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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:30 pm

    Kommersant is the source?

    I would wait till non yellow journalism reports it and not citing kommersant.
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    Post  Visc Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:44 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Kommersant is the source?

    I would wait till non yellow journalism reports it and not citing kommersant.

    I tend to agree but it is interesting that RT picked up on it. Hoping for the best.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:34 pm


    Something definitely happened

    Hopefully this was result of process of supervising staff so they caught it in time and nothing big left the house

    It would definitely be idiotic to not keep staff working on something like this under close supervision and surveillance

    But given how clumsy the whole thing is unfolding it's just as possible that they simply let them communicate with whomever they wanted without anyone keeping tabs on them
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:47 am

    I wonder what they will do if they find they have another Adolph Tolkachev in the house? Russia doesn't do capital punishment anymore, but life imprisonment and a diet of cockroaches doesn't seem adequate....
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:17 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:I wonder what they will do if they find they have another Adolph Tolkachev in the house? Russia doesn't do capital punishment anymore, but life imprisonment and a diet of cockroaches doesn't seem adequate....

    Trivialities

    What matters is that they find him/them, it's paramount

    As for what comes later don't worry about it and Google "Black Dolphin" (way worse than death and inferior only to Japanese prison)
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:22 am

    RT isn't necessarily bastion of honesty all the time either.

    I doubt anything huge got leaked.  After what happened in the past, majority of these are broken down between groups so that not 1 person excluding manager has access to all data.  It would be rather easy to boil down who leaked what.  The rest would be rather unimportant because it is little details that would have been leaked.

    Sucks that it happened if true, but these days, they have precautions in place.  We do here for sure and I know for fact.

    What they will do is put everyone under heavy watch and limit their movement until investigation is over. I imagine someone is going to lose their job, even if they are technically innocent too (that would be upper manager), which is a common practice. But since they are still going head with the development and procurement of the Avangard, guarantee the leak was very minimal. But still unfortunate. The act is being treated as treason, which comes as a very harsh punishment in Russia.

    https://vpk.name/news/221976_utechka_dannyih_o_rossiiskom_giperzvukovom_oruzhii_glavnoe.html
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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:10 am

    Or its just a trick to let the other side think the data they got is real.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:17 am

    Hole wrote:Or its just a trick to let the other side think the data they got is real.

    Maybe,, maybe not.

    What are the contents that are leaked?
    How much was leaked?
    Which system exactly?

    How I see it is that if it was very sensitive, they would halt production of any kind of such hypersonic system, make adjustments (subtle or not), enough to make the leak pointless - See MiG-31's defector and how they made adjustments to the radar that made the information gained pointless.

    Since they are going ahead with production, means what was leaked isn't detrimental. But the leak is a problem and someone will end up getting arrested for it.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:24 am

    http://tass.com/science/1014427

    Someone was arrested and they suspect 9 more.
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    Post  Austin Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:31 pm

    A Spy who is caught is better than a spy who is not caught , So good job FSB of catching these spies and hopefully they can plug this leak for good and fix what got leaked.

    I remember reading 2 Professor associated with Bulava program was caught spying for CHinese and they were subsequently imprisoned
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    Post  Austin Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:14 pm

    Russia DIDN'T hack German election' - new report DISPELS reports of Putin meddling

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/993893/Russia-German-election-Merkel
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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:37 pm

    Still the report claims that most russians are evil hackers. Coming to you from the same department that stood by and watched as a few nazis killed ten people (maybe even more) in Germany.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:54 am

    Actually often spies are useful idiots... for instance the MiG-25P was a serious upgrade that only got into service because Belenko compromised the older model.

    The upgrades to the MiG-31 were also largely because secret information was passed on to the west that might not otherwise have been funded.

    When I first read about this leak my initial thoughts was that it might be a release of test information that might have been intentional because there was a lot of skepticism regarding these new weapons and a bit of spy information on successful tests might have firmed up thoughts that this is all real and not just smoke and mirrors.

    Who knows.
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:35 am

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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:47 am

    Claim they are white helmets and send them to France.
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    Post  George1 Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:18 pm

    Russia’s SVR declassifies documents on cooperation of Russia-UK special services

    Naryshkin handed a package of documents and photos to TV host Sergei Brilev

    MOSCOW, October 6. /TASS/. Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has declassified documents on interaction of Soviet and British special services during World War Two, SVR Head Sergey Naryshkin said in a televised interview with Rossiya-1 channel on Saturday.

    Naryshkin handed a package of documents and photos to TV host Sergei Brilev.

    "It is a joint operation with the Britons, called "Pickaxe", conducted during the Second World War. We have made public a number of archive documents about participants in that operation, about illegal agents of the Soviet intelligence agency, who represented different countries, were of different ethnic backgrounds, but who were united with a common idea of battling Nazism," he said.

    Asked by Brilev if Russia could overcome the current crisis in the Russian-British relations, Naryshkin said: "Of course, we will. Any war always ends in peace.".


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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:12 am

    Unfortunately there needs to be the will on both sides for it to happen... and right now the general wind direction is you can get easy cheap points being anti Russian... it does not even need to make sense because it confirms what the western public is told from other sources...

    Imagine Boris as next British Prime Minister... in charge of nuclear weapons...
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:27 pm

    Article about history of GRU

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3401674.html
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:22 pm

    Something really strange and bad ,happens to Austria . the major ally in EUrope ,Russia had ,
    is now accusing Russia of spying on Austria for 20 years.. and instead of consulting things through
    Diplomatic channels , made it public in the media.. and is now speaking of major meeting with EU ,
    to find the next step to follow ,how to deal with Russia after this "unpleasant surprise".




    Putin "the Wise" told that sports promote good relations , i don't see any good relations
    between Europe and Russia , if even the closest allies of Russia ,is using the media to demonize
    Putin and Russia..  Russia spent near $ 65,000,000,000 billion dollars ,hosting pointless olympics,
    in trying to promote good relations with Europe , to advertise the image of Russia ,and all that money
    was a total waste .. it did nothing . zero . to promote any good relations.. americans actually found a way
    to use the vents to discredit Russia of cheating in the results and Russia got humiliated with the banning
    of many players.. Putin strategy to counter the west.. was all about modernizing the military and nothing else. No
    For sure US and UK pressured Austria to invent the story they told.  blackmail. perhaps with sanctions on Austria if not cooperate with them..


    This is Russia biggest problem.. the #1 problem .. is not ISIS ,is not terrorism.. or the 5th column..in no the central bank or Traitors.  and is neither NATO. the major problem is Putin/Russia lack of influence and leadership in the world. something Russia could have done ,had it created its own System ,and not allowed US to lead the world ,in most important areas of  development. In things nobody could do before.. and makes nations to stand above all others.

    and things like this will happen over and over and over.. Russia accused of Criminal behavior or hacking or cheating or receiving sanctions left ,center and right .. and Russian bases attacked.. and Russian military planes will continue to fall because the west and its allies does not respect Russia. So the question is how can Russia earn respect back.. the answer is ,it will not be begging or crying.or praising or being polite ,.or promoting sports ,
    as Putin have done. Putin's Russia will only earn Respect ,when start to offer a real alternative to the American system and their leading business. and take the lead in space.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:38 am

    Hahahaha... like the EU does not spy on Russia... the Skripals are proof enough that they do... and it is just juvenile to state that Russia spying on the EU is not acceptable.... the Fucking US spies on the EU... why wouldn't Russia do it?
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    Post  dino00 Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:02 pm

    https://youtu.be/ipsdUrmCdVI
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    Post  Hole Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:07 pm

    Bat cave. russia
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:23 am

    dino00 wrote:https://youtu.be/ipsdUrmCdVI

    Very good report..

    So the U.S economic sanctions on Japan.. by unintentional reasons ,
    ended helping Russia , after the japanese divert their attention to Americans..
    after originally they intended to invade the far east of Russia. Smile

    Something that allowed soviets send major reinforcements from the east
    to the western front. and tipped the tide of the war.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:04 am

    Their defeat at the hands of Zhukov in Mongolia is what made them turn away from Siberia and look south for oil and materials... they thought the Soviets would be easier to defeat than the colonial powers of France and the UK and the US.

    After a bit the Germans asked the Japanese to open a second front in the far east to relieve pressure on their forces in the eastern front, but after finding out about the Rippentrop Molotov pact the Japanese decided not to trust the Germans... that is what prevented the second front...
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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:42 am

    Russia’s FSB carries out massive operation against Jehovah’s Witnesses in Crimea

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