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    Post  TR1 Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:54 am

    Reallly wishful thinking by Antonov in that article.

    Superjet has clearly surged ahead of the An-148 family.
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:31 am

    State defence orders posted few pages earlier gurantees 30 An-148 and 35 SSJ

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    Post  a89 Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:20 pm

    Reallly wishful thinking by Antonov in that article.

    Superjet has clearly surged ahead of the An-148 family.

    Serial production seems to be a huge problem in Ukraine. I also assume that due to political issues, it would be very hard for Antonov to join UAC.

    I don't think it was mentioned here, but it looks like the end of the road for TAPO:

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/496166.html
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    Post  Austin Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:01 pm

    Ministry of Industry and sent for approval to the state order for aviaproduktsiyu by 324 billion rubles

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade (Ministry of Industry) has sent for approval to the draft of the state order for the supply of 123 aircraft and 224 helicopters for a total of 324 billion rubles. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade Yuri Slusar.

    "At the moment, prepared and submitted for approval to the executive authorities of the project routines of our overall program of development of the aviation industry on" Consolidation of the state order, "which provides for the delivery of public services to the needs of 123 aircraft and 224 helicopters for a total amount of about 324 billion rubles." - he said.

    According Yu.Slyusarya output aviaproduktsii since 2002. by 2012. increased 3 times - up to 579 billion rubles. (It was 195 billion rubles.). The number of aircraft delivered in 2012. to 102 units, and helicopters - 190 pieces. The total amount of budget financing in the period since 2002. by 2012. increased by 29 times. Together, during this period the development of the industry has been allocated 462 billion rubles.

    Deputy Minister also added that Russian aircraft manufacturers chronically perform plan production technology.

    "The chronic failure to comply with the stated plans of our development strategy up to 2015." - Yu.Slyusar said, noting that in 2012. 10 were produced IL-96 (15 planned), 31 Tu-204 (69 planned), 4 Be-200 aircraft (planned 18).

    "Perfectly understandable motivation for all of us to sign a contract in the hungry 90 - contracting on any terms. But this ideology and moved in the 2000s. Unfortunately, we have to admit that now we need a sober look at our options for the implementation of existing contracts and the signing of new ones, "- he stressed.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:55 am

    The reality is that government military orders is what will revive the Russian civilian airliner market... just like it heavily subsidises the western companies too.

    The challenge is for them not to squander the opportunity.
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    Post  Austin Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:11 am

    I agree 124 aircraft and 224 helicopter is a big deal and once it gets approved it should boost aircraft production in Russia ....but hopefully it can rectify the production bottle neck.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:15 pm

    A plane is made up of millions of parts and components are brought together from a wide range of companies to just make one.

    The problem is that if you have no hard orders then you are pretty much custom building each plane, which is enormously expensive and slow.

    Get a Government order for 200 aircraft and all of a sudden you have something you can take to a bank manager and say... give me 20 million roubles, I want to expand my factory and order lots of components from subcontractors. Without that order, you will not get the money and without that money you can't expand your production capacity.

    Worse, if you spend your own money preparing for production orders that never come, you will be in the poor house or prison.

    Production management requires a balancing act... enough production capacity to meet requirements as they come up and as they change. Too much production capacity is expensive, not enough will cause penalty clauses to be used and creates a bad reputation.

    Like I said... solid orders from the government is what is needed to create and expand production capacity... and once production starts other users will take advantage of the fact that it is already in production to make orders and get their aircraft cheaper.


    Much like the Russian Navy did with the Indian order for Mig-29Ks... it just makes sense.
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    Post  Austin Thu May 09, 2013 8:08 pm

    Update on PD-14

    http://www.avid.ru/eng/advanced-developments/pd-14_/
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    Post  Austin Tue May 14, 2013 6:21 pm

    India plans to buy aircraft MS-21


    SC "Corporation" Irkut "has signed an agreement of intent with the Indian company AirExcellance to supply 21 MS-21, the report said corporation for the I quarter.

    The press service of the Russian company told "Interfax" that the agreement signed in 2012, but it has not been announced as AirExcellance is at the stage of "start-up". "The decision to sign a solid contract will depend on the success of the Indian company", - the Russian company.

    The report also notes that customers MS-21 are eight companies that have ordered 256 aircraft. In particular, customers are Malaysian company CRECOM - 50 units, a subsidiary of the corporation "Rostekhnadzor" - "Aviakapital service" - 85, "Ilyushin FinansKo" - 50 "North Wind" - 5 "VEB-Leasing" - 30, "IrAero" - 10, AirExcellance - 21. Another five aircraft ordered by the Customer from the CIS, whose name was not disclosed.

    MC-21 program involves the creation of a family of short-haul and medium-haul passenger aircraft. It will include three models: MC-200-21, MC-21 and MC-300-21 with a capacity of 400, respectively 150, 181 and 212 for single-class passengers cabin layout.

    The first flight is scheduled for 2015, and the first deliveries of aircraft operators to begin in 2017.
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    Post  TR1 Tue May 14, 2013 10:38 pm

    Superb news.

    Wrong thread however Very Happy
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    Post  Austin Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:48 pm

    Why wrong Thread TR1 ?
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    Post  Austin Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:48 pm

    Russia Attempts to Boost Irkut MC-21 Airliner Prospects

    Illyushin Finance Gets Approval For CSeries, MC-21 and Superjet Acquisitions

    Russia Has Sights Set On Global Helicopter Scene

    Sukhoi Superjet Range Boost Is Attempt To Increase Sales
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    Post  Austin Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:41 pm

    Finally Tu-204SM is certified , now the order book needs to be filled .....SM looks promising as it has many new for Russian Civil Aircraft

    Tu-204SM certificated

    May 2013 finally witnessed the completion of the certification of the Tupolev Tu-204SM upgraded medium-haul airliner, with Tupolev having received Supplement Type Certificate CT233-Tu-204-120CE/D10 dated 31 May 2013, issued by the IAC Aircraft Registry. The certification trials had involved two prototypes built by the Aviastar plant in Ulyanovsk – side number 64150, which first flew on 29 December 2010, and 64151, which maiden flight took place on 3 August 2011. They had logged about 400 flights altogether and undergone an extensive ground test programme.


    The upgraded Tu-204SM is much different from the production-standard Tu-204-100 earlier built by Aviastar. First of all, it is powered by 16,000-kgf PS-90A2 turbofan engines developed by Perm-based Aviadvigatel JSC assisted by Pratt & Whitney. The IAC Aircraft Registry certificated the PS-90A2 in December 2009. Unlike the production-standard PS-90A, the modified engine is fitted with an advanced high-pressure turbine, a sophisticated automatic control system and several other considerable improvements enabling it to meet the present-day international airworthiness and environment friendliness requirements. At the same time, there has been a hefty drop in the life cycle cost and an increase in the reliability of the engine. The Tu-204SM also is equipped with the latest auxiliary power unit, the TA-18-200M from Aerosila JSC in the town of Stupino.

    Secondly, the airliner carries a heavily upgraded avionics suite. It has been furnished with the advanced SUOSO aircraft equipment control system, KSEIS-204E integrated display and warning system and VSUPT-85-204 automatic flight/throttle control computer system, and virtually all of the control consoles and panels in the cockpit have been redesigned. Advanced avionics has allowed introduction of new automatic control modes, particularly, Category IIIA automatic landing approach (the Tu-204-100’s avionics allowed only Category II landing approaches), etc. The substantial uograde of the avionics suite has afforded a crew reduction from three to two, axing the flight engineer.

    In addition, the airliner’s empty weight has dropped, and a modified extended-life undercarriage, an up-to-date digitally-controlled air conditioning system and upgraded power supply and lighting systems have been introduced (the incandescent lights are ousted by LEDs, and those in taxi and landing lights are replaced with xenon lamps).

    The estimated assigned life of the Tu-204SM has grown to 60,000 h, 30,000 landings and 25 years of operation (the production-standard Tu-204-100 has 45,000, h, 25,000 landings and 20 years of operation respectively). With a maximum takeoff weight of 105 t, the Tu-204SM carries 194 passengers in the single-class layout with the 810-mm seat pitch or 176 in the two-class layout (12 seats in business class with a pitch of 960 mm and 164 seats in economy class) at a distance of 4,800 km. Its maximum payload has grown from 21 t to 23 t and maximum payload range stands at 3,600 km.

    According to a Tupolev news release, Tu-204SM deliveries are planned to kick off in 2014. However, there has been no news on firm orders for the new airliner. In its annual and financial accounts published at its website, Tupolev reported 41 orders placed by commercial carriers, the largest of which – for 15 units – had been awarded by the Red Wings airline, whose flight operations had to be suspended by Russian civil aviation authorities in February 2013 (the carrier is going to resume flights in June). Other potential customers for the Tu-204SM are VIM-Avia (11 aircraft), Aviastar-TU (5), Vladivostok Avia (6) and Alrosa (3). However, most of them, for a number of reasons, should be treated with a grain of salt, regarding them rather as preliminary ones.

    The consolidated governmental procurement order for advanced domestically-made aircraft, which is being devised now, seems to be far more feasible. According to Tupolev, the order can cover the acquisition of 14 Tu-204SM planes for the Russian Defence Ministry, Ministry of the Interior and Emergencies Ministry. According to the Izvestia daily’s report dated 24 December 2012, the Defence Ministry planned to order 11 Tu-204SMs and the Ministry of the Interior wanted nine.

    At the Congress of the Russian Aircraft Manufacturers on 19 April 2013, Industry and Trade Deputy Minister Yuri Slyusar said a consolidated governmental order, stipulating procurement of a total of 124 planes and 224 helicopters to the tune of 324 billion rubles (over $10 billion) until 2018, has been drafted and forwarded to relevant federal authorities for approval. Therefore, news of the first Tu-204SM orders is likely to come soon.
     
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    Post  Viktor Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:33 am

    20 more SSJ-100 in Sukhoi order book - finally learning to order domestic Very Happy

    Sukhoi, Ilyushin Ink Deal for 20 Superjet Airliners
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    Post  a89 Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:59 pm

    Bad news for SSJ?


    inmeccanica SpA (FNC) said its Superjet regional plane venture with Russia’s Sukhoi must be restructured or abandoned, calling the current arrangement unsatisfactory.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/finmeccanica-says-superjet-pact-must-be-restructured-or-end-1-.html
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:52 am

    And good news for MS-21

    "VEB-Leasing" and "Irkut" entered into an agreement for the supply of thirty-MS-21
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:34 am

    Austin wrote:Why wrong Thread TR1 ?
    I have no idea, looking back on that post.

    Sorry lol! 


    Something to appease my (occasional) lack of sense:

    http://superjet.wikidot.com/news:360

    Some sexy Superjet Interjet pics.
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    Post  Austin Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:43 am

    Sukhoi decision to freeze 130 seater development has cost then dearly with Embraer taking a lead in 100-140 seater development category with big orders 

    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-air-transport-perspective/2013-06-24/embraer-launches-nextgen-e-jets-strong-support

    Meanwhile Superjet is being refined

    http://vpk.name/news/91890_dorabotka_superjet_oboidetsya_v_43_mlrd_rublei.html
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:35 am

    Those orders would never have gone to Superjet though.

    I thought they canned extended version to avoid competition with MS-21.
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    Post  Austin Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:45 am

    MS-21 starts from 150 Seat in MS-21-200 version and goes right up to 230 seat in MS-21-400 version.

    SSJ-130/140 was to bridge the gap between SSJ-100 and MS-21-200.

    They said they would make a decision in 2016 till then it remains frozen ......I hope they build it.

    Now I am waiting for MAKS 2013 for the big news on Wide Body Jet , Pogosyn promised at MAKS 2011 that he would make that announcement in 2013.

    I am a bit dissappointed with order book of SSJ 100 , it stands at 180 aircraft firm order if i am not wrong......They need to ramp up production else they would loose order to Bombardier or Embraer in that category even if SSJ 100 is a better aircraft.

    After Paris , do you have any number for orders for SSJ 100 and MS-21 ....i mean firm orders has any thing changed.

    My information is SSJ-100 ~ 180 and MS-21  ~ 135 aircraft
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:06 am

    Yes the Wide body jet is very interesting development. True breakthrough potential.

    None of the Paris orders are "new", as they are based on interest expressed years ago. Nonetheless it is good confirmation, since particularly for Superjet, some older orders have disappeared due to companies going out of business or merging. MS-21 is far away from entering service, and even Superjet doesn't really need new orders badly right now - they need to achieve good output with current orders and establish good reputation internationally.

    In other news Armavia, the Superjets pilot operator no longer operates any birds, due to financial problems. The first one has already been repainted in Moscavia colors.
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:08 am

    http://superjet.wikidot.com/sales

    Good website.

    Looks like the firm customers have 179 orders, with 55 more options.
    That does not include the other intents to buy, you can see those in the top chart.
    Looks like there are ~75 non firm orders in the latter category.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:10 am

    Is there any EU nation interested in the superjet after Italy cancelled its order?
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    Post  Austin Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:43 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Is there any EU nation interested in the superjet after Italy cancelled its order?

    Not yet and Italy order was not one because at that time Superjet was under going EASA certification and did not receive it.
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    Post  Austin Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:46 pm

    Russian Ministry of Defense, MOI and Rossiya special aircraft division may place an order for 100 MS-21 aircraft


    The state order for 100 MS-21 aircraft may be placed in future, but it’s too early to discuss the details», - Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade, Yuri Slusar, noted. «At present we are finalizing the first consolidated state order for 25 Tu-204SM aircraft. But these are stopgap measures – Tu-204 Family and Il-62 aircraft will be replaced by MS-21 jets», - he said. According to him, the demand for MS-21 aircraft may be defined only after three years of successful operation. Yuri Slusar also reminded that MS-21 will enter the market in 2017.

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