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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:34 am

    They're all outside Russia. The minute they try to 'inject themselves', as you put it, if that takes the form of physically coming here, then they will be met at the airport by the FSB.

    One of the most absurd shows in this whole freakshow circus was some sort of session with Kasparov.
    A guy who is a nobody at this point.
    He was assisted by a bunch of other losers, of which I could hardly recognize one single face, because I remember seeing him a few times at Soloviov show.
    He proved to be a rare sort of dumbass there, but anyway ...
    This whole herd of clowns was sitting on a stage, discussing how heavily pressed is Russia, and how it must be freed from the chains of Putins' regime.
    In the background, there was a map of a whole Euro-Asiatic landmass of the Russian Federation, partitioned into multiple smaller areas with funny names on them.
    Technically speaking this sort of shit is being considered as an act of treason by any single country I know.
    In some of those - it is being a constitutional scale of treason.

    Yet they are not shy in that, being assisted by a bunch of shitstream media and yapping of how they defend the core values and democracy...

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:38 pm

    Bring a bunch of Mexicans and Indians (Natives) to Russia and let them discuss the partition of the US.
    Or the return of land to Mexico. Western MSM would have a mental meltdown.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:27 pm

    @flaming

    When I say inject, it's more aimed at their influence and money to their assets within Russia.

    It's really a case to keep extreme eyes on exactly who they are communicating within the country

    @hole

    That would be a great way to troll the west. Even get aboriginals from both US and Canada over and create a decolonization of USA group in Russia.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:01 am

    But it is not serious.
    Russia does not bother doing stupidities for publicity.
    This is why they are being considered seriously by everybody other than the US and its vassal states.
    One more thing I find as hilarious at this point is how much the western propaganda is deluding itself.
    Putin is called a man of word by every single political figure who dealt with him at any point.
    It was a common opinion shared by Bush Jr., Schroeder, Berlusconi, Chirac, Xi, Modi ...
    As long as the west was ruled by people with any sort of values - they cooperated.
    Every single high-ranked official in the last 25 years confirms that Russian politics is stable, predictable, and can be trusted.
    Deals were being kept.
    Yet they are trying to portray the opposite Laughing Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:27 am

    One of the most absurd shows in this whole freakshow circus was some sort of session with Kasparov.
    A guy who is a nobody at this point.

    That is a common problem in the west, where a vocal "expert" gets a say on things in fields where they are not experts.

    Kasparovs thoughts and opinions might be valid in a discussion about chess, but his views on anything else are no longer an expert opinion... they are just an opinion.

    You could say the same for various famous people this US election who decided to tell us who we should vote for... which is especially galling when many were actually paid to do this, meaning it is acting work and not even the views of the person.

    They were just reading a script and getting paid.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:15 am

    Some of those self proclaimed tribunes of the people are hardly recognizable in Russia Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:42 pm

    Exactly, they have become famous in the west for one thing and then become the media darling for the other thing most popular in the west.... shitting on Putin and Russia.
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    Post  lyle6 Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:10 am

    They're called lolcows. Only the west is so fucked up these shitheads fit right in within the political mainstream.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:47 pm

    Here is an example how foreign entities (banks and what not) operate in countries like Kazakhstan:

    🇰🇿🇷🇺🇺🇿 Colleagues from the DTM channel drew attention to a new episode involving the former head of the information policy department of the Presidential Administration of Uzbekistan, Komil Allamjonov . Now the AIRAN publication is talking about the “Russian trace” and the role of “evil Chechens” in the failed assassination attempt.

    This is the same office that promotes Kazakh nationalism, criticizes Russia, and says that Orenburg is a city belonging to Kazakhstan. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) is behind their financing.

    The EBRD itself has already firmly established itself in Central Asia , investing in various projects throughout the post-Soviet space. Moreover, all this is done on the basis of providing loans to such structures as Kaspi Bank , which is precisely the one financing AIRAN.
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    So, the authors of AIRAN report that the Russian special services were waiting for a convenient opportunity to create an internal political split between the ruling factions in Uzbekistan, which is why an attempt was made on Allomjonov’s life.

    As is usually the case, the publication did not provide any evidence or a reasoned point of view, guided by the principle “this will do.”

    🔻But the situation itself is quite surprising. Allomzhonov first screwed up with the staging, then tried to blame Ramzan Kadyrov for everything, then those who stand behind him tried to carry out an anti-crisis in the Russian segment, and now the Kazakh grant-eaters have gotten involved.

    And all this in order to discredit Russia and whitewash the already sunk reputation of the former conductor of Western interests in Uzbekistan, who actively promoted what the West needed, not Uzbekistan. For which reason he was fired.
    #Казахстан #Россия #СредняяАзия #Узбекистан
    @rybar

    So what can we gather from this?

    European and western Bank entities are active in post Soviet countries to promote both anti Russian rhetoric and even territorial claims.

    In this regard, this proves 2 things:

    1) Russia had to be active in countering these people. Even to the tune of removing their ability to operate in said countries.  Plenty of ways to do it and it will require intelligence services.

    2) copy same tactic.  This kind of soft power is powerful. People on average are extremely stupid. Especially those in post Soviet countries in the caucuses.  Threy are borderline retarded.  And because of that, they are exceptionally easy to convince of multitude of things (1) false nationalism (2) rewriting history (3) religious extremism even if it is evident it leads to servitude (4) terrorism at home or abroad.

    So with that, Russia needs to take the initiative and set up their own "development" banks that can flood into the countries to provide "loans" at same time fund regional banks to set up media assets that promote a Russian point of view.

    This is really only way Russia will keep these nations as friendly. Having a friendly leader will only go so far.  Eventually they go.

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