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    Su-30 for Russian Air Force

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    Post  mack8 Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:15 pm

    First 3 Su-30SM handed over (or to be handed over very soon?) to the VMF's Black Sea Fleet! Another 2 in acceptance trials. They go straight to Gvardeyskoye, replacing the old Su-24s there, right?
    Also IAPO plans to deliver the planned aircraft (just Su-30SM or the Yaks too?) for this year by Nov. 15, ahead of schedule.
    http://itar-tass.com/politika/1326912
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    Post  mack8 Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:09 pm

    VMF Su-30SM! (from 07:00- borts 35,36,37)
    http://vesti.irk.ru/watch/166244/
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    Post  Viktor Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:51 pm

    mack8 wrote:VMF Su-30SM! (from 07:00- borts 35,36,37)
    http://vesti.irk.ru/watch/166244/

    You where saying Very Happy

    Irkutsk aircraft factory gave the Ministry of Defence 5 new Su-30cm
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    Post  medo Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:46 pm

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    I for long time wonder why Su-34 and Su-30SM doesn't have MAWS sensors. But I find this picture of Eurofighter, which use radar type of MAWS, not IR or UV type. Considering new Flankers use new RWR sensors on wings and tails, older spaces are now free to install similar radar type MAWS complex and Su-35 most probably have both radar and IR type of MAWS to be even more secure against incoming missiles in case of jamming or bad visual condition. Su-34 and Su-30SM are not stealth planes, so radar type MAWS, which not see that far away, will not compromise them.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:04 pm

    Actually there are no Eurofighters with MAWS in service only "Tranche 4" model aircrafts which are unpurchased so far have them, same as IRST.
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    Post  medo Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:31 pm

    The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:55 pm

    medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.

    I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.
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    Post  medo Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:33 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    medo wrote:The picture show British Typhoon FGR4. I don't know, if this is tranche 4 Eurofighter. However, position of MMW pulse doppler MAWS radars in Eurofighter in the wing leading edge and in the back, indicate, that new Flankers (SU-27SM, Su-30M2, Su-30SM and Su-34) could use similar MAWS complex in their wing leading edges and in their stings as they have new RWR sensors on the wings and on tails. If they don't have optical MAWS sensors, that doesn't necessary mean they don't have any.

    I'm not really convienced by radar based MAWS, i doubt they can outperforme optical UV/IR spectrum MAWS which have about 15km+ detection range, i doubt those little pulse doppler radar sensors have enough power to beat 15km and ATAM missilse are freakish fast and you need all time you can get and the earlier you detect a threat the more time you have to react.

    Difficult to say. Radar based MAWS could not be compromised by any weather condition and work equally day and night. In my opinion it could be same effective as IR/UV MAWS. Maybe they are just easier to install in places of older RWRs in Flankers.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:46 am

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Russian Air Force received a new batch of Su-30M2

    mack you spoke of something like this happening few days ago. Any numbers?
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    Post  mack8 Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:40 am

    The insiders were mentioning about borts 70, 91, 92, 93 being transferred to VVS soon, but only bort 70 was confirmed as a Su-30M2. It wasn't clear if the other 3 were also M2 or perhaps Su-27SM3. Perhaps all four are M2s after all?

    PS: Looks like there are 4 Su-30M2 delivered today, bringing the total so far to 12.
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    Post  mack8 Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:49 pm

    Here they are, all are Su-30M2 indeed. Very Happy 
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    Post  medo Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:47 pm

    I suppose red 70 will go to Krymsk, while blue 91, 92 and 93 will serve in far East regiments.
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    Post  mack8 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:39 pm

    The rumour mill goes that 70 will indeed go to Krymsk, but 91, 92, 93 might go to Belbek in Crimea (which will also allegedly host Su-27SMs).Smile

    Btw, i know there are some VVS Su-27Ps detached to Crimea, does anyone have a link to images of them, and any other details, like how many (there should be 20 by the end of the year, but how many are there now), what regiment are they from etc.
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    Post  mack8 Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:06 pm

    The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.
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    Post  medo Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:06 pm

    mack8 wrote:The proverbial rumour mill goes that 2 new Su-30SM, red 24 and 25 have been transferred to Domna few days ago.

    I hope there will soon be some pictures of them.
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    Post  medo Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:04 pm

    Anyone know, if those new Su-30SM and Su-35 in Domna and Dzemgi air bases have or will get hangars for them, or will be stored outside? They are expensive and have sensitive electronics, so it will be good to store them in warm and dry places, when not active.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:55 am

    They have talked about upgrading a lot of airfields, so I would suspect they will upgrade fields with new and upgraded aircraft to protect their investment.
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    Post  medo Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:44 pm

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    This photo is from Su-30SM cockpit. I would like to ask what is the function of LCD display system on the left side panel? Is it for autopilot programing? For control of on-board systems? The same LCD have WSO in right side panel.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:41 am

    Being a multi function display it could be used for a range of things... fuel management, weapon management, navigation... the position suggests it would be information that is not critical all the time but something that needs to be checked from time to time... like weapon information... preparing weapons for launch, or for navigation, or engine or fuel management...
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    Post  mack8 Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:51 pm

    Domna Su-30SMs:
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    Post  Mike E Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:50 am

    Nice find! Always nice to see the SUs in action.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:01 pm

    3 Su-30SM and 3 Yak-130 delivered to RuAF

    Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-30cm and Yak-130
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    Post  mack8 Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:39 pm

    Great news, the number of Su-30SMs delivered should be rapidly heading towards 30 by now (i lost count!)?. Unfortunately, the Yak-130 deliveries seems way behind schedule this year, hope they can somewhat catch up if possible.
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    Post  mack8 Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:01 pm

    Thanks to Berkut, here they are, Su-30SM are borts 21, 23, 26. Can't see the Yak-130 borts though.
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    Post  medo Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:08 pm

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    I wonder how many Su-30SM were already delivered this year? On the photo we could see red 17, 18 and 19. I think IAPO plan to deliver 21 Su-30SM this year.

    Maybe it is just me, but Su-30SM really remind me on F-14.


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