was told in the command of the Air and Space Forces, the modernization of the Su-30SM takes into account the experience of daily and combat operation of fighters. Updated "drying" will receive a number of improvements in the field of on-board radio electronic equipment, as well as an expanded range of precision munitions. Several machines have already been modernized. The United Aircraft Corporation confirmed that the work was underway, but declined to comment further.

    Military expert Anton Lavrov told Izvestia that if a single digit is added to the name of the car, then most likely it's about adding new types of ammunition to the nomenclature of the fighter used by the weapon.

    "Su-30SM is a very good car," the expert said. - In the case of SM1, it may be about adding new suspension survey systems and integrating additional weapons. It can be assumed that the updated fighters will have the opportunity to apply the corrected KAB-250 air bombs, as well as the X-59MK2 air-to-surface missiles.

    The KAB-250 bomb has a modular design and can be equipped with high-precision satellite and laser guidance systems. The product was created in response to the development of US controlled air bombs of the SDB (Small Diameter Bomb) family. They are equipped with American fighters of the fifth generation F-22 and F-35. KAB-250 with a laser aiming head and high-explosive fragmentation warhead is designed to defeat unarmored equipment, railway junctions, warehouses and other enemy facilities. The air bomb can be used either singly or by volley from an aircraft equipped with on-board laser target designators, as well as with external illumination of targets from the ground.

    X-59MK2 - further development of the Kh-59 missile. The latter was intended to destroy surface targets such as "boat" or "ship". In the MK2 variant, the possibility of destroying low-contrast ground-based stationary targets with pre-explored coordinates was added to these capabilities. The missile belongs to the class of high-precision aviation weapons, acting on the principle of "shot-forget".

    The Su-30SM fighter is the latest modification of the most mass-produced Russian multipurpose Su-30 fighter of the "4 ++" generation. This is the first machine with super maneuverability. These qualities were obtained by the fighter thanks to the highly effective integral aerodynamic scheme of the airframe, the control system for the thrust vector of the AL-31FP engines, as well as the front horizontal empennage. Thanks to the onboard "Bars" radar, the pilot can use weapons in a maneuverable flight at a long range. At the same time, simultaneously attack one air and one ground targets.

    The aircraft is able to apply the entire spectrum of modern and advanced high-precision weapons of the air-to-air and air-to-surface class. Fly without refueling and suspension tanks up to 3 thousand km. During a recent visit to the Irkutsk Aviation Plant (IAZ) Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said that in 2017 VCS is expecting the delivery of 17 new Su-30SM fighters.

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